[Bollaroid II]

this is related to this forum, but is a digression that i concidered worthy of a fresh discussion:

http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=128447

unlike many who have said the CLI is dead i think it will always exist as long as computers (in current form factor or similar) exist.

after all, it is just another interface with which to communicate with the computer just like the GUI is - or the skin/eyes/ears ar to the body. this is what those people (mostly windows users) dont get.

now back to the title of my post, i think apple should put some effort towards integrating the GUI & CLI. here i am referring to functionality.

anything that can be done on one should be possible on the other. obviously, some will be better, more efficient and more practical on one vs. the other, but the power (capabilities/intelligence/sophistication) behind a system that has this capability is probably beyond our full appreciation until the actual product ships and hackers start doing what they are well known for.

an example is what one of the posters in the other thread said:

Hehehehee... DV Camera + Quicktime Broadcaster + Quicktime Streaming Server + this + 100B switched LAN= a riot.

My coworker who DJ's at a techno bar is already scheming how to work this into the video displays.... I don't think it will be light enough in there for source material. But throw in some funky recorded videos...." by C.J. Moof

the sheer geek factor potential behind a system wide implmentation of what can be done with this application is to me mind bogling as i am a CLI amateur.

obviously, in the immediate, apple should concentrate on more urgent issues that have to do with X, X Server, X-Serve, iApps, .mac, proApps, etc. , but i would not be disappointed (far from it) if in OS X Pegasus ver. 10.6 (2006), apple came out with such a feature. this would make "longhorn" look more like "calf"

what do y'all think.

[Vanquish]

[msuper69]

WTF?

[dudesteve]

The CLI is dead? heh. Oh, then I should have just switched to Windows after all. I stuck with the Mac largely because of the flexibility of a legitimate desktop OS coupled with a unix CLI and a decent (and hopefully improving...) GUI.

anything that can be done on one should be possible on the other

While I'm not sure I totally agree with this, I do agree that I'd like to see more control available through the CLI.

I think the place to do this is in AppleScript. That makes things extensible not only via the CLI (via osascript) but through the GUI, too.

[C.J. Moof]

Originally posted by Bollaroid II:


Hehehehee... DV Camera + Quicktime Broadcaster + Quicktime Streaming Server + this + 100B switched LAN= a riot.

My coworker who DJ's at a techno bar is already scheming how to work this into the video displays.... I don't think it will be light enough in there for source material. But throw in some funky recorded videos...." by C.J. Moof

the sheer geek factor potential behind a system wide implmentation of what can be done with this application is to me mind bogling as i am a CLI amateur.

Since that's me quoted, I feel an obligation to chime in. But I only have a vague guess at what you're after.

How would a "system wide implementation" of the ability to take a live video feed, pump it to another computer and convert the video into ASCII do any good? It's useless, except for the novelty factor for geeks and club dancers. My wife just rolled her eyes at me when I showed her, as she's neither of those.

In reality, there's no reason that demands a CLI... one could write an app that runs the video thru the ASCII converter and puts the text out in an app window instead. I've got one for stills, video is just a series of stills...

What's your point again? If it's the ability to make the CLI and GUI interchangeable, I'm all for it. Remote admin of mom's machine down a modem line is fine when I can do commands over SSH, but that can't click menus and buttons. Timbuktu is PAINFULLY slow then, much worse in X than 9. But if I wanted to show her how to tweak a mail.app rule, the CLI just won't cut it.

So... if we could render a VNC session into text in the terminal.... oh boy.