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imaxxedout · Mar 10, 2003, 02:21 PM

Jeez. Seems like every other topic is about replacing the video card. You should have known this when you bought it, iMacs (with the exception of the 1st generation iMac) are basically non-upgradable. The ONLY iMac that EVER had a third party video card was the 1st gen iMac, and it was an 8 meg voodoo2 called the gamewizard.

ANYWAY, if you have a DV, a flat panel, or whatever else comes next, no, you won't be able to get a new video card.

- Ca$h

Agent69 · Mar 10, 2003, 06:08 PM

Yup. Basically anything with a built-in monitor.

Dex13 · Mar 10, 2003, 10:18 PM

Lets hope people read this. For the people who actually ask this question are often new to the mac scene, and might glance over this sticky.

imaxxedout · Mar 14, 2003, 11:14 AM

BUMP!!!!

imaxxedout · Mar 14, 2003, 04:15 PM

bump

imaxxedout · Mar 18, 2003, 03:39 PM

bump

imaxxedout · Mar 19, 2003, 11:59 AM

BUMP!

Peder Rice · Mar 21, 2003, 02:05 AM

bump

imaxxedout · Mar 21, 2003, 02:15 PM

BUMP!

ryju · Mar 22, 2003, 11:27 AM

what does bump mean?

Dex13 · Mar 22, 2003, 01:15 PM

It "bumps" the post back to the top

D'Espice · Mar 23, 2003, 11:11 AM

WTF are you guys doing? You can't make it Sticky by bumping it. Ask a moderator to do that.

pliny · Mar 23, 2003, 11:21 AM

Yeah really. This ain't even sticky material.

imaxxedout · Mar 23, 2003, 03:52 PM

If the moderater were worth anythign they'd have made this a permanent sticky in here by now anyways, so I took matters into my own hands. It seems like we get 2-3 posts a week about this topic, so I'm going to continue to bump this back up to the top.

- Ca$h

vmarks · Mar 23, 2003, 05:57 PM

AHEM.
The moderator decided that this wasn't that worthy of a sticky. Why you ask?
Because rather than it tell the basic information and nothing more, you had to use unnecessary language, like "you're screwed"

Do it right, make it simple and plain, I'll make it a sticky. otherwise, bump to your precious little heart's content.

gumby5647 · Mar 23, 2003, 10:36 PM

Perhaps a iMac FAQ sticky that tells which model iMac's are which, what can and can't be upgraded in them, etc.

I'd be happy to write one up....

gumby5647 · Mar 23, 2003, 11:11 PM

iMac's at a glance

First Generation: (66MHz System Bus)

Revision A: 233MHz G3, 2MB ATi Rage IIc, 4GB Hard Drive, 32MB RAM. (Bondi Blue)

Revision B: 233MHz G3, 6MB ATi Rage Pro, 4GB Hard Drive, 32MB RAM. (Bondi Blue)

Revision C: 266MHz G3, 6MB ATi Rage Pro, 6GB Hard Drive, 32MB RAM. (Lime, Strawberry, Blueberry, Grape, Tangerine)

Revision D: 333MHz G3, 6MB ATi Rage Pro, 6GB Hard Drive, 32MB RAM. (Lime, Strawberry, Blueberry, Grape, Tangerine)

Second Generation
(100MHz System Bus, 2x AGP)
iMac: 350MHz G3, 8MB ATi Rage Pro 128, 6GB Hard Drive, 64MB RAM. (Blueberry)

iMac DV: 400MHz G3, 8MB ATi Rage Pro 128, 10GB Hard Drive, 64MB RAM. (Lime, Strawberry, Blueberry, Grape, Tangerine)

iMac DV SE: 400MHz G3, 8MB ATi Rage Pro 128, 13GB Hard Drive, 128MB RAM. (Graphite)

-----------------

There were SEVERAL different variations of the Second Generation iMac. CPU's ranging from 350MHz G3 750's to 700MHz G3 750cxe's. Optical drives of CD-ROM's, DVD-ROM's, and CD-RW. NO slot loading iMac ever shipped with a system fan OR combo drive.

UPGRADES!

First Generation

Revision A: Processor can be replaced, VRAM up'd to 6MB, RAM up to 512MB, and can accept the 8MB 3dfx Voodoo II Game Wizard via the Mezzanine slot on the bottom of the motherboard.

Revision B:Processor can be replaced, RAM up to 512MB, can accept the 8MB 3dfx Voodoo II Game Wizard via the Mezzanine slot on the bottom of the motherboard.

Revision C:Processor can be replaced, RAM up to 512MB.

Revision D:Processor can be replaced, RAM up to 512MB.

ALL first generation iMac's can have their RAM, CPU, Hard Drives and CD-ROM's upgraded. Only the Bondi Blue iMac's can take the VooDoo II Card.

Second Generation

ALL second generation iMac's can have their RAM, Hard Drives, and Optical Drives upgraded. CPU's are soldered to the motherboard and cannot be replaced or upgraded

ALL iMac's video chipsets are soldered to the motherboard and CAN NOT be replaced

D'Espice · Mar 24, 2003, 10:26 AM

Now that's a lot better.

imaxxedout · Mar 24, 2003, 11:20 AM

Bump!

PS: If I could edit my title I would.

Simon · Mar 24, 2003, 11:26 AM

Originally posted by imaxxedout:
Bump!

This is ridiculous.

You don't need to bump the thread a couple of minutes after somebody replied...

Unless of course its more about bumping your thread count than bumping the the thread itself...

imaxxedout69 · Mar 24, 2003, 01:40 PM

Bump

imaxxedout69 · Mar 25, 2003, 02:06 PM

bump

mikerally · Mar 25, 2003, 06:39 PM

iMac: 350MHz G3, 8MB ATi Rage Pro 128, 6GB Hard Drive, 64MB RAM. (Blueberry)

iMac DV: 400MHz G3, 8MB ATi Rage Pro 128, 10GB Hard Drive, 64MB RAM. (Lime, Strawberry, Blueberry, Grape, Tangerine)

iMac DV SE: 400MHz G3, 8MB ATi Rage Pro 128, 13GB Hard Drive, 128MB RAM. (Graphite)

You forgot to mention the last generation of G3 iMac (Flower Power, Blue Dalmation, Indigo, Snow, and Graphite) that sported a slightly more meaty 16MB ATI Rage Pro 128 Ultra.

As this is an iMac and eMac forum, you could go on to detail G4 iMac and eMac upgradability, particulary drawing attention to that you can pretty much put any 5.25inch IDE Optical Drive in these machines, including a DVD Writer. Infact Apple's entire desktop line is Superdrive upgradable (obviously not including the now discontinued G3 iMac which may be still available brand new in some places).

imaxxedout69 · Mar 26, 2003, 02:18 PM

Bump

Agent69 · Mar 27, 2003, 07:51 PM

Bump!

OwlBoy · Mar 27, 2003, 09:38 PM

Originally posted by mikerally:

As this is an iMac and eMac forum, you could go on to detail G4 iMac and eMac upgradability, particulary drawing attention to that you can pretty much put any 5.25inch IDE Optical Drive in these machines, including a DVD Writer. Infact Apple's entire desktop line is Superdrive upgradable (obviously not including the now discontinued G3 iMac which may be still available brand new in some places).

really how much are they?

-Owl

imaxxedout69 · Mar 30, 2003, 10:11 PM

Bump

Dex13 · Mar 31, 2003, 05:11 PM

Originally posted by OwlBoy:
really how much are they?

-Owl

http://www.wegenermedia.com/imaccd.htm

Kenneth · Mar 31, 2003, 07:47 PM

Originally posted by gumby5647:
iMac's at a glance

First Generation: (66MHz System Bus)

Revision D: 333MHz G3, 6MB ATi Rage Pro, 6GB Hard Drive, 32MB RAM. (Lime, Strawberry, Blueberry, Grape, Tangerine)

[ALL iMac's video chipsets are soldered to the motherboard and CAN NOT be replaced

Nice and neat! I used to have both Rev. A and Rev. D iMacs on my desk. Meanwhile, the Rev. D has a Rage Pro Turbo onboard video.

The "bump" thing is crazy and meaningless.

imaxxedout69 · Apr 1, 2003, 10:49 AM

I don't think it has a rage pro turbo, I had a rev d mobo and it's the same 6 meg Rage Pro as the others.

FYI, the bump thing does have meaning. Every week we get somebody coming in here and posting about trying to upgrade their iMac video card. This thread prevents that. But we can't keep it on top unless we bump it.... or an admin would make one.

Kenneth · Apr 1, 2003, 10:55 PM

After a search
ATI Rage Pro Turbo
http://www.ati.com/companyinfo/press/1998/4144.html

http://www.applebits.com/imacs.html
iMac Rev. A: Rage IIc
iMac Rev. B - D: Rage Pro Turbo

Meanwhile, you bump the thread quite often.

Agent69 · Apr 16, 2003, 08:46 AM

Bump!

beb · Apr 19, 2003, 02:17 AM

-Why would you want to? A new iMac isn't that expensive anyway. I know my FP 800 has only a 32mb card and the new ones have 64. But what I want is an iMac with a 970 processor...

-Guess I'll have a while to wait then hmm....

-Oh, and BUMP!

imaxxedout69 · Apr 23, 2003, 05:09 PM

Because there are all these noobs who buy an iMac (used or new), come to this forum, and say "Hey, I want better gaming, which card should I buy???"

Thats why this topic is here.

- Ca$h

vmarks · Apr 26, 2003, 01:44 PM

Originally posted by imaxxedout69:
I don't think it has a rage pro turbo, I had a rev d mobo and it's the same 6 meg Rage Pro as the others.

FYI, the bump thing does have meaning. Every week we get somebody coming in here and posting about trying to upgrade their iMac video card. This thread prevents that. But we can't keep it on top unless we bump it.... or an admin would make one.

I told you, I'll make it a sticky when you can write it in a G-rated post, acceptable for all audiences.

Agent69 · May 2, 2003, 09:10 AM

Originally posted by vmarks:
I told you, I'll make it a sticky when you can write it in a G-rated post, acceptable for all audiences.

I'll do it, if need be.

King Bob On The Cob · May 10, 2003, 09:31 PM

Could someone handy with sodering electronics switch video cards around?

Powaqqatsi · May 11, 2003, 08:34 AM

Originally posted by King Bob On The Cob:
Could someone handy with sodering electronics switch video cards around?

nope