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brainchild2b · Jun 23, 2003, 11:11 PM

What's your first thoughts? Somebody from WWDC has to have it installed by now. Please give us the lowdown. If you email me images or get me on AIM brainchild2b I'll host the images at my dedicated server in datacenter to post on this forum.

Thanks.

Gametes · Jun 24, 2003, 12:53 AM

Yes, those 2 screenshots of the xTools just aren't cutting it for me. If anybody would post some more...

moonmonkey · Jun 24, 2003, 05:05 AM

Originally posted by Gametes:
Yes, those 2 screenshots of the xTools just aren't cutting it for me. If anybody would post some more...

methinks some kind of consipiricy is afoot.

Perhaps Apple have promised a reward if the Demo is kept secret.
Normaly this place would be flooded with screenshots and reviews.

techtrucker · Jun 24, 2003, 09:16 AM

All the screen shots on apple.com are too small...somebody has to have it installed by now!

sandsl · Jun 24, 2003, 09:31 AM

Give it a few days...people have still got a way to go on they're downloads

, bit torrent is struggling and ...

...

Theres 1 big screenshot on the apple pr site if you haven't seen that yet.

gekko85 · Jun 24, 2003, 09:51 AM

Originally posted by sandsl:
bit torrent is struggling and ... ...

So I've noticed

It also looks like XCode is a seperate program. Isn't it going to ship with Panther?

lookmark · Jun 24, 2003, 10:02 AM

According to stevenf of Panic, the AirPort network at WWDC is having some traffic congestion issues.

Perhaps this is why the reports haven't starting pouring in yet.

brainchild2b · Jun 24, 2003, 10:33 AM

Yeah probably congested with all those people uploading Panther!

murk · Jun 24, 2003, 10:40 AM

The closed door demo of what they do to squealers and leakers, with Jobs and Schiller torturing a certain webmaster, has shut everyone up.

hamiltondj · Jun 24, 2003, 11:20 AM

Originally posted by gekko85:
So I've noticed

It also looks like XCode is a seperate program. Isn't it going to ship with Panther?

Xcode is a seperate program and there is a version for panther and jaguar. They will probably release the jaguar version on ADC soon.

Also, everyone at wwdc is under NDA. Also, there is a problem with the airport networks at wwdc. Hence, lack of news

In any event, I installed panther last night and it looked really good on my 12" PB. I haven't had time yet to play with stuff.

Xeo · Jun 24, 2003, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by hamiltondj:
Also, everyone at wwdc is under NDA. Also, there is a problem with the airport networks at wwdc. Hence, lack of news

How far does the NDA silence you? Steve showed us certain features so those must be free to share info about. What about other features that he *didn't* show us? Are you allowed to talk about them?

ambush · Jun 24, 2003, 01:52 PM

Originally posted by murk:
The closed door demo of what they do to squealers and leakers, with Jobs and Schiller torturing a certain webmaster, has shut everyone up.

It's all over BitTorrent.

Scifience · Jun 24, 2003, 02:56 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
It's all over BitTorrent.

Do you have any hints as to where on BitTorrent I could find this?

Send me an e-mail: [email protected]

Thanks!

[APi]TheMan · Jun 24, 2003, 03:12 PM

Originally posted by Scifience:
Do you have any hints as to where on BitTorrent I could find this?

Send me an e-mail: [email protected]

Thanks!

Hah, embark upon this search by yourself, man... This isn't the place to request that stuff.

Scifience · Jun 24, 2003, 03:20 PM

Originally posted by [APi]TheMan:
Hah, embark upon this search by yourself, man... This isn't the place to request that stuff.

Awww...not even a little hint?

besson3c · Jun 24, 2003, 03:30 PM

On CD #2 there is a package called "GimpPrintPrinterDrivers". Very cool.

hamiltondj · Jun 24, 2003, 03:52 PM

there's lots of little tweeks probably too many to list.

But here's the biggie - change the UI to many apps to an itunes/iphoto type (e.g. system profiler), add brushed metal everywhere, mute the stupid cordaroy lines and polish everything up and you got jaguar.

Oh yeah if your a unix person, you may be very very happy (don't know if it's NDA'd so I wont say but look in the utilities folder for a new app if you get a chance to play with panther)

[APi]TheMan · Jun 24, 2003, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by Scifience:
Awww...not even a little hint?

I'm a frayed knot. I mean, afraid not. (ehheeh, an old corny joke about a piece of string and a bar tender comes to mind.

)

kman42 · Jun 24, 2003, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by hamiltondj:
there's lots of little tweeks probably too many to list.

But here's the biggie - change the UI to many apps to an itunes/iphoto type (e.g. system profiler), add brushed metal everywhere, mute the stupid cordaroy lines and polish everything up and you got jaguar.

Oh yeah if your a unix person, you may be very very happy (don't know if it's NDA'd so I wont say but look in the utilities folder for a new app if you get a chance to play with panther)

Well, we know that X11 is in there. Since we can already use it under Jag, I will assume you are referring to something else. Any more hints?

kman

chris.p · Jun 24, 2003, 03:59 PM

quote:
But here's the biggie - change the UI to many apps to an itunes/iphoto type (e.g. system profiler), add brushed metal everywhere, mute the stupid cordaroy lines and polish everything up and you got jaguar.
------

Does this mean you can have system wide pinstripes(or aqua, or what ever its called) too? ie finder(please!) iphoto, itunes, etc?

kman42 · Jun 24, 2003, 04:02 PM

Originally posted by chris.p:
quote:
But here's the biggie - change the UI to many apps to an itunes/iphoto type (e.g. system profiler), add brushed metal everywhere, mute the stupid cordaroy lines and polish everything up and you got jaguar.
------

Does this mean you can have system wide pinstripes(or aqua, or what ever its called) too? ie finder(please!) iphoto, itunes, etc?

No, it means everything now has an iTunes like playlist list on the left and a search box on the top and everything is brushed metal.

kman

chris.p · Jun 24, 2003, 04:07 PM

heh- just came back to edit the post, but you got here first kman

just another question- can you ftp from the finder now? I see all those disks in the (new) finder view- could one of those be a remote hosting site? that would be cool. Or has ftp'ing using the OS (not the terminal!) beeen removed altogether?

lookmark · Jun 24, 2003, 04:07 PM

I've got a few questions, if you please.

- What's in System Preferences > Appearance?
- How does Expos� handle minimized windows?
- Can windows be navigated by keyboard after an Expos� is activated?
- Do the new Finder and iDisk work well?

Neo.cmg · Jun 24, 2003, 04:11 PM

Muahahahahaha....Bit Torrent RoX0rZ....

Neo.cmg

Scifience · 10:00 PM

Panther is snappy!

lookmark · Jun 24, 2003, 06:04 PM

So, any tidbits for those who don't have the space, time, or flagrant disregard of morality to install a developer seed?

Scifience · 10:01 PM

Not very buggy at all!

hamiltondj · Jun 24, 2003, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by kman42:
Well, we know that X11 is in there. Since we can already use it under Jag, I will assume you are referring to something else. Any more hints?

kman

look on the fink & opendarwin websites.

(man that may be way too obvious)

kman42 · Jun 24, 2003, 08:29 PM

Originally posted by hamiltondj:
look on the fink & opendarwin websites.

(man that may be way too obvious)

Have the three porting projects been combined? Is there an Apple supplied app for managing the packages?

kman

milenko11 · Jun 25, 2003, 12:33 AM

has anyone gotten automatic login for quick log in? i can't get it to not ask for the password everytime

hamiltondj · Jun 25, 2003, 01:29 AM

Originally posted by kman42:
Have the three porting projects been combined? Is there an Apple supplied app for managing the packages?

kman

cannot confirm or deny

OwlBoy · Jun 25, 2003, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by hamiltondj:
cannot confirm or deny

Ohhhh, here comes iFink!

-Owl

WJMoore · Jun 25, 2003, 09:02 AM

I assume this is what you are referring to? http://www.metapkg.org/

WM

Scifience · Jun 26, 2003, 09:15 AM

An XCode screenshot:

http://qwerty200344017.tripod.com/Picture_1.pdf

jguidroz · Jun 26, 2003, 09:24 AM

Word from WWDC is that about 4000 or so people were trying to get on the wireless network. It was a very good learning experience for Apple from what I understand.

Panther runs well for a DP, especially on my B&W G3/300, so I know it's really going to run extremely well on newer hardware.

Another note, Gentoo Linux has been mentioned in some of the sessions along the lines of being able to load just what you need for a server, something Apple was interested and looking in to.