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NetworkShadow · Nov 18, 2003, 12:52 AM

Originally posted by phillryu:
T-10 minutes until tomorrow. (EST)

EDIT: Oops i mean 11

So do we know for sure if it's really a midnight release?

Edit: yay I made the first post on page 3 (on my settings at least)

G0Ducks · Nov 18, 2003, 12:53 AM

Originally posted by phillryu:
Like BBX? I know a lot of people will probably check it out agian if he releases widgets with his theme. That's some nice advertisement there.

I really wanted to try confabulator. I saw all kinds of great fabbies out there. The thing that turned me off was that It seemed really hard to make my own. hrmf... all I wanted was...

R

phillryu · Nov 18, 2003, 12:55 AM

5 minutes

We do not know if it is a midnight release. In fact, I doubt it is. But hell, if they're ready, this would be when they'd drop it.

anti-sleep · Nov 18, 2003, 12:56 AM

Ohboyohboyohboyohboy

bbxstudio · Nov 18, 2003, 12:57 AM

Originally posted by arlorose:
People still seem *very* interested in it from where I stand. ;-)

Cheers,
Arlo Rose

Arlo! Arlo is a god guys - Konfabulator rocks hard!

phillryu · Nov 18, 2003, 12:58 AM

2 minutes left. If nothing happens, this is the biggest disappointment since Y2K

EDIT: BBX is up, that says something.

Link Check

www.swizcore.com check
www.unsanity.com check
homepage.mac.com/max_08 check
www.unsanity.org check
www.bbxstudio.com check

Edit: It is now Tomorrow.

gorickey · Nov 18, 2003, 01:00 AM

Nothin....

anti-sleep · Nov 18, 2003, 01:01 AM

Ouch.

gorickey · Nov 18, 2003, 01:02 AM

Originally posted by anti-sleep:
Ouch.

Yeah, I just took a big ass punt to the testicles on this one....

phillryu · Nov 18, 2003, 01:03 AM

anti-sleep · Nov 18, 2003, 01:04 AM

Well, I guess it was kinda our fault seeing as how we just assumed it would be at midnight.

Scroot · Nov 18, 2003, 01:04 AM

Well, back to working on my paper I guess...

phillryu · Nov 18, 2003, 01:06 AM

Same.. and wish Smeger some speed on finishing the documentation.

I realize now I haven't gotten more than two paragraphs done in the last 6 hours.

NetworkShadow · Nov 18, 2003, 01:06 AM

I'm sure unsanity's going to be getting a lot more traffic starting now and for the rest of the 18th. There's always the next 6-8 hours that it could be uploaded if not rightaway.

d4nth3m4n · Nov 18, 2003, 01:06 AM

Originally posted by anti-sleep:
Well, I guess it was kinda our fault seeing as how we just assumed it would be at midnight.

but it woulda been hella cool, especially since bbx is lurking this forum...

fireside · Nov 18, 2003, 01:07 AM

Sage · Nov 18, 2003, 01:10 AM

Heh, at least I'm not the only one who put off schoolwork for this!

Anyway, I guess I'll just do my homework here and refresh the page every once in a while...

(Is nobody willing to at least hint at when it's coming out?)

Rosyna · Nov 18, 2003, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by d4nth3m4n:
but it woulda been hella cool, especially since bbx is lurking this forum...

Even so... if everyone that "matters" is in Mountain Standard Time, then it's not yet midnight. But the simpsons are on.

gorickey · Nov 18, 2003, 01:12 AM

Originally posted by Sage:
(Is nobody willing to at least hint at when it's coming out?)

I thought the "11-18-03" hint was pretty good myself...

phillryu · Nov 18, 2003, 01:14 AM

Ahh everyone! NEW ETA: 2 hours 45 minutes!!!

Actually I guess an hour and 45 minutes?

NetworkShadow · Nov 18, 2003, 01:14 AM

You guys are worse than Apple... Apple doesn't even say anything new is going to be for download until the keynote, (everyone knows when the keynote is too) then it's up for download as soon as the keynote is done. Everyone will go nuts before it's out.

TheIceMan · Nov 18, 2003, 01:15 AM

Wow, for theme enthusiast, this is similar to MacWorld excitement!

[EDIT:] Actually, this completely SUCKS because I sold my PowerBook 2 weeks ago! I'm posting this on my Dell desktop!

gorickey · Nov 18, 2003, 01:17 AM

Originally posted by TheIceMan:
Wow, for theme enthusiast, this is similar to MacWorld excitement!

Sorry, but nothing on earth beats:

"Oh yeah, more more thing..."

phillryu · Nov 18, 2003, 01:19 AM

God damnit, I've had enough of this bbxing!

bbxing:

To hype to epic proportions

quandarry · Nov 18, 2003, 01:21 AM

bwahahahaaaaaaaaa....

Sage · Nov 18, 2003, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by gorickey:
I thought the "11-18-03" hint was pretty good myself...

Oh, bah!

phillryu · Nov 18, 2003, 01:25 AM

Ok, I got some confirmation that this won't be done for a while, but should be by the time I wake up for school. That said, good night folks.

NetworkShadow · Nov 18, 2003, 01:27 AM

Originally posted by phillryu:
God damnit, I've had enough of this bbxing!

bbxing:

To hype to epic proportions

Ya that's why they got him to do the AD poster thing.

themexican · Nov 18, 2003, 01:37 AM

Anybody want to speculate?

A user friendly theme changer? (what we have now w/ better interface)

A full blown theme editor?

or

(the thing I've been waiting for)

A Kaleidoscope class API that allows you control over the shape and size of all GUI elements?

themexican · Nov 18, 2003, 01:39 AM

Hey, sad, I just re-activated my account after about 2 years of silence and my post count got erased.

Sage · Nov 18, 2003, 01:43 AM

Originally posted by themexican:
[...]
or

(the thing I've been waiting for)

A Kaleidoscope class API that allows you control over the shape and size of all GUI elements?

I'm hoping it's that, and judging by the nature of what unsanity does, that would seem logical (in addition to what swiz said about Monolith's "holy grail of themeing" being a death kiss).

I wouldn't be disappointed though with the other two options.

Dace · Nov 18, 2003, 02:01 AM

Originally posted by phillryu:

bbxing:

To hype to epic proportions...and then not deliver or meet expectations

d4nth3m4n · 02:36 AM

no release for central time. oh well.

EDIT: got a talkin' to from above. going to bed. pac�

Dan.

SomeToast · Nov 18, 2003, 02:12 AM

Originally posted by mrbiiggy2:
Last time an app was hyped this much was Konfabulator... Actually, Konfabulator was hyped more. And now look at the interest in that app

True, I only use Konfabulator every day and have written widgets that perform literally invaluable tasks for me. So I guess that's a good thing then.

OwlBoy · Nov 18, 2003, 02:41 AM

Oh man, I went to bed and have now gotten back up...

hmmm.

-Owl

Hi I'm Mike · Nov 18, 2003, 02:43 AM

I think it is going to be a haxie that changes the font colors in the system so that I can have all white in Dark Glass and BBX can have a white font in his theme. Might be something else too. But so far that is my guess.

OwlBoy · Nov 18, 2003, 02:47 AM

Originally posted by Hi I'm Mike:
I think it is going to be a haxie that changes the font colors in the system so that I can have all white in Dark Glass and BBX can have a white font in his theme. Might be something else too. But so far that is my guess.

I was thinking about that. It would have to AT LEAST do that if BBX Omega is involved.

That was always the drawback to dark themes.

-Owl

slava · Nov 18, 2003, 03:07 AM

Alrighty guys, we didn't mean you to get that much excited and frustrated! =) As for release time, it'll probably be about 8 to 10 hours from now (it'll be still 11-18-03 in USA, right? =). So if you have to, get a bit of sleep. And we'll be ready by the time you wake up, hopefully. =)

NetworkShadow · Nov 18, 2003, 03:10 AM

Well I'm going to bed, I guess I'll be checking at about 7am next. I hope it's as good as we've hyped it to be. lol All the clues do seem to point to something huge though as themeing goes.

slava I do hope it's worth being excited about though. Expect a registration right-away if it is as good as the poster makes it look.

G0Ducks · Nov 18, 2003, 03:15 AM

Originally posted by slava:
Alrighty guys, we didn't mean you to get that much excited and frustrated! =) As for release time, it'll probably be about 8 to 10 hours from now (it'll be still 11-18-03 in USA, right? =). So if you have to, get a bit of sleep. And we'll be ready by the time you wake up, hopefully. =)

Oh, thank you sooOo much! I get to sleap

!

slava · Nov 18, 2003, 03:18 AM

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
Well I'm going to bed, I guess I'll be checking at about 7am next. I hope it's as good as we've hyped it to be. lol All the clues do seem to point to something huge though as themeing goes.

Well, while the upcoming thing is great as-is, do not expect it to walk your dog or make your toasts in the morning. Not for the first release, anyway. =)

We usually release a reasonably feature-packed 1.0 then continue improving it agressively over time. This way, we see what people want more, and can focus on features that our users want, not the ones we think would be cool. But again, I am excited to be a part of this project as it is somewhat the result of a few years of mucking up with the system and making random APEs.

All in all, it'll be out fairly soon. THEN you'll talk and we'll listen. =)

Kujo · Nov 18, 2003, 03:23 AM

how much will it cost?

mac15 · Nov 18, 2003, 03:32 AM

I'm busting to find out and the suck thing is I won't be here for a day or 2, so I completely miss out on everything

bOOzo · Nov 18, 2003, 05:58 AM

Originally posted by rhythmicmoose:
Time time time!

Please say midnight EST.

Around noon EST

milhouse · Nov 18, 2003, 06:19 AM

<tweak>

aahHH!

WhereIsIt!

</tweak>

leeeo · Nov 18, 2003, 07:42 AM

At least if it's from Unsanity with all these theme developers as backup, you can be sure it has something to do with a theme control in your preference panel!

darrick · Nov 18, 2003, 07:57 AM

more (leaked?) info at resex

http://www.resexcellence.com/

"Drum roll for Shape Shifter... We'll know today for sure so keep an eye out for (possible simultaneous) announcements from Swizcore Studios, Unsanity, Max Rudberg and William Bart! I received this image (which has been posted elsewhere) late Sunday night. From what I've heard this app may be much like Kaleidoscope was for Classic Mac OS. Expecations are it will use a it's [sic] own format for Theme files, have greater stability and allow each user on any one system to have a different Theme installed.

I think we'll also see the long awaited BBX Omega Theme released at the same time as Shape Shifter and with any luck some other new Themes too."

mrtew · Nov 18, 2003, 08:04 AM

Originally posted by themexican:
Hey, sad, I just re-activated my account after about 2 years of silence and my post count got erased.

Dude, WHERE have you been! I thought you got a peesee or something!

benign · Nov 18, 2003, 08:28 AM

Oooooh, you can just feel the buzz !

Everyone's oohed, lets hope it ends in aahed.

TheDisaster · Nov 18, 2003, 08:38 AM

I'm thinking back to BBX mentioning something like "It won't be a problem anymore" when somebody asked about dark themes having readable titlebars...