[jarling]

I've waived the red flag over at the Overclockers Club forum. Lets see if they charge.

[Dignan_OCC]

Greatings from the real computer users side of the hill. I see that jarling here has crossed into our forums (Overclockers Club) to post a little taunt. Though I realize that you think that you may "almost have us in the bag" and I am only left with the need to congratulate you on the finding something besides I-DVD, I-Movie, and I-pods to use on your mac.(joke) Also, remember that not too long ago, we passed you. We are toying with you at this point...

A friendly reminder to not count us out yet
Dignan



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[reader50]

(begins taking notes)
this should be interesting.

[jarling]

They are starting to ramp up over there, or at least their rhetoric is. Lets see what happens.

[Turias]

Our notification over there has reached a whopping 8 pages! They're talking big, but I don't think they can postpone the inevitable for much longer...

[Dignan_OCC]

It's 10 pages now...

Give it time, if the "inevitable" does happen we will be right back on the top of things soon after....

Oh yah, I didn't thank you for the motivational speech jarling.


Turias, I missed your post on there didn't realise you had crossed over too. I didn't know red was going to start folding for us until after, I now officially withdraw my right to the powerhouse comment. As for our two teams, I am personally labeling you are arch nemisis. (mac vs PC) It was destined. So like you said "bring it"

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[jarling]

One of their members, a school district network administrator, claims to be adding over 3000 computers. This should get fun!

[Shaktai]

Hmmmm! (thinking, thinking, thinking). :

[OneMacGuy]

Originally posted by jarling:
One of their members, a school district network administrator, claims to be adding over 3000 computers. This should get fun!

Talks cheap. If you read his posts, he claims to "personally" over 150 computers imcluding several quad xeon boxes. Anybody here got a quad xeon in their home farm?

They also are a pretty low rent bunch overall. These guys will go into stores and install the client on any machine that is left open. One of them bragged about co-opting several Gateways at their Gateway store.

It is fun to watch their reactions, from good natured to nasty. If they have as much sleeping power as they claim, they will quickly move into the top of the rankings overall.

[Dignan_OCC]

As far as red owning all of those comps, I do not know for sure. If you care to read more carefully he builds high end server systems and does maintenence on them as a job. (possible reason?)

Anyway I am personally not a fan of someone installing folding on computers without knowlege.

From me to the "person in question" and other feel the same.

http://forums.overclockersclub.com/?showtopic=15925&hl=

"Invader, I know you have good intentions, but I am not sure about your method of installing folding on comps without permission. Besides the fact that by doing so our team could come into jepordy or be harassed because not just your name, but our team is listed as who you fold for. Those are also people trying to make a sale on computers and simple things like burning CD's I have found are slowed when folding along with other little things like that (the possible difference between making a sale or not). I don't have the right to say that you can't do it, nor would I want to, its not my place. All I can do is suggest that you look for schools or other more legitimate ways of gathering points."

I do really like you calling us a "low rent" bunch comment, very kind.

[Paranoid600]

Quote bigred, December 30, 11:18am:

"hey, the mac isn't so bad! it's got handles on it so it's easier to chuck out the door, tie up for a boat anchor, carry in for repairs, or place it in the dumpster. I say this as my G4 (don't ask it was cheap and I needed one for learning) looks back with big sad puppy dog eyes and begs not to be beaten again."

http://forums.overclockersclub.com/?...ic=16210&st=70

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[reader50]

Originally posted by Dignan_OCC:
...
Anyway I am personally not a fan of someone installing folding on computers without knowlege.

From me to the "person in question" and other feel the same.

http://forums.overclockersclub.com/?showtopic=15925&hl=
...

Link doesn't work.

Originally posted by the OCC board:
Sorry, an error occurred. If you are unsure on how to use a feature, or don't know why you got this error message, try looking through the help files for more information.

The error returned was:

You do not have permission to view this topic.

[Paranoid600]

The link works, you just have to be a member of the Overclockers Club Folding team to view that forum.

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[Turias]

Originally posted by OneMacGuy:
They also are a pretty low rent bunch overall. These guys will go into stores and install the client on any machine that is left open. One of them bragged about co-opting several Gateways at their Gateway store.

That's a little mean. Many of them seem to be quite nice. A few of them, however, do seem to be a little low rent.

But don't generalize... too much

[Paranoid600]

bigred is adding over 3700 PC's to the Overclockers Club Folding team, as of Monday January 5th.

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[Scotttheking]

I'm curious if this guy actually has permission.
There's a difference between being the head admin and being able to prevent anyone from catching you and actually having permission. For that massive of a reallocation of resources, I'd expect the school board or at least the superintendent to give permission.
I get the impression that permission was not granted.

[Paranoid600]

Your just trying to rationalize it. Give up, you will never catch up with us as long as we have bigred

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[OneMacGuy]

Originally posted by Paranoid600:
Your just trying to rationalize it. Give up, you will never catch up with us as long as we have bigred

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When he loses his job for abusing his position, the rest of you losers will have to do something then. More trips to the Gateway store? Try sneaking the client into CompUSA and BestBuy?

Why not try adding members, buying farm machines on your own, getting permission at work to use unused CPU cycles for a good cause? Outside of the fact that it helps your team, this is a great cause to work for.....

[Dignan_OCC]

Once again I would like to restate the fact that we have one person doing the "hi-jacking" and I have to date 22 personal messages to date agreeing with me against his tactics (plenty more do I'm sure but 22 that cared enough to let me know). Though i have labeled you our arch nemisis, this is starting to get low. It seems like the major goal (curing diseases) is being a little shoved in the wayside to name calling in the name of points on a few stats sites.

I am a 19 year old kid that personally hosts a farm that will soon cap 3K/week possibly more in the next month, and for the most part others are doing there best too. We have had out fair share of name calling but from how I read it, we are taking you using macs as more of a joke then as a real downer on you guys...

And as you stated right after the calling us "losers" part is that this is for a good cause and it seems like we both are a little far from the main goal here.

I would like to say that I never meant anything as an insult and really would like to say congrats on the 70K+/week and keep it up. (Just as long as we can keep a little ahead of that :-P )

[tazwegion]

They also are a pretty low rent bunch overall. These guys will go into stores and install the client on any machine that is left open. One of them bragged about co-opting several Gateways at their Gateway store.

Hmmm well speaking obviously, as one of these 'low rent bunch' what happened to your sense of humour... did you ever have one? C'mon 'sarcasm' is an excellent form of expression.


Turias you never answered the question... 4 machines you claim fold for you... one an apple dare not you say what the others are? maybe PC's?

Bring on your sarcasm @ least if not your score...

I mean your + 3(whatevers) to my 3 PC's and I'm still personally flogging your score/WU average... and I'm using prehistoric (retro-flavour) PC equipment.

Gotta' be saying something... LOL

[OneMacGuy]

Originally posted by tazwegion:
Hmmm well speaking obviously, as one of these 'low rent bunch' what happened to your sense of humour... did you ever have one? C'mon 'sarcasm' is an excellent form of expression.


Turias you never answered the question... 4 machines you claim fold for you... one an apple dare not you say what the others are? maybe PC's?

Bring on your sarcasm @ least if not your score...

I mean your + 3(whatevers) to my 3 PC's and I'm still personally flogging your score/WU average... and I'm using prehistoric (retro-flavour) PC equipment.

Gotta' be saying something... LOL

Sarcasm is an excellent form of expression, I use it a lot. It is the outright stealing of other people's computers energy and the mean spirit exhibited by your forum's general membership that got me a little upset. I love a good roasting, as long as it remains good natured and does not get dirty!

To show my good will, I registered on your forums and posted a setup guide for your newbie folders to setup and monitor their clients. It was hastily written from the way that I run my farm, but it should be quite accurate in the setup procedures.

I hope my own team does not lynch me for helping you guys out. I did preface the instructions with something along the lines of "I hate to see all of your "PC Experts" floundering, so I provided a little Windoze setup help from a Mac Geek.

[andrusk_occ]

Originally posted by OneMacGuy:
Talks cheap. If you read his posts, he claims to "personally" over 150 computers imcluding several quad xeon boxes. Anybody here got a quad xeon in their home farm?

They also are a pretty low rent bunch overall. These guys will go into stores and install the client on any machine that is left open. One of them bragged about co-opting several Gateways at their Gateway store.

It is fun to watch their reactions, from good natured to nasty. If they have as much sleeping power as they claim, they will quickly move into the top of the rankings overall.

You dont even know us, let alone probably read enough posts of ours to be allowed to call us "low rent" especially the bunch "overall"! What, did you think nobody from occ would read your post, or could never get around to it? And for your information, it is only a select few that chose to steal other peoples computer cycles without their permission.

And as for the other comments about us all running out to gateway if bigreds comps dont come on. Why would we run out to gateway country? We're already holding you at bay and bigred has only turned in 2 wu's. Its not like hes really helping us at all at this moment.

But i do agree with most about the validity of some of his statements. Nobody in their right mind would own, let alone have any use for as much equipment as bigred "claims" to own. So i guess we will have to see.

But until then, we would all appreciate it if you would keep the unnecesary name calling to a minimum. Especially when it comes to making judgements about our character.




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[tazwegion]

Oh okay consider yourself officially lynched then!


Mainly because firedaemon is only supported by NT based OS's... some of us actually prefer Win98SE

And the 'link' is only good for machines continually open to the net... once again not everyone has their private network continually connected (I prefer not to personally)


So bring on some of that sarcasm then!

[Scotttheking]

Mmm, firedaemon. Was running a virus scan today, and mcafee reported firedaemon as a potentially unwanted program.

And don't tell the OCC people, but I've got 2 systems down right now. I'll let them think they can keep up with us, then, *BAM*.

[OneMacGuy]

Originally posted by andrusk_occ:
You dont even know us, let alone probably read enough posts of ours to be allowed to call us "low rent" especially the bunch "overall"! What, did you think nobody from occ would read your post, or could never get around to it? And for your information, it is only a select few that chose to steal other peoples computer cycles without their permission.

And as for the other comments about us all running out to gateway if bigreds comps dont come on. Why would we run out to gateway country? We're already holding you at bay and bigred has only turned in 2 wu's. Its not like hes really helping us at all at this moment.

But i do agree with most about the validity of some of his statements. Nobody in their right mind would own, let alone have any use for as much equipment as bigred "claims" to own. So i guess we will have to see.

But until then, we would all appreciate it if you would keep the unnecesary name calling to a minimum. Especially when it comes to making judgements about our character.




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You are right of course and I have since apologized. It is easy to judge the many by the few loudmouths that are heard above the rest. This has been a refreshing change of pace from the normal dead forums that we have here! We have great, but most untalkative members, for the most part, not to generalize of course!

[Scotttheking]

Some people from OCC posted in their thread saying "what can you do" if people admit to borging machines they don't have permission.
This is my policy. If you announce it, you'll be banned from posting in the team forum, and I will email the project head and ask that the stats for that person be removed from our team. It is not acceptable, and totally immature.

[reader50]

I don't have a 'policy' on borging systems without permission, but it is illegal. People have lost their jobs and been fined for it - I have not heard of anyone going to jail yet.

By doing it for a team, that team is exposed to legal jeopardy. All it might take is one pissed member on another team to email (for example) Gateway pointing out how a team's borging efforts make their demo machines seem slower, thereby cutting sales. If the computer company got pissed enough to send legal notices to the project people, it could get an entire team deleted.

So I don't have a policy (no one's done it here that I recall), but if it happened, I'd have to do whatever I could to stop it, in order to protect Team MacNN from legal attack. I'd probably have to do much what Scott said, just to keep us out of potential hot water.

[OneMacGuy]

Originally posted by reader50:
I don't have a 'policy' on borging systems without permission, but it is illegal. People have lost their jobs and been fined for it - I have not heard of anyone going to jail yet.

By doing it for a team, that team is exposed to legal jeopardy. All it might take is one pissed member on another team to email (for example) Gateway pointing out how a team's borging efforts make their demo machines seem slower, thereby cutting sales. If the computer company got pissed enough to send legal notices to the project people, it could get an entire team deleted.

So I don't have a policy (no one's done it here that I recall), but if it happened, I'd have to do whatever I could to stop it, in order to protect Team MacNN from legal attack. I'd probably have to do much what Scott said, just to keep us out of potential hot water.

These are the type of answers that a responsible team should have. By doing nothing, Team OCC is condoning the practice by inaction in the face of admission by their own team members. Maybe we should have an official team policy on this subject.

I can't imagine that this would be a problem for our team.

[andrusk_occ]

Originally posted by OneMacGuy:
These are the type of answers that a responsible team should have. By doing nothing, Team OCC is condoning the practice by inaction in the face of admission by their own team members. Maybe we should have an official team policy on this subject.

I can't imagine that this would be a problem for our team.

If you have a problem with the way that our team is run or managed i suggest you email the moderator of the forums and work it out with him. Posting that team occ is condoning this kind of practice is beyond your judgement. Thats up to the admin to decide.

Better yet, maybe you should make an "offical team policy" for your team, im sure youd lose quite a few computers from your "collective" and it would only help us win even more.






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[tazwegion]

Originally posted by OneMacGuy:

You are right of course and I have since apologized. It is easy to judge the many by the few loudmouths that are heard above the rest. This has been a refreshing change of pace from the normal dead forums that we have here! We have great, but most untalkative members, for the most part, not to generalize of course!

You want some spice eh? how about Retro Flavour?

As far as "what can one do?" we've already voiced our objections since it's inception (despite it being humourous @ the onset).

Originally posted by OneMacGuy:

I can't imagine that this would be a problem for our team.

As Andrusk stated you'd most likely be suprised by the number of people @ work with the client installed, without their bosses direct approval/knowledge.


Lastly... we've upped our daily ouput to 10K+... so your advance has been delayed thus far... and our member with the 'web hosting' systems has only added 2 WU's to our score... stay tuned, more action to follow.

the MAC

[OneMacGuy]

Originally posted by andrusk_occ:
If you have a problem with the way that our team is run or managed i suggest you email the moderator of the forums and work it out with him. Posting that team occ is condoning this kind of practice is beyond your judgement. Thats up to the admin to decide.

Better yet, maybe you should make an "offical team policy" for your team, im sure youd lose quite a few computers from your "collective" and it would only help us win even more.


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And what is different about you saying "im sure youd lose quite a few computers from your "collective""? I guess it is all right for you to make judgement calls but not me? Right! Now I understand....

BTW, "borging" or "co-opting" computers is illegal, for you, us or anyone. No team should be put in a position to defend itself legally because of someone not knowing this, or even knowing and not caring.

[reader50]

Whoa folks, calm down. More fun, less accusations please.

We're not here to pass judgement on other teams, just to beat them.

- pass the popcorn, the next week should be interesting.

[mazakman OCC]

reader50 I admire your way of thinking, good luck to both teams!
After all, it's supposed to be for a good cause.
Oh and OneMacGuy, you sound like McArthy, get a life will you!

[Scotttheking]

I should get a little push in about a week.

[tazwegion]

Originally posted by Scotttheking

I should get a little push in about a week.

You really should try and keep more regular than that... have you tried licorice?

[Scotttheking]

Originally posted by tazwegion:
You really should try and keep more regular than that... have you tried licorice?

I like to make a big splash

[tazwegion]

Originally posted by Scotttheking:
I like to make a big splash

Ah... yes but then you get your cheeks wet!

[Scotttheking]

Does the link not work now?

[reader50]

It appears that someone on the OCC board deleted the contact thread. No lock, no explanation, it's just gone.

Probably it was getting too personal, but they deleted my valuable post at the same time.

To our OCC guests, feel free to discuss things here. Keep it civil and nothing will happen to the thread.

Edit: I've managed to dig the entire thread out of browser cache, but it's rather unweildy at 29 page files.

[Agallion_OCC]

Hello this is Agallion from OCC and i would like to comment that none of us know why that thread was removed ,it could be possible that the length was getting to long, that or the mild flame war (within occ) caused topic deletion

[DevilMB3017]

First of all, I'm from OCC. I have over 2600 posts, if posts show any form of intelligence, even thou I know they truthfuly don't. I'd like to call my self a respected member of OCC, and a member of the family enviroment we have there.

You cannot take the actions of one over-competivie member who installs Folding at...substandard...localtions as a sign of all of OCC being "low-rent". I can say that without a doubt, we, being OCC, have a much higher level of respect due to the fact that we stick to our forums. We have no need to go loud mouthing around.

But, like with politics (bleed sucking leechs in latin), the higher you go, the more people you see wanting to bring you down. We're ranked decently high and plan on moving even higher. We'll admit, however, that the top is virutally unreachable to us, and we're content at slowly moving up the ranks, or even staying steady, because its for CHARITY.

If you take notice on our site, there was a large contest for Folding members. If you also notice, our WU's haven't gone down. We're dedicated to helping people, not petty competitons with other forums.

Best of wishes to ManNN and all their "high-rent" standards,

~Devil

[d3bruts1d]

Hello Team MacNN...
<br>Wanted to apologize to for deleting the thread over on our <A HREF="http://forums.overclockersclub.com">forums</A>, however, it was easier to delete than to &ldquo;filter&rdquo;. IMO, the message was originally intended as nothing more than a nudge and some friendly competition, which was more than welcomed, however for whatever reason it turned into something that was uncalled for and unwanted. The mere presence of the thread (well, many of the replies, not the thread itself) looked bad not only on <A HREF="http://www.overclockersclub.com">OverclockersClub</A>, but those who participated in it.
<br>I also wanted to remind those OCC members who are posting here that by using the folding images, OCC logos, or the OCC name you are representing <A HREF="http://www.overclockersclub.com">OverclockersClub</A>. This means that your actions here in this forum (and elsewhere) reflect (good or bad) on <A HREF="http://www.overclockersclub.com">OverclockersClub</A> and its other members. While we can&rsquo;t enforce our rules while on other forums, your actions here while representing OCC will be dealt with just the same. In short, don&rsquo;t go somewhere else representing OCC and start fighting, flaming, bashing, etc. I expect you all to follow any and all of the rules of the MacNN forums.
<br>
That aside...
<A HREF="http://www.overclockersclub.com">OverclockersClub.com</A> has no official &ldquo;policy&rdquo; on borging of systems. AFAIK neither Stanford or the Pande Group have &ldquo;a policy&rdquo; about borging either. I know that the <A HREF="http://setiathome.ssl.berkeley.edu/">SETI@Home</A> project had a disclaimer, but that was about it. Of course, each person is expected to follow the rules set forth by their employer, which may deal with acceptable use of computers.
<br>There have been times in the past where I&rsquo;ve read about people being fired and even sued for using work computers for stuff like F@H, S@H, and the many other distributed computing projects. &ndash; This though is totally the fault of the person responsible (maybe in some cases, the team for encouraging it).
<br>As far as what our members have folding, to be honest I have no clue. I know BigRed claims to have a lot of systems, and from speaking to his fianc&eacute;e (well, now wife) I have no reason to doubt him. He&rsquo;s given me no reason to not believe him, even as far fetched as it my sound. Though in the past I have learned &ldquo;don&rsquo;t believe 1/2 the stuff you read on the Internet, and the other 1/2 is probably BS too.&rdquo;
<br>Well that wraps up my little rant. Good luck with the folding MacNN.

Regards,
Bryan K. McDaniel aka "d3bruts1d"
Senior Editor | Moderator
<A HREF="http://www.overclockersclub.com">OverclockersClub.com</A>

[OneMacGuy]

Originally posted by DevilMB3017:
First of all, I'm from OCC. I have over 2600 posts, if posts show any form of intelligence, even thou I know they truthfuly don't. I'd like to call my self a respected member of OCC, and a member of the family enviroment we have there.

We'll admit, however, that the top is virutally unreachable to us, and we're content at slowly moving up the ranks, or even staying steady, because its for CHARITY.

If you take notice on our site, there was a large contest for Folding members. If you also notice, our WU's haven't gone down. We're dedicated to helping people, not petty competitons with other forums.

Best of wishes to ManNN and all their "high-rent" standards,

~Devil

An almost noble sentiment, except for the jibe about petty competitions with other forums. But if it were only just for charity, no competition involved, why have a stats page at all? Why would you "borg" systems for charity? Those "petty competitions" are probably the main reason that most people do this, sure it is nice that it is for a good cause, but we buy folding farms to compete.

Most competition is certainly within your own team, but there is a significant amount of inter-team competition as well. It is healthy, arouses interest and is good for the overall projects, until we start "silently condoning" actions such as "borging computers" from retail stores by ignoring whole threads where members brag about it. This gives the whole DC community a bad name, look what a few cheaters did for SETI, they lost a ton of credibility over it.

This certainly started out as a friendly nudge, I am probably the party most guilty for starting the downhill slide. For that, I apologize. I am a very competitive person and love to engage in a little good natured ribbing. My comment about you guys being a "pretty low rent bunch" was inappropriate, I will try to avoid generalities in the future.

But listen, if it is all just for charity and the competition means nothing to most of you, the rest of you who do enjoy competition, come on over and join up with Team MacNN! We do love passing those teams who still think that Macs are slow!

[mazakman OCC]

To OneMacGuy.
I'm truly sorry to have compared you to McArthy and have asked you to get a life.
I personaly fold for the spirit of helping and not with the intention to compete with anyone, I'll leave that to the younger generation. I've had my fair share of fights, and will let the younger roosters battle for the hens in the hen house now.(I'm only a few years younger than you, date of birth 1960/09/24 yyyy/mm/dd)
I hope you accept my most humble of apologies, and may the best team win, whichever it may be, but lets not fight over it.
Regards, Alex (aka mazakman)

[DevilMB3017]

I see what you mean, and how misleading my comments were. I meant to say that the majority of OCC is about helping people, and the competition is a bonus for most people (as Mazakman can agree too).
I also believe that aside from a select few on OCC, we are a very young group with very little resources outside our own personal computers. I only have one computer folding at the moment, and thats my person computer. Sure its fun to compete, but I'd rather finish dead last in the competition if I still helped someone.

~Devil

Originally posted by OneMacGuy:
An almost noble sentiment, except for the jibe about petty competitions with other forums. But if it were only just for charity, no competition involved, why have a stats page at all? Why would you "borg" systems for charity? Those "petty competitions" are probably the main reason that most people do this, sure it is nice that it is for a good cause, but we buy folding farms to compete.

Most competition is certainly within your own team, but there is a significant amount of inter-team competition as well. It is healthy, arouses interest and is good for the overall projects, until we start "silently condoning" actions such as "borging computers" from retail stores by ignoring whole threads where members brag about it. This gives the whole DC community a bad name, look what a few cheaters did for SETI, they lost a ton of credibility over it.

This certainly started out as a friendly nudge, I am probably the party most guilty for starting the downhill slide. For that, I apologize. I am a very competitive person and love to engage in a little good natured ribbing. My comment about you guys being a "pretty low rent bunch" was inappropriate, I will try to avoid generalities in the future.

But listen, if it is all just for charity and the competition means nothing to most of you, the rest of you who do enjoy competition, come on over and join up with Team MacNN! We do love passing those teams who still think that Macs are slow!

[jarling]

One of the benefits I see of this cross-forum exchange is figuring out how other groups operate. We learned a little something about some of the members of OCC. However, what I'm interested in in your group is that competition you had a while back. It seems like a great recruiting tool. Did it work? How did you score it? And how did you get the funds for the award? It might just be an idea we could steal from you all.

[OneMacGuy]

Originally posted by DevilMB3017:
Sure its fun to compete, but I'd rather finish dead last in the competition if I still helped someone.

~Devil

That is the absolute BEST attitude I have ever read on this subject. Competition is great, it keeps us interested in doing more, but the bottom line is the potential for helping everyone.

[DevilMB3017]

Thank you very much OneMacGuy, thats basically how OCC works. We all help someone, and once they get helped with their issue, they get sucked in and help the new members. We have a very active forum, a very active IRC channel, and a large group of very deverse people with knowledge in everything.

As for the contest, it was an incredible tool in helping spur Folding@Home intreset. It was announced almost two months before it was over and every Folding member had the chance to win as long as they had submitted 1,000 points. I believe we got an extra entry for every extra 1,000 as well. The grand prize was a pre-modded case with PSU, motherboard and CPU i believe, and there were two runner up prizes of approx. 50$ and 25$ Best Buy gift cards.

~Devil

[Turias]

That's an awesome contest. I would consider contributing a little toward a similar one for MacNN.

Can anyone say, "Winner gets an iPod Mini"?

[DevilMB3017]

See, that was the great part of our contest, there was no contributions needed. They were all products we had reviewed or were payed for by advertising.

We're a big site, with big budgets