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Windows NT 4 and Proxy 2 Blocking Our Macs
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Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: St Paul, MN
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Hey All,
We just moved into a Windows NT 4 based network, and they use Proxy 2. We're running Panther on all of our Macs. They gave us a Proxy server address, a port number, and a user name and password for the Proxy server. We entered all of that information into the Proxies Network Pane of the System Preferences. Unfortunately, none of our Applications can access the internet, with the exception of Microsoft Applications (Internet Explorer & Entourage). We're stumped, and simply cannot work with just Internet Explorer and Entourage. We've got no Software Update, no Safari, Sherlock, nothing! Safari and the iTunes Music Store give an "error 407" message. Our Windows System Administrator is as stumped as we are. Any ideas? I appreciate your help!
One more thing - when we plug our gigabit switch into their network to attempt getting on their network, we can no longer see our own Macs through File Sharing! It seems their NT Server & Proxies prevent us from even accessing eachother.
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Last edited by Cory Bauer; Jan 6, 2004 at 11:25 PM.
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Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: St Paul, MN
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Bump. Anyone got any ideas?
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Mac Elite
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Saint-Jean-sur-Richelieu, Québec, Canada
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I work in a setup similar to yours.
Here, it's "Everybody" that as access to the Internet and such, we don't use authentication. I believe the problem you are experiencing is that you need the application to be authentified using NTLM so the proxy allows the connection to go trough. Maybe if you tried installed the NTLM module on your Macs so you could access network shares on the server it would work, but I'm not shure..
I hate Proxy 2, it's such a crap.. long life Squid!
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Mac Elite
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Trafalmadore
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Originally posted by Drizzt:
I hate Proxy 2, it's such a crap.. long life Squid!
Do as he ^^^ said and get yourself a linux box with RedHat 9 and put Squid on it, you will be glad you did. I dumped M$ Proxy years ago. While you are at it, install Snort on the same box.
Is your GB switch on a different subnet? Ensure that you turn off Tree Spanning. Most switches have this off by default. What kind of switch is it?
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Last edited by SMacTech; Jan 16, 2004 at 10:33 AM.
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Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: New York, NY
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Does Proxy 2 support SOCKS? I believe it does, and Panther has limited support for it.
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Senior User
Join Date: Mar 2001
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I would also like to know how to do this since I am finding the same problem. Nothing but IE can be used to surf the web and forget about trying to use Software Update. 
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Mac Elite
Join Date: Nov 2001
Location: Trafalmadore
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Originally posted by quadgrande:
Does Proxy 2 support SOCKS? I believe it does, and Panther has limited support for it.
Yes, it does SOCKS 5. There is some helpful information here and at M$ site
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Senior User
Join Date: Mar 2001
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The new Mozilla just came out this morning and i see this in its new features, "Mozilla 1.6 includes a new cross-platform NTLM authentication mechanism. This feature brings NTLM authentication to the non-Windows Mozilla users for the first time and also delivers more robust and featureful NTLM support to users of older Windows versions."
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Forum Regular
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: La Crosse , WI USA
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Make sure you've enabled 'basic' authentification on the proxy.
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Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: St Paul, MN
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Originally posted by laxthxdude:
Make sure you've enabled 'basic' authentification on the proxy.
Thanks everyone. laxthxdude, where would we find the basic authentication option? I mentioned this to the Server administrator, and he wasn't sure if this is an option in Proxy 2, but he's going to look.
To everyone who recommended getting something other than Proxy 2, that's probably the best solution, but unfortunately not an option for us. We can't expect them to tear up their entire server setup and disrupt everyone's workflow just because we brought a couple of Macs into the office.
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Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Paris, France
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Bit out of my depth here but when our few Mac;s had the same problem at work (IE can connect but nothing else), I installed Authoxy and it worked fine.
Why don't you give that a try....
Regards,
Jordan
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Dedicated MacNNer
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: St Paul, MN
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Originally posted by Jordan:
Bit out of my depth here but when our few Mac;s had the same problem at work (IE can connect but nothing else), I installed Authoxy and it worked fine.
Why don't you give that a try....
Regards,
Jordan
Tried that. Didn't work. But thanks. We actually bypassed their Proxy server today and have a direct line running from the DSL modem. Works great 
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