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nforcer · Mar 7, 2004, 04:53 PM

Watched a video (Windows Sh*ttia Player :/) of some GI's handling some looters in Iraq. At first I laughed because I thought it had to be some kind of satire with everything going on. Then I read the frontline transcript and found it is in there.

I have a hard time believing events actually happened as the video showed it. Maybe the troops wanted to make an example of looters, but it really seems like the video footage or narrator was not in context or exaggerated. Why do something like that in front of a camera crew and show faces? Why pump 2 dozen or so rounds in a car they were going to flatten anyway? If people from the camera crew could talk to the looters, why did one GI claim they couldn't understand them, or why didn't they know the purpose of the car?

Think the video shows an event as it actually happened (real), think nothing about it was right and it's a hoax (fake), or think some parts were intentionally edited and some narration changed to try and make people feel for the looters (exaggerated)?

Ω · Mar 7, 2004, 06:10 PM

It would be nieve to assume that no editing has occurred. The narrators want to get a point across so they highlilght the points that support their premise, and remove the ones that don't.

In saying that the basic fact, as I could see it, was that the US soldiers wanted to "punish" the looters, and hence, one dead car (a taxi??).

Is this wrong, or is it right?

I voted for true, as I thought it was more true than exaggerated.

ambush · Mar 7, 2004, 07:44 PM

**** the army.

Spliffdaddy · Mar 7, 2004, 07:48 PM

He used his taxi to loot (steal) and got it crushed.

Reckon he won't be doing any more looting (thievery) with that taxi.

wdlove · Mar 7, 2004, 07:56 PM

I think that it is just satire by someone that doesn't like Bush!

dtriska · Mar 7, 2004, 08:03 PM

Looks like the modus operandi of the US. And you wonder why Iraqis are trying to kill US soldiers, but Afghanis aren't doing the same to the ISF.

It's bloody wood, probably to heat their home. Let it go.

King Bob On The Cob · Mar 7, 2004, 09:37 PM

Originally posted by dtriska:
Looks like the modus operandi of the US. And you wonder why Iraqis are trying to kill US soldiers, but Afghanis aren't doing the same to the ISF.

It's bloody wood, probably to heat their home. Let it go.

It's not the Iraqians that are killing soldiers. It's mostly terrorists from Saudi.

Axo1ot1 · Mar 7, 2004, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
He used his taxi to loot (steal) and got it crushed.

Reckon he won't be doing any more looting (thievery) with that taxi.

You don't have the whole story. I can think of a ton of situations in which that would be wrong. For example, maybe he's just the driver and the looters hired his car. He migght have had no idea that that lumber was stolen.

I thought it strangely perverse that they crushed the car with the lumber still on it. So the crime sucks, but whomever lost the lumber lost if for good because the US army can't be arsed to take the lumber off the car that they are crushing? I protest.

waxcrash · Mar 7, 2004, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
**** the army.

**** George Bush. WMD my ass.

ambush · Mar 7, 2004, 10:29 PM

Originally posted by Axo1ot1:
You don't have the whole story. I can think of a ton of situations in which that would be wrong. For example, maybe he's just the driver and the looters hired his car. He migght have had no idea that that lumber was stolen.

I thought it strangely perverse that they crushed the car with the lumber still on it. So the crime sucks, but whomever lost the lumber lost if for good because the US army can't be arsed to take the lumber off the car that they are crushing? I protest.

Pleased to see that a BBQer can say something intelligent

MindFad · Mar 7, 2004, 11:42 PM

Originally posted by ambush:
Pleased to see that a BBQer can say something intelligent

As opposed to your pathetic tirade of Internet insecurity you showed off for me earlier today? Get a grip, little man; it's just the Internet, and you don't know sh�t.

Axo1ot1 · Mar 8, 2004, 08:47 AM

(owned)

mrfrost · Mar 8, 2004, 09:47 AM

bwahaha

Kenneth · Mar 8, 2004, 11:28 AM

Loot? Real? Fake? Exaggerated?

Never seen them around in my life in-terms of your meaning.

Gankdawg · 12:10 PM

Buh-bye. Either IBL or IBM for me....

I think it's exaggerated. In this day and age, it's so easy to edit/cut video.

benb · Mar 8, 2004, 12:14 PM

Originally posted by MindFad:
link

That has to be one of the most pathetic things I have ever read. The stuff in the grey bubbles that is.

Zimphire · Mar 8, 2004, 12:20 PM

Yeah.. what a exaggeration indeed.

wdlove · Mar 8, 2004, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by waxcrash:
**** George Bush. WMD my ass.

Before the war everyone agreed that WMD's existed in Iraq.

Zimphire · Mar 8, 2004, 12:30 PM

Not that we needed WMD as a excuse to oust that turd.

MindFad · Mar 8, 2004, 12:37 PM

Sure fumbled for excuses, though.

lil'babykitten · Mar 8, 2004, 12:41 PM

Originally posted by wdlove:
Before the war everyone agreed that WMD's existed in Iraq.

Not everyone. But for those that did, what are you going to do now you know WMD did not exist in Iraq and that Bush lied to all of you?

As for the video, who knows? But if the story is as it goes, why did they (the army) destroy the timber? If it was stolen why not return it to the owners? Seemed like a pretty stupid move. Not that I'm surprised.

Zimphire · Mar 8, 2004, 01:06 PM

Originally posted by lil'babykitten:
[B]Not everyone. But for those that did, what are you going to do now you know WMD did not exist in Iraq and that Bush lied to all of you?

Now now lbk come on. Just because we can't find them, or they aren't in Iraq RIGHT NOW, doesn't mean they never existed. Remember the UN tags some weapons in the 90s and Iraq admitted to having them.

BTW, If I see a monster out my window, and go tell my friend, and when he looks it's not there. Does that make me a liar? Of course not. Or if someone tells me their is a monster, and I believe it. And I tell someone else. But there really isn't one. Does that make me a liar? Of course not.

I think people are too quick to judge purely for political zealotry.

lil'babykitten · Mar 8, 2004, 01:17 PM

BS. Bush was going to war with Iraq from the moment he stepped foot in the White House. He needed an excuse, that was all.

Anyway, wrong forum.

Zimphire · Mar 8, 2004, 01:19 PM

Oh, I am sure him wanting to oust Saddam was on the list indeed.

So it SHOULD have been.

His dad should have done it when he had the chance.

philzilla · Mar 8, 2004, 01:28 PM

Originally posted by MindFad:
As opposed to your pathetic tirade of Internet insecurity you showed off for me earlier today? Get a grip, little man; it's just the Internet, and you don't know sh�t.

that is truly awesome. i've had a few like that from people here. i should save them and post them in future. ambush is truly sad.

as for the couple arguing above my head, get back in the political forum with that stuff.

(shouldn't you be working, kitten? i'm having a 5-minute break. what's your excuse?)

Zimphire · Mar 8, 2004, 01:38 PM

Ambush is a spaz. We knew that already.

brapper · Mar 8, 2004, 01:39 PM

real. with a sympathy card attempt for the cab driver.
also, love the comment about the kid neading to be in school...sure told him.

Zimphire · Mar 8, 2004, 01:54 PM

Well at-least we know there are 4 people in here easily misled.

waxcrash · Mar 8, 2004, 02:05 PM

Originally posted by wdlove:
Before the war everyone agreed that WMD's existed in Iraq.

I didn't. When the war started, I bet a few of my friends that all they would find was money and oil, which everyone knew was there. Guess who won the bet.

lil'babykitten · Mar 8, 2004, 02:28 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
Oh, I am sure him wanting to oust Saddam was on the list indeed.

So it SHOULD have been.

His dad should have done it when he had the chance.

Ousting Saddam - tip of the iceberg. Don't be so naive all the time.

lil'babykitten · Mar 8, 2004, 02:29 PM

Originally posted by philzilla:
(shouldn't you be working, kitten? i'm having a 5-minute break. what's your excuse?)

should - that's the important word there. Whether I am or not....well.....

Zimphire · Mar 8, 2004, 02:31 PM

Originally posted by lil'babykitten:
Ousting Saddam - tip of the iceberg. Don't be so naive all the time.

Ok

lil'babykitten · Mar 8, 2004, 02:38 PM

Ohhh I see we've switched to picture posting time now. Yay.

paully dub · Mar 8, 2004, 03:09 PM

Originally posted by lil'babykitten:
Ohhh I see we've switched to picture posting time now. Yay.

Great, cause I've got this vintage Mazda I'm dying to get off my hands.

Zimphire · Mar 8, 2004, 04:40 PM

Originally posted by lil'babykitten:
Ohhh I see we've switched to picture posting time now. Yay.

it goes along with name calling time.

MindFad · Mar 8, 2004, 04:42 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
it goes along with name calling time.

Shut up, dumbass.

ambush · Mar 8, 2004, 04:51 PM

Originally posted by MindFad:
As opposed to your pathetic tirade of Internet insecurity you showed off for me earlier today? Get a grip, little man; it's just the Internet, and you don't know sh�t.

I so knew you were going to post this

again, gg I win

btw.. this is a gadget overkill.. STOP IT J00 HURT MY EYEZ

Zimphire · Mar 8, 2004, 05:02 PM

Originally posted by MindFad:
Shut up, dumbass.

philzilla · Mar 8, 2004, 05:11 PM

haha, you lot should really take a look at yourselves in this thread. it's like friggin' kindergarten in here. highly laughable. and i'm not laughing with you, either.

get over yourselves and move on.

dillerX · Mar 8, 2004, 05:20 PM

when is nap time? I always loved that in kindergarten.

MindFad · Mar 8, 2004, 05:39 PM

I nominate Diller for teacher.

Lesson plan: match up the words "insecurity" on the Intarweb. The grade will go towards your final project on sarcasm, and how not to recognize it on web sites.

gg thx [/12-year-old]

dillerX · Mar 8, 2004, 05:54 PM

Teach eh? I think there is someone else more fit for that job.

Just give me my milk and nap damnit!

lil'babykitten · Mar 8, 2004, 05:57 PM

mmmm milk /kitten

ambush · Mar 8, 2004, 06:06 PM

Originally posted by MindFad:
I nominate Diller for teacher.

Lesson plan: match up the words "insecurity" on the Intarweb. The grade will go towards your final project on sarcasm, and how not to recognize it on web sites.

gg thx [/12-year-old]

MindFad · Mar 8, 2004, 06:17 PM

Oh, I see. We're in the reversal denial stage.

Yeah, gg.

Milk, Diller?

+1

Axo1ot1 · Mar 8, 2004, 06:26 PM

Originally posted by philzilla:
haha, you lot should really take a look at yourselves in this thread. it's like friggin' kindergarten in here. highly laughable.

You are correct, sir.

dillerX · Mar 8, 2004, 06:41 PM

Originally posted by MindFad:
Oh, I see. We're in the reversal denial stage.

Yeah, gg.

Milk, Diller?

+1

That is what they call CLASSIC intarweb fun.