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Powerbook · Jun 10, 2004, 07:22 AM

The first AmigaOS edition directly for PPC processors is out now as a developer release.

Developer Hyperion press: http://www.hyperion-entertainment.biz/amiga

OS screenshots and discussion in this thread:
http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/...e=flat&order=0

Regards,
PB

voodoo · Jun 10, 2004, 07:24 AM

Amiga OS? Ella es mi amiga con siempre. But I think I'll stick to the Mac OS X.

rezonate · Jun 10, 2004, 07:43 AM

Brilliant, Amiga is determined to not give up the ghost. It's funny talking of the Amiga, I'm about to dump a couple of A3000s just now. Sad times.

mitchell_pgh · Jun 10, 2004, 08:00 AM

Amiga OS is dead, long live Amiga OS.

iCol · Jun 10, 2004, 10:46 AM

Ooh, nice "dock" it has too.

er,

Seems familiar from somewhere. Can't quite pin it.

Anyway, glad Amiga are still alive, just about, and their new OS does look pretty good. But how many apps are there available for it? 3?

Still, good old Amiga. I miss playing Lemmings on mine.

BTW, can you get Lemmings for OS X?

mitchell_pgh · Jun 10, 2004, 10:49 AM

Originally posted by iCol:
Ooh, nice "dock" it has too.

er,

Seems familiar from somewhere. Can't quite pin it.

Anyway, glad Amiga are still alive, just about, and their new OS does look pretty good. But how many apps are there available for it? 3?

Still, good old Amiga. I miss playing Lemmings on mine.

BTW, can you get Lemmings for OS X?

Wonder what they call it... an "Application PORT".

iCol · Jun 10, 2004, 10:51 AM

I want a native version preferably.

Millennium · Jun 10, 2004, 11:08 AM

I always liked BeOS, myself; I had it running on my old PowerTower Pro. I tried the Amiga once or twice (emulated only, I'm afraid; I never owned one of the machines) but I never really cared for the interface.

That said, 4.0 is starting to shape up pretty nicely. The various BeOS remakes also look good, too.

rezonate · Jun 10, 2004, 11:15 AM

They were great in their day, but once Commodore went under (1994?), most of the major software developers moved on.
Outside of SGIs, Amigas were the other great 3D platform with many studios having them run alongside their workstations.
Was a great time to be able to knock up effects as good as those the big boys were doing.

Socially Awkward Solo · Jun 10, 2004, 11:20 AM

Big whoop. Where does anyone see this going other then a few geeks playing around with the OS.

MacGorilla · Jun 10, 2004, 11:24 AM

The amiga is a fine OS. If I could afford an AmigaOne, I'd get one, but I just spent $250 on a new Irix box.

rezonate · Jun 10, 2004, 11:26 AM

The most interest I'll show, will be to look at screenshots and maybe read a bit about it. I can applaud the tenacity of the authors, but I just hope they don't think this is going to be a viable alternative to what's out just now, like OS X, Windows, etc.

Me, I've got my SID player for the Mac, and hundreds of MBs worth of tunes. Amiga users will know what I'm talking about.

rezonate · Jun 10, 2004, 11:28 AM

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
The amiga is a fine OS. If I could afford an AmigaOne, I'd get one, but I just spent $250 on a new Irix box.

What SGI did you get?

:XI: · Jun 10, 2004, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by rezonate:
Brilliant, Amiga is determined to not give up the ghost. It's funny talking of the Amiga, I'm about to dump a couple of A3000s just now. Sad times.

Do they work? I'll gladly take them off your hands.

olePigeon · Jun 10, 2004, 12:13 PM

45MB for full install, 15MB for base install. I still think the AmigaOS is impressive. Someone needs to make an AmigaOS layer for OS X now. Be cool.

rezonate · 12:28 PM

Originally posted by :XI::
Do they work? I'll gladly take them off your hands.

Definitely, that'd be cool. One of them is a 25Mhz 68030, and works fine. The other had a motherbaord heart attack years ago so is dead to the world now, good for spares. These things are really heavy though, plus the monitor. If you can swing by and pick em up, no probs.

Gimme a PM.

rezonate · Jun 10, 2004, 12:22 PM

Originally posted by olePigeon:
45MB for full install, 15MB for base install. I still think the AmigaOS is impressive. Someone needs to make an AmigaOS layer for OS X now. Be cool.

Yeah, I remember Lightwave 3.5/4 took around 1MB ro run back then, and that was a pretty fully featured version.

angelmb · Jun 10, 2004, 01:41 PM

Originally posted by rezonate:
What SGI did you get?

ditto, $250 on a "new" irix box is a bargain

CharlesS · Jun 10, 2004, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by iCol:
Ooh, nice "dock" it has too.

er,

Seems familiar from somewhere. Can't quite pin it.

Yeah, and that "IBrowse" icon looks really familiar...

olePigeon · Jun 10, 2004, 02:12 PM

My friend has an Amiga 4000T with a 68060. He got the G3 upgrade board for it too. I bet he'll install it.

olePigeon · Jun 10, 2004, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by rezonate:
Yeah, I remember Lightwave 3.5/4 took around 1MB ro run back then, and that was a pretty fully featured version.

Interesting that a lot of TV studios STILL have Amigas for onscreen visuals. Kinda cool.

willed · Jun 10, 2004, 02:39 PM

So, err, what's the point?

davidflas · Jun 10, 2004, 03:53 PM

Originally posted by rezonate:
Brilliant, Amiga is determined to not give up the ghost. It's funny talking of the Amiga, I'm about to dump a couple of A3000s just now. Sad times.

Too bad you're in the UK, I'd take one of those off your hands..... for nostalgic value..

theolein · Jun 10, 2004, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by MacGorilla:
The amiga is a fine OS. If I could afford an AmigaOne, I'd get one, but I just spent $250 on a new Irix box.

It should be possible to get Amiga OS 4 to run on a Mac.

rezonate · Jun 10, 2004, 05:45 PM

Originally posted by davidflas:
Too bad you're in the UK, I'd take one of those off your hands..... for nostalgic value..

Yeah, I'd have been glad to as well. Cool knowing there are still Amiga fans out there wanting the old hardware.

It's been kinda strange too, beacuse I have to move again and really need to get rid of a ton of stuff. So while digging through the Amiga gear, I found my old DPS PAR card, which was just amazing for outputting footage to video. Hadn't set eyes on it for nearly 8 years.

Still need to get rid of a couple of SGI Octanes though, they're a killer to sell locally, unless you're prepared to send them by courier, but that's just too much just now.

:XI: · Jun 10, 2004, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by rezonate:
Yeah, I'd have been glad to as well. Cool knowing there are still Amiga fans out there wanting the old hardware.

It's been kinda strange too, beacuse I have to move again and really need to get rid of a ton of stuff. So while digging through the Amiga gear, I found my old DPS PAR card, which was just amazing for outputting footage to video. Hadn't set eyes on it for nearly 8 years.

Still need to get rid of a couple of SGI Octanes though, they're a killer to sell locally, unless you're prepared to send them by courier, but that's just too much just now.

Octanes! I just wet myself! (do you have irix discs though?)

Will McGoonigle · Jun 10, 2004, 07:38 PM

When I was growing up in England in the early 90s a friend had an Amiga and we used to play games for hours. An Amiga 500 I believe with a floppy and external HD. Great machine!

rezonate · Jun 10, 2004, 07:55 PM

Originally posted by :XI::
Octanes! I just wet myself! (do you have irix discs though?)

lol. I sure do. Got a boxed set of 6.5 (around 19 CDs), plus 6.5.21 on the HD.

I'll send you the specs in a PM.

MacGorilla · Jun 10, 2004, 10:19 PM

Originally posted by rezonate:
lol. I sure do. Got a boxed set of 6.5 (around 19 CDs), plus 6.5.21 on the HD.

I'll send you the specs in a PM.

Well, I got my Indigo2, all souped up, off ebay. Its my second machine and I'm happy.

philzilla · Jun 10, 2004, 10:28 PM

Originally posted by iCol:
Can't quite pin it.

defaults write com.apple.dock pinning start

(har har)

:XI: · Jun 11, 2004, 11:59 AM

Originally posted by philzilla:
defaults write com.apple.dock pinning start

(har har)

defaults write com.zilla.phil funny on

(I wish my funny wasn't broken...

)

MacGorilla · Jun 11, 2004, 12:23 PM

ummmmm

The Placid Casual · Jun 11, 2004, 01:29 PM

Isn't it about time that someone just put the whole Amiga project out of it's misery? A couple of shots to the head should do it.

I know they are running it on G4s and stuff, but the time of the Amiga is surely past... and it should be left to die with dignity.

CharlesS · Jun 11, 2004, 01:34 PM

Originally posted by The Placid Casual:
Isn't it about time that someone just put the whole Amiga project out of it's misery? A couple of shots to the head should do it.

I know they are running it on G4s and stuff, but the time of the Amiga is surely past... and it should be left to die with dignity.

Hey, there are people that say the same thing about the Mac. Why not live and let live? If there are people that like the Amiga, then more power to them if it continues to be available.

The Placid Casual · Jun 11, 2004, 01:50 PM

Originally posted by CharlesS:
Hey, there are people that say the same thing about the Mac. Why not live and let live? If there are people that like the Amiga, then more power to them if it continues to be available.

Suppose so, guess you are right.

willed · Jun 11, 2004, 04:00 PM

but what can you do on it which can't be done better/faster/cheaper/more easily on another system???

Like I said, what's the point? No one's answered this yet.

The Placid Casual · Jun 11, 2004, 05:42 PM

Originally posted by willed:
but what can you do on it which can't be done better/faster/cheaper/more easily on another system???

Like I said, what's the point? No one's answered this yet.

Well, I agree with you, but it keeps Amiga developers off the streets, which has to be a good thing...

mitchell_pgh · Jun 11, 2004, 05:58 PM

Originally posted by The Placid Casual:
Well, I agree with you, but it keeps Amiga developers off the streets, which has to be a good thing...

all 11 of them...

MacGorilla · Jun 11, 2004, 08:56 PM

Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
all 11 of them...

That many???

CharlesS · Jun 11, 2004, 09:08 PM

Originally posted by willed:
but what can you do on it which can't be done better/faster/cheaper/more easily on another system???

Like I said, what's the point? No one's answered this yet.

If people like it, let them have it. If there weren't some people who used it, it wouldn't still be under development.

Choice is good. The Amiga OS's existence surely won't hurt anyone.

ink · Jun 11, 2004, 09:23 PM

Originally posted by willed:
but what can you do on it which can't be done better/faster/cheaper/more easily on another system???

It's a love affair between man and machine. There is nothing rational about it. Some people are happy driving whatever car -- others want something more exotic... how else can you explain the hideous Pontiac Aztek or the overpriced Audi TT?

theolein · Jun 11, 2004, 11:07 PM

Originally posted by willed:
but what can you do on it which can't be done better/faster/cheaper/more easily on another system???

Like I said, what's the point? No one's answered this yet.

The Amiga REXX language system is something that has been approached by Applescript on the Mac and VBscript on Windows, but they don't have the almost universal ability to weld applications together like REXX does. That's one example. Another is the ability to turn protected memory off in Amiga OS4 (at least that's AFAIK, which isn't much), which can be useful for hacking hardware. The OS is also extremely light weight compared to almost all other modern OSes, even Linux (I think the kernel is a Linux kernel but I'm not sure), which means you get more bang for your buck in terms of performance.

Realistically, not that many people will develop for Amiga these days as the crowd that was into hacking hardware and software and tinkering with the system has largely moved onto Linux, but I agree with CharlesS that if there are people who want an alternative to Linux/OSX/Windows that has excellent mutlimedia performance, all the more power to them.

dracoleb · Jun 12, 2004, 12:59 AM

Originally posted by The Placid Casual:
Isn't it about time that someone just put the whole Amiga project out of it's misery? A couple of shots to the head should do it.

I know they are running it on G4s and stuff, but the time of the Amiga is surely past... and it should be left to die with dignity.

Of course PC users are saying the same thing about our Mac OS

The Placid Casual · Jun 12, 2004, 05:26 AM

Originally posted by dracoleb:
Of course PC users are saying the same thing about our Mac OS

Yes but they all want OS X deep down! The comparison between Amiga and Apple is not really analagous.

olePigeon · Jun 12, 2004, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by The Placid Casual:
Yes but they all want OS X deep down! The comparison between Amiga and Apple is not really analagous.

That's why there're several webpages devoted to making your PC look like Mac OS X. Kinda ironic.

mitchell_pgh · Jun 13, 2004, 12:40 AM

Originally posted by olePigeon:
That's why there're several webpages devoted to making your PC look like Mac OS X. Kinda ironic.

And the "make my PC look like an Amiga or BeOS" is far and few between.

Powerbook · Jun 13, 2004, 06:41 AM

Here's the first english review: http://www.amiga.org/modules/news/ar...p?storyid=4127

PB.

Fonzie · Jun 20, 2004, 05:24 AM

All this bashing AmigaOS is wrong I think, there should be room for other OS's - there is always a void to be filled out. Like the Mac is a niche. So is Amiga.

I swore to Amiga(OS1.3->3.9) for a good 10 years. Eventually running OS3.9 on a PPC Accelerator card(cyberstorm)

It could do everything I wanted it to at the time, and I could not imagine getting a PC(until that day finally arrived)

I ran out of options, GUI wise. But it seems now that things are coming back.

.....back on topic:
Each to their own is what I say. I find the GUI in AmigaOS(2->3.9 and now 4.0) very appealing. And the underlying system in AmigaOS is just as easy to figure out as OSX. The only difference thing with AmigaOS is that everything was accessible. Commands/Libraries/Fonts/Device Drivers/Monitor Drivers etc. - And one could copy things out and in againg without the system going haywire(unless you reset without taking precaution)

...So the OS and the computer has to live on for the sake of the people that use it religiously, like we use OSX and Macintosh. We are not so different from the people that uses Amiga.

Sorry that I bumped this after 7-8 days.