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StyleByte · Jul 7, 2004, 08:45 PM

I have a dual G5 yet, running Panther. As in another thread I stated I was switching from Mac to PC because of client needs so I can see what 95% of my clients see.

I love Macs and still use the G5 a lotl. But recently I now get up in the morning and sit down on my PC first. After seeing what Apple showed off for Tiger, it makes me see why I am sticking with the PC and Windows.

There is not much inovation happening besides the nice search feature. 64 should be a expected with 64 bit machines, so it's not a feature... the feature was on the G5, now they are just making that feature work better with Tiger.

Has the OS industry hit a wall for ideas?

yellowdog · Jul 7, 2004, 08:51 PM

Hang on -- The flames are about to lap at your feet like the serpents from hell.

milenko11 · Jul 7, 2004, 08:51 PM

Randman · Jul 7, 2004, 09:20 PM

Maflynn · Jul 7, 2004, 09:29 PM

I don't usually feed the trolls, but I wanted to bump up my post count.

So in the spirit of the post - don't let the door hit you on the way out. To each his own, you want to use a pc good for you.

hmurchison2001 · Jul 7, 2004, 09:36 PM

After seeing what Apple showed off for Tiger, it makes me see why I am sticking with the PC and Windows.

Are you a developer who went to WWDC. The power and potential of Tiger run a bit deeper than what you see on the surface. I find it ironic that people make claims of "lack of innovation" yet offer no suggestions in return. What would you like to see in Tiger that you are not getting? That's what we all want to hear. No one us cares whether you go PC or stay Mac we have our own lives to lead.

Xeo · Jul 7, 2004, 09:36 PM

Actually, I'm not that impressed with Tiger either. There are a few nice looking features, but nothing mind blowing. However, it'll take a lot more than that to make me give up my iBook. Windows is too crusty for me.

Besides, Tiger will still be nice.

Webscreamer · Jul 7, 2004, 09:48 PM

I like any Mac OS X updates with optimizations

OptimusG4 · Jul 7, 2004, 09:51 PM

Hey when you go, mind leaving the G5 for one of us to use?

CharlesS · Jul 7, 2004, 09:58 PM

No, please don't go! I don't think I can live without you here! Please, your presence here is so necessary for the functioning of the Mac community! We will all be so sad to see you go!

Oh, wait, I don't have any idea who you are. And I've never seen you around here. And you have 8 posts.

gorickey · 10:20 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
Besides, Tiger will still be nice.

Damn right it will be...remember, it's still a year out from being released and we are going to see alot more of Tiger and it's features in the months ahead that haven't been "publicly" shown I'm sure...

xi_hyperon · Jul 7, 2004, 10:09 PM

Might be wise to see something more than a pre-release version before making any conclusions.

Xeo · Jul 7, 2004, 10:17 PM

I agree with you last two posters. It's a long way off. However, as history has shown us, they don't come out with much more than the first preview they show. They'll just get it all working well.

gorickey · Jul 7, 2004, 10:21 PM

Originally posted by Xeo:
However, as history has shown us, they don't come out with much more than the first preview they show. They'll just get it all working well.

True; however, one thing history doesn't have thus far is a preview of an OS that is a year out from being released...until now...

Xeo · Jul 7, 2004, 10:41 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:
True; however, one thing history doesn't have thus far is a preview of an OS that is a year out from being released...until now...

Yep, I agree. A year before Panther's release they had minimize in place. I think that evolved into Expose. I wonder if they would drastically evolve a feature they have shown us, or build something brand new into it before it goes into QA. Would be a pleasant surprise.

hldan · Jul 7, 2004, 11:03 PM

Well, to the original poster, who gives a $hi-takeee mushroom. Get rid of your G5 an continue using your Wintel PC. I don't think anyone will switch along with you just because you don't care for Tigers new features or lack there of. My only question is what does Windows XP,2000 or 98 have that's innovating that would make you or anyone dislike Tiger's features so much that you would need to go back to a Wintel machine?

More than likely the answer is nothing! Nothing is exciting an innovative about Windows.

alphasubzero949 · Jul 8, 2004, 12:20 AM

Spliffdaddy · Jul 8, 2004, 12:46 AM

Originally posted by gorickey:
True; however, one thing history doesn't have thus far is a preview of an OS that is a year out from being released...until now...

Do we count the original retail OSX as a one year preview of the real thing?

MindFad · Jul 8, 2004, 12:59 AM

Xeo · Jul 8, 2004, 01:11 AM

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
Do we count the original retail OSX as a one year preview of the real thing?

10.0's life-span was 6 months.

wataru · Jul 8, 2004, 01:25 AM

'Fad: Who made that? The Japanese is terrible. Nice concept, though.

MindFad · Jul 8, 2004, 01:42 AM

I did, sorry.

I actually thought of running it by you first. I had to cut it in half somewhere.

Blame Sherlock translation.

workerbee · Jul 8, 2004, 02:00 AM

Originally posted by wataru:
'Fad: Who made that? The Japanese is terrible. Nice concept, though.

The German is hilarious. Well done!

MindFad · Jul 8, 2004, 02:13 AM

Sorry!

Link · Jul 8, 2004, 02:29 AM

I vote T for troll. This guy has 8 posts and 6 of them are about how he "Switched to PC".

wataru · Jul 8, 2004, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by MindFad:
I did, sorry. I actually thought of running it by you first. I had to cut it in half somewhere. Blame Sherlock translation.

Actually, I changed my mind. I think that this may be the one time that machine translation is the right tool for the job

My translation of the bad Japanese:
"Regrettable, a string that has been slowed down has happened. It is necessary to restart the internet. Maintain the strength button on behalf of some seconds, or push the restart button."

Note: I exaggerated some of the phrases to convey poor grammar and strange word choice.

MindFad · Jul 8, 2004, 03:01 AM

That is hilarious.

Please be sure to maintain the strength button.

CharlesS · Jul 8, 2004, 03:14 AM

Dammit, MindFad, I was going to do that as soon as I could get some German and Japanese-speaking accomplices.

Shoulda just used Sherlock. Although the text I was going to use was slightly different, so I might still do it eventually.

Oh, and alphasubzero:

Ilja · Jul 8, 2004, 05:00 AM

Originally posted by StyleByte:
I have a dual G5 yet, running Panther. As in another thread I stated I was switching from Mac to PC because of client needs so I can see what 95% of my clients see.

I love Macs and still use the G5 a lotl. But recently I now get up in the morning and sit down on my PC first. After seeing what Apple showed off for Tiger, it makes me see why I am sticking with the PC and Windows.

There is not much inovation happening besides the nice search feature. 64 should be a expected with 64 bit machines, so it's not a feature... the feature was on the G5, now they are just making that feature work better with Tiger.

Has the OS industry hit a wall for ideas?

Hey! Can I buy your 'shitty' dual G5 for like ... cheap?

Chuckit · Jul 8, 2004, 05:42 AM

I think he's right, guys. Tiger is just not that innovative, whereas Windows is making revolutionary breakthroughs with all those...security patches.

Spheric Harlot · Jul 8, 2004, 07:03 AM

Originally posted by MindFad:

German:

"Sad, a delayed screw thread has occurred. You must start over the Internet. Stop the Energy key for a few seconds or operate the Retry key."

I thought that was pretty lyrical.

-s*

Randman · Jul 8, 2004, 07:26 AM

Isn't the term "delayed screw thread" apt?

Zadian · Jul 8, 2004, 07:27 AM

Systran (via Sherlock) translation of the german text:

"Sadly, a delayed thread occurred. They must again-begin the InterNet.
Stop the energy key for some seconds or operate you the restart key."

badidea · Jul 8, 2004, 07:49 AM

<post removed>

note to myself: read the thread to the end before posting what several others have already posted!

chris v · Jul 8, 2004, 07:50 AM

Originally posted by Zadian:

They must again-begin the InterNet.

That's no joke.

CV

Millennium · Jul 8, 2004, 07:52 AM

Originally posted by StyleByte:
I have a dual G5 yet, running Panther. As in another thread I stated I was switching from Mac to PC because of client needs so I can see what 95% of my clients see.

And as I pointed out in that thread, you made the wrong decision on so many levels that it's not even funny, including the fact that you are not, in fact, seeing what "95% of your clients" see, and that even if you were, you could have done it much more cheaply with an emulator.

There is not much inovation happening besides the nice search feature. 64 should be a expected with 64 bit machines, so it's not a feature... the feature was on the G5, now they are just making that feature work better with Tiger.

You call anything touted for Longhorn 'innovation', if nothing from Tiger is? Don't make me laugh. You're nothing but a troll.

Horsepoo!!! · Jul 8, 2004, 08:17 AM

This was a post and run brought to you by Style Byte and the number 8.

Lock'er up.

Chuckit · Jul 8, 2004, 08:44 AM

Originally posted by Millennium:
you could have done it much more cheaply with an emulator.

Is there any emulator for the G5 that can run Windows better than a $300 PC can?

Millennium · Jul 8, 2004, 10:14 AM

Originally posted by Chuckit:
Is there any emulator for the G5 that can run Windows better than a $300 PC can?

He doesn't need Windows per se; what he needs is IE/Win (or at least, that's what his posts say). Almost any emulator can handle IE/Win admirably, as it's not exactly a performance-critical application.

nooon · Jul 8, 2004, 11:35 AM

Well, can I have you G5 when you switch?

Spliffdaddy · Jul 8, 2004, 11:35 AM

Originally posted by Chuckit:
Is there any emulator for the G5 that can run Windows better than a $300 PC can?

no

Xeo · Jul 8, 2004, 11:47 AM

Originally posted by Spliffdaddy:
no

I'm going to have to agree with you on that, considering $300 on a PC will get you a decent machine if you can plug the parts together.

turtle777 · Jul 8, 2004, 11:56 AM

Originally posted by nooon:
Well, can I have you G5 when you switch?

How many more are gonna ask this ?

-t

StyleByte · Jul 8, 2004, 02:05 PM

Honestly, I am a Mac user...but not a crazy one. I always used it, but not some of you die-hard fans.

Many people make a switch as me everyday, but they don't come on and try to explain why. I MB was bashing Tiger too much and harshly, sorry. I know you guys are true and loyal to your platform.

Sometimes people have to use what gets the job done faster for *them*.

I love all of the feedback..

thanks

Horsepoo!!! · Jul 8, 2004, 02:08 PM

Originally posted by StyleByte:
Honestly, I am a Mac user...but not a crazy one. I always used it, but not some of you die-hard fans.

Many people make a switch as me everyday, but they don't come on and try to explain why. I MB was bashing Tiger too much and harshly, sorry. I know you guys are true and loyal to your platform.

Sometimes people have to use what gets the job done faster for *them*.

I love all of the feedback..

thanks

Haha...you'll be back. Almost everyone goes back to Mac. Everyone except the hardcore gamers.

BTW, you should be using web standards.

StyleByte · Jul 8, 2004, 02:14 PM

I guess we'll see if I "come back" as you like tol call it. I never went anywhere, just for development I use the PC and as my lounging machine.

I use my Mac still to do some tasks that it does do better than a PC.

We'll see what Apple has in store and I will weigh my options in the future.

Horsepoo!!! · Jul 8, 2004, 02:15 PM

Originally posted by StyleByte:
I guess we'll see if I "come back" as you like tol call it. I never went anywhere, just for development I use the PC and as my lounging machine.

I use my Mac still to do some tasks that it does do better than a PC.

We'll see what Apple has in store and I will weigh my options in the future.

Ok...best of both worlds approach. That's good.

hmurchison2001 · Jul 8, 2004, 02:25 PM

I still haven't had an answer about why Macs aren't suitable. This is still Troll bait.

Randman · Jul 8, 2004, 02:36 PM

Originally posted by StyleByte:
I use my Mac still to do some tasks that it does do better than a PC.

We'll see what Apple has in store and I will weigh my options in the future.

Translated: I really have no clue as to what I'm talking about but it makes me feel better if I jump from one platform to another as to appear trendy and wise to those silly enough to fall for my schtick.

Ganesha · Jul 8, 2004, 02:42 PM

Developing for IE first is the SLOW way to go. It is much easier to write to standards and tweak for IE then to write for IE and tweak for other browsers. It is very easy to spot IE code that hasn't been even looked at with another browser.

Of course this is a good thing if you are billing hourly.