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Nov 14, 2005, 07:44 PM
 
I went to put a deposit on Ridge Racer 6 for the 360 only to find that it's a $60 game. Ridge Racer sure as hell doesn't deserve a $60 price tag. I didn't buy it. Do you think this is going to hurt the industry? Is there a psychoogical "hump" that you hit when something goes over $50 where you fell that it's getting into the "too expensive" range?

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Nov 14, 2005, 07:48 PM
 
I don't play video games any more. Most of them aren't worth the cash you blow on them.
     
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Nov 14, 2005, 07:49 PM
 
Originally Posted by Salty
I don't play video games any more. Most of them aren't worth the cash you blow on them.
Ya why pay for video games when posting on MacNN is free.

Actually $60 isn't even that high, remember many N64 titles? Some were $90+.

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Nov 14, 2005, 08:01 PM
 
Thats what I pay for all my games...I in fact just paid that for GTA for my PSP.
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Nov 14, 2005, 08:05 PM
 
It's a lot, but it doesn't seem like they've risen very quickly. I remember 10 or 12 years ago, the best new games were retailing for $49.99.

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Nov 14, 2005, 08:18 PM
 
If only you could return games you don't like back to the store.
     
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Nov 14, 2005, 08:25 PM
 
i dont play video games - i did play my sega gensis earlier today super tecmo bowl - anyways i think they should do more two pack games - say $50 for one game but $75 for two??? or do they already do this???

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Nov 14, 2005, 08:38 PM
 
Kinda like the hump that was hit with some PSP games went for $50US. The PS2 games that cost $40.00 is just about the right amount where it even becomes an "impulse" buy. Hell, the $7 or $8 dollars to rent a game for a week through Blockbuster I find to be outrageous.

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Nov 14, 2005, 08:39 PM
 
No, I wouldn't.

High game prices are the main reason why I don't have any game console. That is besides the fact that I don't own a television. I'd buy a decent console if new games had a 20 - 30 bucks price tag. I know game development consumes lots of money, and I know there are many people out there willing to pay the current prices, so I don't have any hopes to own a game console in the future.
     
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Nov 14, 2005, 08:56 PM
 
$60 for a game isn't that bad. It's when you pay the f*cking $60 for the game AND have to pay the god damn $15/month to play it online.

I HATE Pay-To-Play.
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Nov 14, 2005, 09:01 PM
 
ptttfttttt $60. I go the ebgames here in Perth and the new games all cost around AU$100 for any system...that roughly translates to US$75. absolutely rediculious if u ask me.

Sure ill buy games at $60, but just fewer games and only ones that i feel are worth $60.

Maybe its time games got a price bracket depending on their demand. Like the not so popular ones get introduced at a baseline price of say $40, and the really popular ones that were expensive to make and market retail for no more than $60 ?
     
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Nov 14, 2005, 09:44 PM
 
games for teh genesis used to be upwards of $80. The longer ones (RPGs) with "Battery Backup" seemed especially pricey.
     
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Nov 14, 2005, 10:06 PM
 
Kids will naturally want the higher priced games... and parents generally give their kids what they want.
     
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Nov 14, 2005, 10:22 PM
 
Originally Posted by olePigeon
$60 for a game isn't that bad. It's when you pay the f*cking $60 for the game AND have to pay the god damn $15/month to play it online.

I HATE Pay-To-Play.


That's why I never bought World of Warcraft, though I hear it was a good game.
     
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Nov 14, 2005, 10:28 PM
 
Originally Posted by production_coordinator
Kids will naturally want the higher priced games... and parents generally give their kids what they want.
true...never occured to me, and it would also discourage developers from trying something new. bad idea to have a price bracket. but i think $50 is the sweet spot.

Also, i have the GCN i purchaced in the US...its actually cheaper for me to buy a brand new game off Amazon and have it delivered to me from the U.S. than to drive to my local EBGames(5 minutes away) and buy it. How rediculious is that ?
     
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Nov 14, 2005, 10:41 PM
 
I paid $59.99 for mariopaint when it came out, but it included the nintendo mouse
     
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Nov 14, 2005, 10:52 PM
 
I don't plan on paying $60/game any time soon.

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Nov 14, 2005, 11:25 PM
 
If you think about it in terms of hours of entertainment it is much cheaper than going to see a movie.

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Nov 14, 2005, 11:35 PM
 
'Dark Helmet' I completely agree with you
But lets see how much PS3 with be with Blue-ray discs. That sounds expensive.

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Nov 14, 2005, 11:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dark Helmet
If you think about it in terms of hours of entertainment it is much cheaper than going to see a movie.
There are great previous-generation games I haven't played that are even cheaper.

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Nov 14, 2005, 11:37 PM
 
Originally Posted by MM-o4
'Dark Helmet' I completely agree with you
But lets see how much PS3 with be with Blue-ray discs. That sounds expensive.

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I doubt all games will be blu-ray discs. When the PS2 came out the majority of the games were regular CDs, with a few games being DVDs.
     
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Nov 14, 2005, 11:49 PM
 
Originally Posted by DeathMan
games for teh genesis used to be upwards of $80. The longer ones (RPGs) with "Battery Backup" seemed especially pricey.

chrono trigger on SNES was like 75 retail. i think there was a genesis game that was 100, wasnt there? the last phantasy star maybe?
     
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Nov 14, 2005, 11:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by MM-o4
'Dark Helmet' I completely agree with you
But lets see how much PS3 with be with Blue-ray discs. That sounds expensive.

MM
Still waaaaay cheaper than a ROM cart like the N64 had. I think at worst a blu-ray disk might cost $2 more to make over a DVD.

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Nov 15, 2005, 12:17 AM
 
Conkers Bad Fur Day was $140 AUS for the N64.
It hurts to think how much maoney I have spent on games after having owned :
Nintendo Controll Deck
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And I currently have a Game Cube, a PC and a Mac with games.

I am also wanting to get one of the next gen systems, either a PS3 but most likely a Nintendo Rev.
Crazy. I am the game industry's bitch

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Nov 15, 2005, 01:05 AM
 
geezzz finally made it to 200 posts. Been lurking round here for the last 4 years.

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Nov 15, 2005, 01:29 AM
 
I can definitely remember when N64 was out that games were regularly over the $60 mark upon release. Good thing I had friends whose parents would fork over the money for that sort of thing. With the present state of some of the big name games out there they're not worth it. Sure some of them are fun to start but most lose their novelty real fast or they're just really short games. I remember a certain RPG to end all RPGs that came out last year that I finished(side quests included) in under a week. In my opinion there are only a handful of games actually worth playing these days and it's a shame the majority of them are available only for x-box and windows.
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Nov 15, 2005, 02:46 AM
 
Originally Posted by triskele
I can definitely remember when N64 was out that games were regularly over the $60 mark upon release. Good thing I had friends whose parents would fork over the money for that sort of thing. With the present state of some of the big name games out there they're not worth it. Sure some of them are fun to start but most lose their novelty real fast or they're just really short games. I remember a certain RPG to end all RPGs that came out last year that I finished(side quests included) in under a week. In my opinion there are only a handful of games actually worth playing these days and it's a shame the majority of them are available only for x-box and windows.
You finished WoW in a week?

But, I've heard it's all about the replayability and the immersive environment... or something like that.
     
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Nov 15, 2005, 03:09 AM
 
No.
     
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Nov 15, 2005, 03:23 AM
 
I was refering to Fable, and if they would've finished everything they said they were gonna put in it like 30 hous of gameplay and a handfull of other stuff it woulda been a stand up game. But now it's a year later and you can get it brand new for $19.99. That's not what I call staying power. Now Morrowind, there's an RPG. Damn them for not putting it on Mac, it would look amazing on a 20" widescreen. I may have to suck it up and get Virtual PC when Oblivion comes out. That'll be almost $200 for a game.

And about WoW I'm sceptical. I've never been big on the whole MMORPG thing.
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Nov 15, 2005, 03:24 AM
 
Originally Posted by Dark Helmet
Some were $90+.
In what? Canadian?
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Nov 15, 2005, 03:25 AM
 
Originally Posted by triskele
I may have to suck it up and get Virtual PC when Oblivion comes out. That'll be almost $200 for a game.
3D games don't run under Virtual PC.
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Nov 15, 2005, 03:40 AM
 
Will you pay $60 for videogames?
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Nov 15, 2005, 04:24 AM
 
$60 U.S. for Ridge Racer? NO...!!!

I can't remember the title but it was selling for $79.99 CAN, the ONLY game on XBOX 360 I would pay for that price is...

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Nov 15, 2005, 10:00 AM
 
Originally Posted by goMac
3D games don't run under Virtual PC.
They don't? I thought if you had 2 video cards they did.
     
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Nov 15, 2005, 11:42 AM
 
Thanks for the heads up gMac. I'll have to look into that a little more. And I have an iMac so if you do, in fact, need two video cards to get 3D out of Virtual PC then I'm screwed and M$ needs to rewrite their program so it works the way it should.
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Nov 15, 2005, 11:52 AM
 
$60 games will all be available for $30 or less 6 months after they come out. If you don't want to pay full price, just wait.

That's what I do for a lot of games. I only buy the AAA titles right when they come out.

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Nov 15, 2005, 12:13 PM
 
Hmm -- many xbox 360 games in the UK appear to have an RRP of £50 (86.7456 USD)

Sigh... I remember when games cost £5-£10 on casette tape.
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Originally Posted by goMac
In what? Canadian?
American. In Canadian I saw some fighting game for $119 for the N64. Conkers for N64 was also expensive.

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Originally Posted by SuvsareRetarded
They don't? I thought if you had 2 video cards they did.
Long long ago if you had a Vodoo card with VPC3 you could. ATI and NVidia cards have never worked with VPC, and they dropped support anything iirc.
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Originally Posted by triskele
Thanks for the heads up gMac. I'll have to look into that a little more. And I have an iMac so if you do, in fact, need two video cards to get 3D out of Virtual PC then I'm screwed and M$ needs to rewrite their program so it works the way it should.
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Yeah, N64 games used to start at $59 bucks. A lot of them were $69 and some where as high as $79.

That was one of the main reasons they got spanked so hard by Sony. When CD games started to become available for $20 or less it got the attention of a whole new demographic. Cart games could never get that low.

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Originally Posted by ort888
Yeah, N64 games used to start at $59 bucks. A lot of them were $69 and some where as high as $79.

That was one of the main reasons they got spanked so hard by Sony. When CD games started to become available for $20 or less it got the attention of a whole new demographic. Cart games could never get that low.

The problem with the N64 was just not the final ROM costs. FIRST, having to have things on carts was a pain for developers as they couldn't just burn a CD of the game for testing, they had to buy special dev carts from Nintendo that could be re-written (they were also huge). It was slow and a pain.

Second, the cost of the final ROMS was expensive to make.

Third, Nintendo charged and arm and a leg for licensing at the time. They were just coming from the monopoly called Super nintendo and thought they could charge what they wanted. After the first year when Nintendo games were close to $100 and more people were going to playstation they lowered their licensing costs.

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Nov 15, 2005, 05:26 PM
 
Already did, GT4 and Ratchet & Clank I-II-III platium thanks to SWG.
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Nov 15, 2005, 05:41 PM
 
Yes, but only since i've become a much more casual gamer, buying no more than 5 games a year (more like 2-3).
     
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Nov 15, 2005, 05:51 PM
 
Originally Posted by ort888
Yeah, N64 games used to start at $59 bucks. A lot of them were $69 and some where as high as $79.

That was one of the main reasons they got spanked so hard by Sony. When CD games started to become available for $20 or less it got the attention of a whole new demographic. Cart games could never get that low.
yeah theres something to be said for cart systems though, you can save the game on the cart and the systems last forever because they are solid state. Oh and I wouldn't pay $60 for ridgeracer, maybe final fantasy or something but not ridgeracer.
     
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Nov 15, 2005, 06:27 PM
 
I was pissed when I got my mega CD with Sonic CD and finished the game that day!
Yeah Sonic looked cool with great quality music but where was the value in that.

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Nov 15, 2005, 06:30 PM
 
I normally buy used CDs and games. Seems a good deal to wait a little while for a used copy of a game where the price has dropped rather than spend way too much money during its initial release.
     
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Nov 15, 2005, 09:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by macaddict0001
yeah theres something to be said for cart systems though, you can save the game on the cart and the systems last forever because they are solid state.
The best thing about cartridges is the lack of ridiculous loading times.

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Nov 15, 2005, 10:13 PM
 
Wait... you mean.. people ACTUALLY pay for video games. Wow. Thats unexpected.

I mean, I pay for video games every now and then, but those are for my Dreamcast, and are usually about 500 Yen.

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Nov 15, 2005, 10:16 PM
 
No chance. $60 price tag is too high. Video game companies are making money hand over fist. I'll just wait for a price cut... All $60 games will be $20 eventually.
     
   
 
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