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Jan 17, 2006, 11:17 PM
 
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Jan 17, 2006, 11:29 PM
 
Do people still boot their computers enough to care?

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Jan 17, 2006, 11:31 PM
 
i booted my G5 for the hell of it and it smoked their G5

left bun has a good point - most people dont boot their computers much

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Jan 17, 2006, 11:32 PM
 
Something's not right. My 1.67GHz PowerBook boots a helluva lot faster than that G5.

This is my guess: Intel iMac: 512MB RAM v G5 iMac: 256MB RAM, especially if they were factory direct out of the box original configuration.
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Jan 17, 2006, 11:34 PM
 
I've got an iMac G5 - it doesn't take that long to boot.

Someone on that page had a good idea - the kernel caches on the iMac G5 may be corrupted. They could try deleting /System/Library/Extensions.mkext and /System/Library/Extensions.kextcache and then reboot it once to rebuild them, and see if that helps.

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Jan 17, 2006, 11:38 PM
 
That test is screwy. Check this one;

http://silvermac.com/blog/archives/58
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Jan 17, 2006, 11:50 PM
 
I don't know if I was surprised at how fast the intelmac booted or how slow there g5 mac was to boot
     
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Jan 18, 2006, 12:54 AM
 
My g4 cube 450 boots in 50 seconds or less. Something is obviously goofed up on the g5 imac. Maybe updates slowed it down?
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Jan 18, 2006, 01:03 AM
 
I think my iDisk slows down my boot time. Sometimes it puts some message up about a "mirror agent" or something like that.
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Jan 18, 2006, 01:39 AM
 
love it when the guy goes:

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Jan 18, 2006, 01:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by Spook E
love it when the guy goes:

"I'm going to post this to the web straight away, this needs to be shared with the world"

You go girlfriend!
LOL I missed that. They obviously have no clue or they would have noticed it taking to long.
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Jan 18, 2006, 01:44 AM
 
My Cube (1.7) boots way faster than that, and my G5 iMac even faster. Not as fast as their Yonah iMac though.
     
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Jan 18, 2006, 01:53 AM
 
Originally Posted by Eug Wanker
My Cube (1.7) boots way faster than that, and my G5 iMac even faster. Not as fast as their Yonah iMac though.
I was going to say the same thing. The 450MHz cube I have is much faster, that iMac is ****ed up somehow.

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Jan 18, 2006, 07:31 AM
 
Among other things, those machines were not started up at the same time. Listen carefully to the start sound. The video seems to have been recorded in mono, so it's not really possible to tell which machine started up first, but it lasts too long for both machines to have started simultaneously.
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Jan 18, 2006, 11:12 AM
 
Originally Posted by Spook E
love it when the guy goes:

"I'm going to post this to the web straight away, this needs to be shared with the world"

You go girlfriend!
yes that was the best part - he could just show this video to chicks and totally get laid 24/7

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Jan 18, 2006, 12:39 PM
 
Originally Posted by Spook E
this needs to be shared with the world
that's my favorite part too. the rest, ner. actually, all of it.

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Jan 18, 2006, 12:54 PM
 
According to Arstechnica, the new iMac boots much faster.

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardw...-coreduo.ars/4

Booting is fast on the iMac Core Duo. I didn't time all three machines, but the Core Duo booted up in 28 seconds from the time I hit the power button until the desktop and dock appeared. That is significantly faster than both the iMac G5 and the Power Mac G5.
     
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Jan 18, 2006, 01:19 PM
 
Is the "IX" a 1 out of 10 score? That's not too shabby if it is. Did you see the multi-threading benchmark? Holy cow, even under Rosetta it slaughtered the G5.

Now I'm really, really curious how OS X Server will run on an Intel. I remember it had some serious problems dealing with the highly threaded server, but if the Intel Core Duo handles threads as efficiently as that benchmark indicates, that might not be a problem at all.
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Jan 18, 2006, 03:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by olePigeon
Is the "IX" a 1 out of 10 score?
I'd say 9 out of 10

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Jan 18, 2006, 03:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by what_the_heck
According to Arstechnica, the new iMac boots much faster.

http://arstechnica.com/reviews/hardw...-coreduo.ars/4
Booting is fast on the iMac Core Duo. I didn't time all three machines, but the Core Duo booted up in 28 seconds from the time I hit the power button until the desktop and dock appeared. That is significantly faster than both the iMac G5 and the Power Mac G5
Boot times as measured by Other World Computing



"Time to boot system into Mac OS X - timed using digital stopwatch, from moment the Apple logo appears on the screen to the time that the apple logo appears in the top left of the menu bar."

Now their boot time definition is different, but it's clear that there's something odd with that video. The iMac G5 gets 79 seconds in that video by my stopwatch. In other words, the upgraded Cube is 5X as fast than the iMac G5, and the stock G4 450 Cube is only 3X as fast as the iMac G5.

BTW, in that video, the Intel iMac takes 27 seconds, using OWC's definition.
     
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Jan 18, 2006, 07:28 PM
 
Originally Posted by Goldfinger
I'd say 9 out of 10
Err, I meant, a score from 1 through 10.
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Jan 19, 2006, 12:55 PM
 
Thats a bullshit test, my iMac 800Mhz G4 boots up just about as fast as the intel on in the video. I tested it, if I jack the power plug from my mac, it takes a full 2 minutes to boot. Normal shut off and start up, was way under a minute. I would have liked to see the 2 computers shutdown then started up to be fair.
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Jan 19, 2006, 01:57 PM
 
There was something wrong with the one on the right. It sat there with a black screen for the first 10 seconds before that Apple screen even came up. What machine takes that long?

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Jan 19, 2006, 02:55 PM
 
Ya, there's a serious problem there. It's been a while since I restarted my G4 iBook, but it's definitely much faster than that. Maybe they had just upgraded the G5 to 10.4.4 and it was finishing installation? Or maybe it just had a lot less memory than the Intel. Weird.

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