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Peter · Feb 11, 2006, 09:46 AM

Pete Doherty's prison diaries have been printed by a national newspaper.

The Guardian has printed extracts from the diary of the Babyshambles frontman penned while he was on remand in prison.

Doherty writes that he felt: "like a freak show" in prison, as other inmates screamed his name: "like apes" at his cell door.

http://www.nme.com/news/babyshambles/22197

Any idea if these got published anywhere on the net? I'd love to read them somewhere (no access to newspaper today :/)

Peter · Feb 11, 2006, 09:48 AM

http://www.guardian.co.uk/arts/news/...707515,00.html

whoops.

Cody Dawg · Feb 11, 2006, 09:51 AM

He's a loser just because he blew it with Kate Moss.

I see paint-cracked walls stained with shite
Long long lock-up days
Cold lonely nights
And I think to myself ... what a wonderful world

No wonder she left him.

Peter · Feb 11, 2006, 09:55 AM

He isnt a loser.

Cody Dawg · Feb 11, 2006, 10:02 AM

Let me add this.

I think he's talented. There's no doubt about it. He's also intelligent and I think he's a poet as evidenced by his writings.

But his drug habit and inability to kick it - despite having a lot of money to ENABLE him to kick it - make him a loser in my small little book.

Kevin · Feb 11, 2006, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

But his drug habit and inability to kick it - despite having a lot of money to ENABLE him to kick it - make him a loser in my small little book.

Some people self medicate. If that is the case, it's not the drug that is the problem.

Lots of "talented" and "gifted" people also have mental issues.

We all do actually, just some more severe than others.

Cody, once you are an addict, you will always be an addict.

Now having said that, there is a way to rid yourself of such messes. He is just still looking.

Peter · Feb 11, 2006, 10:16 AM

Pete Doherty is an exceptional poet. I have so much respect for the guy - Libertines, Babyshambles - pure genius.

Cody Dawg · Feb 11, 2006, 10:39 AM

I was an addict.

To prescription drugs.

To that extent I don't use them now unless absolutely necessary and now I have control, but for a long time I didn't. I was working as a model and a physician I was dating gave me whatever I wanted. It took professional help to beat the addiction - and saying "I want to quit."

I also don't drink for that reason. I'm prone to become an alcoholic for the same reason.

The last time I had a drink was at the holidays and I had two glasses of wine.

Before that...

???

Can't remember.

Kevin · Feb 11, 2006, 10:44 AM

So were you a loser when you were addicted? Probably not. Just human.

Cody Dawg · Feb 11, 2006, 11:00 AM

No, I was a LOSER.

I didn't like myself - make that DESPISED myself - and I got help and to do that I quit taking narx, quit my job and went to college instead, and moved to a healthier environment where I reformed friendships. It took a lot of effort but I thank God in heaven today that I did it because my life is bangin now.

wdlove · Feb 11, 2006, 11:27 AM

I'm very proud of you Cody. Shows that you have discipline and will power. My dear friend.

Cody Dawg · Feb 11, 2006, 11:36 AM

I tried to call you back, WDLove, but I think you were having lunch?

I'll ring you this weekend.

Now, yes, ANYONE can beat an addiction and Pete Doherty reminds me of Cobain. What a huge loss Cobain is, eh?

We'd rather have him alive than dead, no?

So he should get his "shite" together and get some help. Like Kate Moss did.

Kevin · Feb 11, 2006, 11:39 AM

Cobain had bipolar disorder, and those that should have been helping him, did not, but was promoting his behavior. (They make money either way) When they decided to help, it was too late, and they went about it the wrong way.

Doofy · Feb 12, 2006, 10:37 AM

Doherty is a loser. His music and poetry suck. Period. End of story.

scaught · Feb 12, 2006, 11:40 AM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

But his drug habit and inability to kick it - despite having a lot of money to ENABLE him to kick it - make him a loser in my small little book.

you have zero self esteem and need to belittle others to make yourself feel better.

Kevin · Feb 12, 2006, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by scaught

you have zero self esteem and need to belittle others to make yourself feel better.

So scaught, is that why you posted this post also?

Now get that foot out of your mouth before replying.

scaught · Feb 12, 2006, 12:43 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

So scaught, is that why you posted this post also?

that was too easy, wasn't it.

it seems a pretty obvious conclusion to me.

Kevin · Feb 12, 2006, 12:47 PM

I've spoke with Cody. She has plenty of self esteem. I disagree with her here as well, but you don't see me personally attacking her do you?

scaught · Feb 13, 2006, 04:58 PM

Pete isnt here to defend himself from being called a loser. haha.

but whatever. youre probably right. her post infuriated me is all.

Peter · Feb 13, 2006, 05:05 PM

Pete vowed to go clean, sweet - good for him

Peter · Feb 13, 2006, 05:06 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Doherty is a loser. His music and poetry suck. Period. End of story.

like to see you do better :/

Doofy · Feb 13, 2006, 05:20 PM

Originally Posted by Peter

like to see you do better :/

Well... ...let's see. I've never been to prison. That's better. I've been higher up the charts than that moron. That's better. I haven't stooped so low as to be bumping Moss. That's better. I'm not a smackhead. That's better.

That fact that people like you are idolising (or even defending) tossers like Doherty is exactly what's wrong with this country.

nath · Feb 13, 2006, 05:49 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

I've been higher up the charts than that moron.

No.1 album and No.4 single...you've been higher up the charts than that?

Doofy · Feb 13, 2006, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by nath

No.1 album and No.4 single...you've been higher up the charts than that?

Didn't mean albums. But yes, I've hit higher than 4 on the singles a couple of times (production wise).

Peter · Feb 13, 2006, 07:11 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

...I've been higher up the charts than that moron...

oh so you make nice commercial pop music? nice, happy for you.

btw i seriously doubt you've helped produce bans better than the Libertines, i mean come on...

And I dont idolise him, i respect his work.

Kevin · Feb 13, 2006, 07:45 PM

Originally Posted by Peter

btw i seriously doubt you've helped produce bans better than the Libertines, i mean come on...

He can't ban anyone. Only admins can.

::maroma:: · Feb 13, 2006, 07:47 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

I was an addict.

Correction, you are an addict.

Once an addict, always an addict. No matter if you've "kicked it" or not.

nath · Feb 14, 2006, 02:09 AM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Didn't mean albums. But yes, I've hit higher than 4 on the singles a couple of times (production wise).

Impressive. But remember that Stock, Aitken and Waterman can say the same thing.

Cubeoid · Feb 14, 2006, 06:57 AM

I <3 Kate Moss

11011001 · Feb 14, 2006, 11:07 AM

Who is Pete Doherty? Is he in prison? *confused*

I don't know what's wrong with me, but I always pictured Cubeoid, wdlove and Cody Dawg communicating via IRC, or some chat program. It never occurred to me that they might actually use a phone! Furthermore, I don't even know what the point of this post is.. how about the original question?

nath · Feb 14, 2006, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by 11011001

Who is Pete Doherty? Is he in prison? *confused*

Celebrity junky who occasionally plays guitar (badly) and writes poetry (not quite as badly, but nowhere near proficiently).

Probably not worth your time.

Doofy · Feb 14, 2006, 10:12 PM

Originally Posted by Peter

oh so you make nice commercial pop music? nice, happy for you.

Actually I specialise in rock. But when those nice major labels turn up with some work it's stupid to turn them down.

Originally Posted by Peter

btw i seriously doubt you've helped produce bands better than the Libertines, i mean come on...

Since almost every band on the face of the planet is better than that heap of poop, it's not that hard.

But let's put it this way: Dave Stewart (the Eurythmics chappie) has bought me a pizza more than once.

Doofy · Feb 14, 2006, 10:16 PM

Originally Posted by nath

But remember that Stock, Aitken and Waterman can say the same thing.

Dude, you've spoilt it now!

Kevin · Feb 15, 2006, 08:10 AM

Originally Posted by Doofy

But let's put it this way: Dave Stewart (the Eurythmics chappie) has bought me a pizza more than once.

Neat, that guy always came off as "creepy" to me for some reason.

Then so did Annie.