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sam0329 · May 8, 2007, 01:35 PM

hi
just wondering of if the Seagate 7200.10 and Mac Pro problem solved yet? I am looking into a pair of 7200.10 250GB Thanks.

mduell · May 8, 2007, 03:36 PM

Yes, drives with firmware 3.AEE and newer are reportedly fine.

sam0329 · May 8, 2007, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by mduell

Yes, drives with firmware 3.AEE and newer are reportedly fine.

thanks for your reply, but how do I find out when I buy it? Will it written on the harddrive? Thanks

GoCats · May 8, 2007, 04:19 PM

I recently purchased (last week) and benched two Seagate 500GB 7200.10 with a very current firmware, ending in K, but I don't recall the rest. The performance for large files was amazing. Way faster than the Maxtors that I have.

Unfortunately, however, that's never been the problem with Seagates. The problem has been with small files < 16kb. At those file sizes it's dead slow (between 1MB/s - 4MB/s).

You may wonder why that would matter at such small files. I did too.. so I used the drives for a few days. I found that it was noticeable. The vast majority of your system files are less than 16KB, so it was definitely felt. I also felt it a lot when I was transfering over files from one computer to another - even in Firewire disk mode.

So, I ultimately went with the Maxtors which seem to be working fine. Not as fast for very large files > 50MB, but fast enough.

GoCats · May 8, 2007, 04:20 PM

Regarding your other post, yes, the firmware version is printed on the drive.

sam0329 · May 8, 2007, 04:28 PM

that may be an issue for me becuase I do alot of photo editing and transfer files between drives all the time. I guess I may just get some Western Digital 250GB Caviar SE16 instead. I like seagate but it seems too many people having trouble with them already.

GoCats · May 8, 2007, 05:05 PM

Actually, transfering photoshop files would be fine as those are typically very large files. It's more things like cache files or text files or prop files. But images would transfer very fast.

sam0329 · May 8, 2007, 05:06 PM

icic how about use it as a boot drive? will the problem affect the performacne? thx

GoCats · May 8, 2007, 05:15 PM

Yeah, I wouldn't use it as a boot drive, but it would be great for a storage drive.

sam0329 · May 10, 2007, 12:18 PM

I finally brought myself a WD 250GB SE16, all I can say is its alot faster than my seagate 7200.9 that came with the Mac pro. And the WD drive is extremely quite. I m impress.

cgc · May 11, 2007, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by sam0329

I finally brought myself a WD 250GB SE16, all I can say is its alot faster than my seagate 7200.9 that came with the Mac pro. And the WD drive is extremely quite. I m impress.

I received a WD 250GB SE16 and it is fast. Very good drive. It's almost identical to the stock 250GB Apple puts in its MacPro.

sam0329 · May 11, 2007, 09:18 AM

I really do think Seagate still having issue with Mac Pro, I still have the stock Seagate and two more seagate in a RAID setup, still, the WD feel the fastest. I never do any bench mark test, but real world usage telling me WD is faster, atleast for now.

Todd Madson · May 11, 2007, 02:45 PM

I take it this is a Mac Pro only issue or does it effect G5s too>?

sam0329 · May 11, 2007, 02:46 PM

I never own a G5 so I have no idea, sorry.

Big Mac · May 11, 2007, 02:59 PM

Originally Posted by Todd Madson

I take it this is a Mac Pro only issue or does it effect G5s too>?

Yes, G5s have had problems with the 7200.10 too.

cgc · May 11, 2007, 04:53 PM

Originally Posted by sam0329

I really do think Seagate still having issue with Mac Pro, I still have the stock Seagate and two more seagate in a RAID setup, still, the WD feel the fastest. I never do any bench mark test, but real world usage telling me WD is faster, atleast for now.

I ran benchmarks with XBench on the drives (not the best but I don't have access to drive tester) and get about 45-50MB/s on both my WD 250GB drives (one has 8MB cache and the other has 16MB).

Sallyp613 · May 14, 2007, 12:37 PM

I ask you all to rip apart this scenario...
I just picked up a Quicksilver 2002 for my sister..

I'll give you the specs and then give you some questions and ask for suggestions..

The Specs are..

Processor Dual 1GHz PowerPC G4
Frontside Bus 133MHz MaxBus
Cache 256KB on-chip L2 cache per processor
2MB DDR SRAM external L3 cache per processor at 250MHz
Memory 1 GHZ PC133 SDRAM (configured (2) 512MB in 2 of 3 slots.)
Memory Slots Three DIMM slots
Hard Drive 80GB 3.5" 7200RPM Ultra ATA/66 hard drive
2 free bays
Optical Drive 5.25" slot-loading SuperDrive
Ethernet YES
Graphics and Sound
Graphics NVIDIA GeForce4 MX with 64MB DDR SDRAM on a 4x AGP card
Dedicated AGP slot
Monitor Ports ADC port
VGA port
Supports dual monitors
TV In/Out No
Audio In/Out No audio input
3.5mm audio output
Speakers Built-in speaker
Jack for optional Pro Speakers

http://www.everymac.com/systems/appl.../powermac_g4_1...

Ok, now my question is this... I want to add a 2nd Hard drive (>160G or so)
and install OS 9.2.2 on it, which is what my sister is using
for her book publishing project.. She wants to boot into OS 9.2.2 from her own drive and use her apps from 9.2.2. and also store her files on her own drive.. Don't ask!!! She's used to it and comfortable with it (OS 9.2.2).. So, what is the largest sized drive, what is the most reliable brand drive and what specs. of the drive should I be shopping for..? (3.5" or what slot inside..?, I
see the 80 Gb Ultra ATA/66 is in it now, then it could also use scsi, and I see Ultra ATA/100 drives for sale..).. I'm a bit confused and I want to make this simple as possible..

Thank you all in advance,

sally~