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The Final Dakar
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
I meant "block" in terms of "vote against".
Nowadays block means sitting on something and doing nothing.

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Everybody knew shutting down the government was circlejerk.
A circlejerk that put tens of thousands out of work and may have hurt the economy, too. Not exactly harmless.

Who is 'everybody' anyway? Polls showed americans did not support or care for it. Fat lot of difference that made come election time.
     
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Feb 15, 2016, 03:49 PM
 
Nobody cares for bratty children.

This is going to have a colossal impact on government over the next 30 years. Are you sure the shutdown is a sound comparison?
     
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Feb 15, 2016, 03:51 PM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
Nobody cares for bratty children.

This is going to have a colossal impact on government over the next 30 years. Are you sure the shutdown is a sound comparison?
I think we're talking about two different things here. I'm talking impact on the polls come november.
     
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I think we're talking about two different things here. I'm talking impact on the polls come november.
That's what I'm talking about.

I think we'll find the ability of the Democratic machine to foment rage over this issue will be like Hiroshima to the shutdown's wet match.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
That's what I'm talking about.

I think we'll find the ability of the Democratic machine to foment rage over this issue will be like Hiroshima to the shutdown's wet match.
Okay, well in that case this will only have impact for one election. The american electorate has the memory of a gnat.
     
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Feb 15, 2016, 04:16 PM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
I disagree. I can't recall the Right reacting on this scale to someone's death (not even mass murderers). Maybe Bin Laden, but that was more of a universal "woohoo".
Ok, he's not dead yet but..
I can't think of any prominent liberals that have died recently, but I expect the reaction would be a similar sort of hateful glee. After all, we have members on this board who think writing "Hitllery" and "NObama" is the pinnacle of intelligent discourse.
     
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Okay, well in that case this will only have impact for one election. The american electorate has the memory of a gnat.
Ah... but then the Republicans in the House get schlonged as enraged Democrats line up to vote for president.
     
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Ah... but then the Republicans in the House get schlonged as enraged Democrats line up to vote for president.
What's to stop the GOP from doing the same under the threat of a liberal court?

Also, the GOP isn't going to lose the House majority. It would take a shellacking worse than 2014.
     
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Feb 15, 2016, 10:27 PM
 
Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
What's to stop the GOP from doing the same under the threat of a liberal court?

Also, the GOP isn't going to lose the House majority. It would take a shellacking worse than 2014.
This isn't a question of the House getting a majority, it's a question of whether Republicans who hold borderline seats are going to go gentle into that good night for the sake of party unity.

Nothing will stop the GOP using the threat of a liberal court to get turnout. How do you think the Republicans being big cry-babies for 8 months straight will play with moderates and independents?
     
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Feb 16, 2016, 05:22 AM
 
Originally Posted by Cap'n Tightpants View Post
He's to the Left of Sotomayor and slightly to the Right of Ginsburg, IOW squarely in the middle of the Left side of the court.
Fivethirtyeight and their Martin-Quinn index disagrees:

Scalia Was Almost Never The Most Conservative Justice On The Supreme Court | FiveThirtyEight

but then they don't show too much air inbetween, so it may be a question of which judgements you remember and consider significant.
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Feb 16, 2016, 05:31 AM
 
Originally Posted by Paco500 View Post
I can't think of any prominent liberals that have died recently, but I expect the reaction would be a similar sort of hateful glee. After all, we have members on this board who think writing "Hitllery" and "NObama" is the pinnacle of intelligent discourse.
Haters gonna hate. The big difference is who displays this glee. Essentially there's three levels of this:

1) Random nutjobs on the internet
2) People with an audience that want clicks
3) Actual official representatives of a party or other mainstream organization

1 will always happen and is nothing to get concerned about. It is when it goes down the ladder towards more official people that it gets nasty, because anyone on level 2 or 3 of that scale showing glee will encourage a hundred more on the level above.
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Feb 16, 2016, 07:35 AM
 
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3) Actual official representatives of a party or other mainstream organization
Like the time Cruz criticised Carter the day after he announced his cancer diagnosis? Or mocked Biden just after his son died?

I agree, there horrific displays of inhumanity on both sides. It's absurd to pretend that the left is any worse than the right on this.
     
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Feb 16, 2016, 08:24 AM
 
I get a 500 error on that link, but in general I think that it is fine to criticize Carter for things unrelated to his diagnosis, but if he mocked Biden just after his son died, that is over the line.
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Martin-Quinn
Tony "Tiger" Scalia and Notorious R.B.G. are the

First Mutha****as in October

A Martin Quinn production
     
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Feb 16, 2016, 08:42 AM
 
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I get a 500 error on that link, but in general I think that it is fine to criticize Carter for things unrelated to his diagnosis, but if he mocked Biden just after his son died, that is over the line.
Odd- full URL:

Ted Cruz Criticizes Carter Day After Wrenching Talk on Cancer - Bloomberg Politics

I agree it's fine to criticise where it's due- choosing to do so in a public forum the day after an announcement of a diagnosis of brain cancer shows a complete lack of human compassion.
     
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Feb 16, 2016, 08:50 AM
 
Jumping back to Scalia, one honestly needs to be in despot/serial killer territory for me be happy they're dead.
     
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Feb 16, 2016, 11:37 AM
 
I agree, but it is not too uncommon. Richard Stallman was glad that Jobs died because Apple didn't license its code with GPL.
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Feb 16, 2016, 03:32 PM
 
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Tony "Tiger" Scalia and Notorious R.B.G. are the

First Mutha****as in October

A Martin Quinn production
Someone needs to greenlight this, stat.
     
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I agree, but it is not too uncommon. Richard Stallman was glad that Jobs died because Apple didn't license its code with GPL.
This sounds more like trolling.
     
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Feb 16, 2016, 03:54 PM
 
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Jumping back to Scalia, one honestly needs to be in despot/serial killer territory for me be happy they're dead.
I'm sure many see him that way. I'm not one to celebrate anyone's death, no matter how low my opinion of them. I can understand the feeling that there is a chance for society to improve significantly without him in the job but cheering and laughing is sadly lacking in class.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Feb 16, 2016, 03:57 PM
 
Totally didn't occur to me Scalia conspiracy would give Trump a boner.
     
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Feb 16, 2016, 04:05 PM
 
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Fivethirtyeight and their Martin-Quinn index disagrees:

Scalia Was Almost Never The Most Conservative Justice On The Supreme Court | FiveThirtyEight

but then they don't show too much air inbetween, so it may be a question of which judgements you remember and consider significant.
There's something very wrong with their weighting. The Ideological History of the Supreme Court of the U.S. (SCOTUS) - TargetPoint

I have to admit, though, I have no faith in Fivethirtyeight's ability to be neutral, it's always been Leftish.
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Feb 17, 2016, 04:42 AM
 
That is the same Martin-Quinn scores that Fivethirtyeight quotes, except your graph ends in 2007, so you can't see the Justices Obama appointed.
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Feb 17, 2016, 05:20 AM
 
Okay, nevermind then, I'll agree with him apparently being at the median of the USSC (now). However, since still doesn't support the right to keep and bear arms, that's pretty far to the Left compared to the average American citizen (who does support that right). No one who isn't pro-2A will be confirmed. I know my senators are prepared to camp at the capitol until Obama leaves to keep that from happening (having talked with their offices this week).
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Feb 18, 2016, 10:30 PM
 
Obama will not be attending the funeral. He doesn't want to risk getting sprayed with holy water when the casket is blessed.
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Feb 19, 2016, 08:29 AM
 
President LIAR will be golfing. Its gonna be 63 degrees on Saturday.
     
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So, what if Obama throws everyone for a loop and nominates Judge Andrew Napolitano?
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The Dems would filibuster, while praising Obama for being so brave in offering an olive branch.
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If you did not watch it live, you can see the replay on CSPAN.
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The Homily:
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Originally Posted by Paco500 View Post
I can't think of any prominent liberals that have died recently, but I expect the reaction would be a similar sort of hateful glee. After all, we have members on this board who think writing "Hitllery" and "NObama" is the pinnacle of intelligent discourse.

Originally Posted by BadKosh
President LIAR will be golfing. Its gonna be 63 degrees on Saturday.
This made me laugh. At least Hitllery and NObama is remotely clever. "President Liar" is just stupid.

BadKosh, you suck.
     
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BadKosh, you suck.
You'd know, sucking is your forte. You're easily one of the most closed-minded, manipulative, obnoxious posters here.
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Stupid but true.
     
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You make too many assumptions Captain Loosepants, which is something right out of the liberal playbook.
     
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What's to assume? You're a dyed-in-the-wool ideologue and as rigid in your beliefs as any conservative that you ridicule.
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Typical liberal skull duggery from Captain Loosepants.
     
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Crawl back under your bridge.
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Would you like me to say anything to Michael Moore while I'm under the bridge, Captain Loosepants? How about Bad OshKosh?
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You and Ann Coulter could be soulmates.
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You and Ann Coulter could be soulmates.
At least President Liar doesn't want to take all of our guns away, unlike Ann Cooter.

Channeling Bad OshKosh is hard, I guess I should pay closer attention to his style. You have to admit, "President Liar" was not his creative best. He can do better.
     
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The CSPAN junkies have been busy. Now we have video of Biden telling GHW Bush not make any nominations since the political season had begun.
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This isn't a question of the House getting a majority, it's a question of whether Republicans who hold borderline seats are going to go gentle into that good night for the sake of party unity.

Nothing will stop the GOP using the threat of a liberal court to get turnout. How do you think the Republicans being big cry-babies for 8 months straight will play with moderates and independents?
I disagree with your choice of strategy. It won't be cry-babying, it'll be fear-mongering about how a liberal court has the potential to outlawing Christianity (gay marriage was the beginning!), letting men into women's bathrooms, and probably a myriad of other things I haven't thought of but are probably in a Ted Cruz stump speech.
     
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How do you think the Republicans being big cry-babies for 8 months straight will play with moderates and independents?
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I disagree with your choice of strategy. It won't be cry-babying, it'll be fear-mongering about how a liberal court has the potential to outlawing Christianity (gay marriage was the beginning!), letting men into women's bathrooms, and probably a myriad of other things I haven't thought of but are probably in a Ted Cruz stump speech.


Moderates and independents will rally behind the defense of Christendom?
     
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Originally Posted by besson3c View Post
At least President Liar doesn't want to take all of our guns away, unlike Ann Cooter.

Channeling Bad OshKosh is hard, I guess I should pay closer attention to his style. You have to admit, "President Liar" was not his creative best. He can do better.
This is the best YOU CAN DO??? So, did you stop maturing at about 8 years old? That WOULD explain the immaturity, inability to observer the world without the liberal filter, and hand wringing and general whineyness.
     
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Moderates and independents will rally behind the defense of Christendom?
There are no moderates or independents who are also Christian? Who do you think would be most likely to come to the defense of "Christendom?"
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There are no moderates or independents who are also Christian? Who do you think would be most likely to come to the defense of "Christendom?"
Christians who are neither moderate or independent.
     
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Christians who are neither moderate or independent.
Where do you place them on your spectrum?
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Whoops... misunderstood the question!

Stand by...
     
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Where do you place them on your spectrum?
If we're talking about the American political spectrum, a voter for whom the most important issue is further combining religion and policy, I would put on the far-right. This is because that's where the candidates who make it a cornerstone of their platform reside.

On my own spectrum, government intrusion is on the left, and since the result of most of the policies we're talking about would be government intrusion, that's where they sit.
     
 
 
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