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abe · Aug 28, 2007, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by dcmacdaddy

Favorite Gay Man: Probably my friend Stephen. I've known him for over a decade now and even though I no longer in live in DC whenever I go there we hang out and always have a blast.

Favorite Gay Woman: I don't have any lesbian friends (that I know of) so I am going to go with somebody famous, and that is Jodie Foster. She's smart, sexy, subtle, and seductive. (Although, I don't know what it means to have those compliments come from a straight man.)

PS:

to Doofy for the Rob Halford shout-out. I completely forgot he came out in the late 90s.

Beavis & Butt-head: Heh, heh. He said blast. Heh, heh.

Eug · Aug 28, 2007, 12:06 PM

Originally Posted by analogue SPRINKLES

My boyfriend.

OK, that was far too sucky for your usual sarcastic self.

abe · Aug 28, 2007, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

...no, it's because I saw that you were the one who started it and someone would instantly call you a homophobe.

I've never been an Ellen fan. I just can't get into her humor....

Thanks!

That's the ONE thing I don't think anyone would really say about me. I might be many things but they know I'm no homophobe.

abe · Aug 28, 2007, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by MacosNerd

I didn't know people started segregating friends and favorite people by their sexual orientation.

so to go along with Paul W's post we should also have our favorite bigot thread too.

Sorry, no religious discussions in the lounge.

abe · Aug 28, 2007, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by MacosNerd

Yes its completely different.

Only if you WANT it to be different.

abe · Aug 28, 2007, 12:20 PM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Dang. My subtle attempts to subvert this thread have been foiled.

Didn't you know your name has to start with an "a" and end with an "e" to be accused of subverting a thread with a friendly incidental.

abe · Aug 28, 2007, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

And some people also abuse the word to belittle people that have no fear of homosexuals or homosexuality. Their reasons are to belittle such a belief and attempt to shroud it in the idea that such belief is based out of fear, or a phobia, and not a legit reason.

in other words, it's like calling anyone a name. A self defense mechanism.

The very people that dislike say, religious people because of their views on homosexual sex, and the same people they dislike. They just don't realize it.

Tolerance isn't accepting a lifestyle or belief. Tolerance is how you treat those with lifestyles and beliefs that differ from yours.

You don't have to accept that person's beliefs to be tolerant. Just treat them well as you would any other person.

Rumor · Aug 28, 2007, 04:57 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

The rest of you are wicked, evil, brazen, bewitched cuckolds who deserve to suffer the wrath of the Lord's sword.

Still a sword? Figured he would have upgraded by now.

abe · Aug 28, 2007, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by abe

Beavis & Butt-head: Heh, heh. He said blast. Heh, heh.

Kevin · Aug 29, 2007, 06:20 AM

Originally Posted by Rumor

Still a sword? Figured he would have upgraded by now.

Don't have to. Not like your gonna block it with a kick.

abe · Aug 29, 2007, 12:44 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Don't have to. Not like your gonna block it with a kick.

Some other Gay men I like or admire.

Elton John. Lou Reed. Merv Griffin (R.I.P.). Christopher Hayes. B.D. Wong, actor (on "Law & Order"). Mr. Sulu.

Some other Lesbians I like or admire.

Eleanor Roosevelt (R.I.P.). K.D. Lang. Martina Navratilova. Annie Liebovitz. Amanda Bearse, director and actress (Marcie on Married...With Children).

Graviton · Aug 29, 2007, 01:22 PM

Favourite gay man

Favourite Lesbian

Jawbone54 · Aug 29, 2007, 01:56 PM

Since when did Mr. Sulu look like Boy George?

Jawbone54 · Aug 29, 2007, 01:57 PM

I also felt this thread couldn't go on without...

Dakarʒ · Aug 29, 2007, 02:06 PM

You can totally tell Chekov is trying his hardest not to check him out.

Jawbone54 · Aug 29, 2007, 02:17 PM

Just where is that right hand going?

abe · Aug 30, 2007, 02:07 AM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

Since when did Mr. Sulu look like Boy George?

Director: We see you stifling the smile, Chekov!

abe · Aug 30, 2007, 02:12 AM

Originally Posted by Jawbone54

I also felt this thread couldn't go on without...

What a phony prosthetic nose! That's like padding one's briefs with a sock.

"Hello there, sailor. Guess where this shnozz has been?"

Kevin · Sep 2, 2007, 07:19 AM

He was ok at that part. But he ruined Magneto IMHO.

abe · Sep 2, 2007, 02:51 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

He was ok at that part. But he ruined Magneto IMHO.

I have absolutely no interest in seeing any of the LOTR or Harry Potter films. But I don't bear any ill will toward those who love or like them.

I'd say that's mighty white of me.

Chuckit · Sep 2, 2007, 03:02 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

He was ok at that part. But he ruined Magneto IMHO.

Seriously? I thought he did a great job there. What didn't you like?

turtle777 · Sep 2, 2007, 06:12 PM

Congrat's, abe, to your gayest(*) thread this week.

-t

(*) pejorative non-sexualized usage, for those who don't get it.

abe · 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Congrat's, abe, to your gayest(*) thread this week.

-t

(*) pejorative non-sexualized usage, for those who don't get it.

Wow! Going out of your way to offend gays. Finally coming out of your shell to reveal your truest feelings, eh?

Using "gay" as a pejorative and then trying to deny meaning any harm by it is like Imus calling the basketball girls, "nappy headed ho's" and then expecting to walk away from it.

No, actually what you did is worse.

It's using a word that defines people's sexual preference as an insult.

Way to go.

Maybe it's time to crawl back in the shell.

But before you do here's a clue...

It's NOT OK to use something that people can't change about themselves as a pejorative.

turtle777 · Sep 2, 2007, 11:06 PM

Originally Posted by abe

Wow! Going out of your way to offend gays. Finally coming out of your shell to reveal your truest feelings, eh?

Using "gay" as a pejorative and then trying to deny meaning any harm by it is like Imus calling the basketball girls, "nappy headed ho's" and then expecting to walk away from it.

No, actually what you did is worse.

It's using a word that defines people's sexual preference as an insult.

Way to go.

Maybe it's time to crawl back in the shell.

But before you do here's a clue...

It's NOT OK to use something that people can't change about themselves as a pejorative.

Thanks for emphasising my point with a completely asinine and gay post.

-t

abe · Sep 2, 2007, 11:55 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Thanks for emphasising my point with a completely asinine and gay post.

-t

Ahhh! You are taking the Michael Richards route. When in trouble you further emphasize the offense.

Nice, you friggin homophobe!

turtle777 · Sep 2, 2007, 11:58 PM

Originally Posted by abe

Ahhh! You are taking the Michael Richards route. When in trouble you further emphasize the offense.

Nice, you friggin homophobe!

You are welcome.

-t

abe · Sep 3, 2007, 12:40 AM

Originally Posted by turtle777

You are welcome.

-t

Gay posters, please weigh in on this.

turtle777 · Sep 3, 2007, 02:47 AM

Originally Posted by abe

Gay posters, please weigh in on this.

Sure, (g)aybe !

-t

abe · Sep 3, 2007, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Sure, (g)aybe !

-t

You do clever the same way Zune does Mp3 players.

turtle777 · Sep 3, 2007, 03:57 AM

Originally Posted by abe

You do clever the same way Zune does Mp3 players.

Quoted for retention purposes.

-t

Kevin · Sep 3, 2007, 09:40 AM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Seriously? I thought he did a great job there. What didn't you like?

He was too fem acting for the part. I am not saying this because he is gay. He did a WONDERFUL job as the wizard.. and many other parts I have seem him in. He just didn't convince me he was Magneto. Maybe a Magneto that was well pampered...

Oisín · Sep 3, 2007, 11:37 AM

Gay posters, please weigh in on this.

All right: there was nothing homophobic about the chelonian’s joke, as far as I see it.

abe · Sep 3, 2007, 01:31 PM

Originally Posted by Oisín

All right: there was nothing homophobic about the chelonian’s joke, as far as I see it.

Ok. Then, as you are the "King for the Gays" I have your permission to use the word "Gay" as an insult without any of your subjects' panties being bunched or soiled?

turtle777 · Sep 3, 2007, 01:33 PM

Abe, how about YOU rethinkk YOUR position.

Starting a thread like this cries "homophobe" to me. Just saying.

-t

abe · Sep 3, 2007, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Abe, how about YOU rethinkk YOUR position.

Starting a thread like this cries "homophobe" to me. Just saying.

-t

Nope. Try substituting any other socio-economic-gender-political-nationality-religious-physical characteristic or occupation name or description for the word "Gay" in the thread title and you'll see there's nothing homophobic about it.

Kevin · Sep 3, 2007, 01:40 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

Starting a thread like this cries "homophobe" to me. Just saying.

turtle777 · Sep 3, 2007, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by abe

Nope. Try substituting any other socio-economic-gender-political-nationality-religious-physical characteristic or occupation name or description for the word "Gay" in the thread title and you'll see there's nothing homophobic about it.

You're not making any sense.

-t

Salty · Sep 3, 2007, 01:45 PM

Favourite Gay: Josh, the first guy I ever liked... cute as a button too...

Favourite Lesbian: to quote south partk, "Who cares about ****in dykes!"

Seriously I don't have any lesbians I'm really close with. A few bi women but that's it.

Kevin · Sep 3, 2007, 01:47 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

You're not making any sense.

I understood it.

turtle777 · Sep 3, 2007, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

I understood it.

I guess so. Maybe your more tuned into "abe" than me.

-t

Kevin · Sep 3, 2007, 01:50 PM

I've taken my party to the limit.

Oisín · Sep 3, 2007, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by abe

Ok. Then, as you are the "King for the Gays" I have your permission to use the word "Gay" as an insult without any of your subjects' panties being bunched or soiled?

Being named royalty is always nice, but I’m not sure I’d much like to be representative of this particular bunch.

I’m not saying there aren’t people (straight or gay) who wouldn’t be offended by it. There are people from any group who are more easily offended than others. But to me, personally, it didn’t seem homophobic. I got the inference, I got the joke, and I got that it was a joke, using the word ‘gay’ sarcastically in order to claim that the thread topic/title was the homophobic part (which I don’t think it necessarily is, but it can be construed as such quite easily).

I’m fairly used to ‘gay’ being used as a generic term for ‘sucky’, though, and I’m not really offended by it, no more than a vacuum cleaner should be offended by hearing people saying that something ‘sucks’. It’s a very odd development of a word that once meant only ‘jolly’, to be sure; but that’s beside the point. It bothers me just a little bit when I hear people using ‘gay’ pejoratively in what we might call an ‘earnest’ way, though not to the point of actual offence.

However, a lot of times when I hear someone saying, “That’s so gay!”, they’re actually joking with it, using it to the exact opposite effect (like turtle here), in order to make fun of someone else that, in their opinion, might well use it ‘earnestly’. And I really can’t be bothered by that, since these people are actually agreeing with me in the message they’re intending to send.

turtle777 · Sep 3, 2007, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

I've taken my party to the limit.

-t

Salty · Sep 3, 2007, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by abe

You do clever the same way Zune does Mp3 players.

Ooo you been bitch slapped GEEK STYLE!

abe · Sep 3, 2007, 01:53 PM

Originally Posted by turtle777

You're not making any sense.

-t

Originally Posted by turtle777

Abe, how about YOU rethinkk YOUR position.

Starting a thread like this cries "homophobe" to me. Just saying.

Originally Posted by abe

Nope. Try substituting any other socio-economic-gender-political-nationality-religious-physical characteristic or occupation name or description for the word "Gay" in the thread title and you'll see there's nothing homophobic about it.

Who's Your Favorite fill in the blank Man & Woman?

Socio-Unmarried
Economic-Rich
Gender-Metrosexual
Political-Conservative
Nationality-British
Religious-Christian
Physical Characteristic-Handsome
Occupation-Record Company Owner

Substitute any of the descriptors highlighted in bold and you'll see that there is nothing demeaning or phobic about asking, for example, "Who's Your Favorite British Man & Woman?"

turtle777 · Sep 3, 2007, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by abe

Who's Your Favorite fill in the blank Man & Woman?

Socio-Unmarried
Economic-Rich
Gender-Metrosexual
Political-Conservative
Nationality-British
Religious-Christian
Physical Characteristic-Handsome
Occupation-Record Company Owner

Substitute any of the descriptors highlighted in bold and you'll see that there is nothing demeaning or phobic about asking, for example, "Who's Your Favorite British Man & Woman?"

O'Rly ?

And why did you ask about favorite gays, instead of ANY of the other things ?

You're not helping your case. And you can't fake genuine interest.

-t

abe · Sep 3, 2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by Salty

Favourite Gay: Josh, the first guy I ever liked... cute as a button too...

Favourite Lesbian: to quote south partk, "Who cares about ****in dykes!"

Seriously I don't have any lesbians I'm really close with. A few bi women but that's it.

I was looking online for a list of famous lesbians and there aren't nearly as many as there are famous Gay guys.

Kevin · Sep 3, 2007, 02:01 PM

Why NOT ask about gays? As there is a higher than average gay population in this forum than most I am betting.

If you have to go LOOK and WONDER if something is offensive, it probably isn't.

Though some people LOOK to be offended...

I know had abe said "Who is your favorite Christian" I'd not be offended....

Doofy · Sep 3, 2007, 02:05 PM

Originally Posted by abe

Who's Your Favorite fill in the blank Man & Woman?

Socio-Unmarried
Economic-Rich
Gender-Metrosexual
Political-Conservative
Nationality-British
Religious-Christian
Physical Characteristic-Handsome
Occupation-Record Company Owner

That's easy. The answer to all of those questions except "metrosexual" and "record company owner" is "Doofy".

KeriVit · Sep 3, 2007, 02:06 PM

Originally Posted by Kevin

Why NOT ask about gays? As there is a higher than average gay population in this forum than most I am betting.

If you have to go LOOK and WONDER if something is offensive, it probably isn't.

Though some people LOOK to be offended...

I know had abe said "Who is your favorite Christian" I'd not be offended....

I concur.