[andi*pandi]

Originally Posted by gumby5647

has anyone else noticed that the cylons each have an important role in society?

Simon: A doctor
Brother Calvin: Priest
Lucy Lawless: Journalist
Boomer: Military
Six: Seductress
Doral: PR Rep/Politics
Leobin: um...*shrug* business man?

So using this logic, can we assume that other cylons play other important roles in their society?

that list sounds familiar... all they need now is a pilot, a captain, and a crazy girl. but thanks for rounding up the "known" cyclon models, I've been wondering.

Great finale, love the year jump--why waste the time showing the settling, when you can show the results so much more powerfully!

Helo is onship with Adama... where is boomer, do you suppose?

[I Bent My Wookiee]

Originally Posted by awcopus

I would rather they really take their time and make the next season as good or better than this one. It seems like so much on tv is rushed out the door to fill the space between commercials.

October will be here before we know it. Look how fast a year went by in that last episode.

Meanwhile, there's another half season of Lost.

"Battlestar Galactica begins shooting its third season in April in Vancouver, Canada."

So in other words even though it will be finished early they will shelve it till October.

[Myriad]

I just want to know if we're going to have to deal with fat Apollo for all of season 3. Lee having put on a little pudge is good for illustrating what the general mood was above New Caprica, but there's no way in hell I can take him seriously as a character if he walks around with the fat man's gait continually. Here's hoping the padded uniform gets done away with not too far into season 3.

[Kr0nos]

I really like the soundtrack to this show. Is it available somewhere? Maybe on BT?

N/M. Found it.

[RAILhead]

Originally Posted by awcopus

Meanwhile, there's another half season of Lost.

And don't forget about Prison Break, either. I believe it starts back up this coming Monday, and I've really enjoyed it.

[Eug Wanker]

I never got into Lost.

24 is a good show. I find it ironic that the main star is Canadian as are many of the guest stars, given that the show is sort of a Rah Rah USA type show (and it's filmed in the USA). I wonder if Kiefer Sutherland has pushed some sort of Canadian actor affirmative action thing here.

Originally Posted by Kr0nos

I really like the soundtrack to this show. Is it available somewhere? Maybe on BT?

Do you like Korean soap operas?

[andreas_g4]

Well, I would describe my two fav shows (the only ones I watch) as like 24 is the most thrilling, BSG the most interesting show. I mean, it just doesn't get more thrilling than 24. BUT, in BSG, you have great character development, and more diverse story lines. Both shows have a different approach to entertain, both are top notch in their respective area. IMHO.

Can't wait for the 3rd season!

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by andreas_g4

Well, I would describe my two fav shows (the only ones I watch) as like 24 is the most thrilling, BSG the most interesting show. I mean, it just doesn't get more thrilling than 24. BUT, in BSG, you have great character development, and more diverse story lines. Both shows have a different approach to entertain, both are top notch in their respective area. IMHO.

Can't wait for the 3rd season!

I agree. BSG has much more of a universe () in which everything exists which can be explored in interesting ways, whereas 24 is a 43 minute adrenaline rush every week. Very different approaches.

The one thing in common about the approach of both shows though is the ability of the writers to kill off significant characters on a regular basis. Keeps us guessing.

[I Bent My Wookiee]

Cliffhanger for season 3.... Adam's dead son is a Cylon!

[Eriamjh]

Originally Posted by Myriad

I just want to know if we're going to have to deal with fat Apollo for all of season 3. Lee having put on a little pudge is good for illustrating what the general mood was above New Caprica, but there's no way in hell I can take him seriously as a character if he walks around with the fat man's gait continually. Here's hoping the padded uniform gets done away with not too far into season 3.

Expect it to slowly go away. Obviously, food is abundant on the planet, but if the fleet has to keep its distance while determining what to do next, he won't be eating much!

[I Bent My Wookiee]

That fat makeup is expensive and time consuming. I would think they would want to get rid of it as soon as possible.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by RAILhead

And don't forget about Prison Break, either. I believe it starts back up this coming Monday, and I've really enjoyed it.

I'm boycotting Prison Break after the Arrested Development debacle.

[awcopus]

Originally Posted by I Bent My Wookiee

"Battlestar Galactica begins shooting its third season in April in Vancouver, Canada."

So in other words even though it will be finished early they will shelve it till October.

As a professional video producer and filmmaker, I'm always amazed at how much time is needed to complete projects that do not even begin to be as complicated as BSG.

They start shooting what they've already got written in April, but they'll be doing more writing and more shooting throughout the Summer, not to mention post-production special effects and audio work... reshooting, re-editing... art direction for multiple sets... color-correcting and sound editing and voice-overs....

It's not like they start with a perfect script, shoot scenes in order, compile scenes like building blocks and then output it for broadcast and iTunes.

This is a huge production. A 100 minute theatrical release can take 6 months to produce. BSG's first half of the season is about 450 minutes long, with far more overlapping stories and continuity issues than a typical movie, and they have about the same time-frame within which to pull it off. It sucks to wait, but believe me, they're going to be busting hump all the way until October.

[I Bent My Wookiee]

Originally Posted by awcopus

As a professional video producer and filmmaker, I'm always amazed at how much time is needed to complete projects that do not even begin to be as complicated as BSG.

They start shooting what they've already got written in April, but they'll be doing more writing and more shooting throughout the Summer, not to mention post-production special effects and audio work... reshooting, re-editing... art direction for multiple sets... color-correcting and sound editing and voice-overs....

It's not like they start with a perfect script, shoot scenes in order, compile scenes like building blocks and then output it for broadcast and iTunes.

This is a huge production. A 100 minute theatrical release can take 6 months to produce. BSG's first half of the season is about 450 minutes long, with far more overlapping stories and continuity issues than a typical movie, and they have about the same time-frame within which to pull it off. It sucks to wait, but believe me, they're going to be busting hump all the way until October.

Movies, yes. TV shows. NO. Even shows like star trek had much higher turn around times. The special effects department had a week to come up with a new ship design and all sets needed.

Star Trek's were all filmed within 5 days, post production was about 3 months.

[JHromadka]

Who was the guy that was looking for Kara at the end of the episode? Was it that Cylon that was inside that they found inside the weapons depot?

[Eug Wanker]

Originally Posted by JHromadka

Who was the guy that was looking for Kara at the end of the episode? Was it that Cylon that was inside that they found inside the weapons depot?

Yes. His name is Leoben Conoy.



Well, it's likely not the same Cylon, but one of the copies.

[I Bent My Wookiee]

Originally Posted by JHromadka

Who was the guy that was looking for Kara at the end of the episode? Was it that Cylon that was inside that they found inside the weapons depot?

More importantly the same model starbuck tortured. Heck it could be the same one resurrected, that will be interesting..

[powerbook867]

As much as it pains me to wait till October, the turn around is still 10x better than waiting 2 years for Sopranos episodes!!

[gumby5647]

Originally Posted by Corpse of Chewbacca

What the hell am I going to do until October?

What they hell are they thinking not making new eps until October?

What the HELL?

it has something to do with lining up the start of Season 3 for everybody (US, UK, CAD) Apparently each country had a different start date, which in turn lead to more illegal downloading....

[Chloe]

Ron Moore (writer and executive producer of BSG) appeared at a convention this weekend and was asked about the move to October for the debut of Season 3. He said it was to allow for more production time. As for where Sharon was, he was not telling; only that that will be dealt with in season 3.

For the person who wanted the BSG soundtrack, it is available on amazon (and lots of other places, I'd imagine) and you want the one by Bear McCreary. I agree that it's a great soundtrack. Here's the link:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00...Fencoding=UTF8

[Dark Helmet]

Ah ha! Just like I guessed a year ago... they are making a spin off! It takes place 50 years ago!!!!

http://www.zap2it.com/tv/news/zap-sc...news-headlines

[JoshuaZ]

Spin offs.... good lord... prequels. That always goes over well...

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

Spin offs.... good lord... prequels. That always goes over well...

They sometimes work well. Look at DS9, it was the best of the series.

I think this is a great thing to do with BSG. I mean they will show the lead up creating the first cylon, possibly the war and hopefully the BSG when she is a state of the art ship.

[SpaceMonkey]

"Caprica" will be set more than 50 years prior to the events of "Battlestar Galactica" and focus on the lives of two families -- the Adamas (ancestors of future Galactica commander William) and the Graystones. Humankind's Twelve Colonies are at peace and on the verge of a technological breakthrough: the first Cylon.

As "Battlestar Galactica" is about a lot more than space battles, "Caprica" will be as much family drama as sci-fi tale. Remi Aubuchon ("The Lyon's Den," "24") is writing the pilot script; "Galactica" veterans Ronald D. Moore and David Eick will executive produce it.

OMG they are making "The O.C." in space.

[meelk]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

OMG they are making "The O.C." in space.

exactly. how suck.

This is what I've felt about Battlestar for awhile now, that its more soap than sci-fi, and Caprica is just driving my point home.

At least theres still Stargate.

[RAILhead]

Uhh...you don't have to watch "Caprica" if you don't want to. One doesn't mean the other will start to suck, necessarily.

[meelk]

Originally Posted by RAILhead

Uhh...you don't have to watch "Caprica" if you don't want to. One doesn't mean the other will start to suck, necessarily.

Battlestar has been sucking since season 1 ended.

[Lateralus]

I'm pretty optimistic about seeing BSG get branched off. In my opinion, the franchise (in its reimagined form, anyways) is young enough to not run the risk of having a new venture damage it.

It's basically the opposite of Enterprise, which was given the stupid role of essentially summarizing the hundreds of years of Star Trek history that had been panned out over 35 years of television, and then not following the timeline to a T.

The new BSG really can't be tied to the original. The basic idea, the ships, the names... they're all the same. But it's its own entity, with only a few years of story behind it. Which leaves the door pretty much wide open creatively for a few new additions to the family.

That, and a I trust Ron Moore to not let any Suck on board.

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by I Bent My Wookiee

Movies, yes. TV shows. NO. Even shows like star trek had much higher turn around times. The special effects department had a week to come up with a new ship design and all sets needed.

Star Trek's were all filmed within 5 days, post production was about 3 months.

That's true only because the majority of each episode was shot in existing sets. At most, they usually only had to create one or two new sets for the alien planet or ship of the week. For season 3 of BSG, a large part of the story will take place an entirely new planet. I suspect that creating a new group of sets and scouting appropriate outdoor shooting locations is contributing to the delay in addition to all of the other production issues.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey

For season 3 of BSG, a large part of the story will take place an entirely new planet..

Depends which planet you're referring to. Moore has said New Caprica will only be around for about five episodes. However, we do get the Cylon homeworld.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by meelk

exactly. how suck.

This is what I've felt about Battlestar for awhile now, that its more soap than sci-fi, and Caprica is just driving my point home.

At least theres still Stargate.

I find it baffling how you can enjoy a low production dumb downed show like star Gate and not like BSG.

[goMac]

Apparently having a consistent plot makes a show a soap.

[Chuckit]

Originally Posted by meelk

Battlestar has been sucking since season 1 ended.

I thought the opposite. The show started out dumb as sin and has gradually picked up steam to actually become pretty darn good. And I'd say it's actually less soapy now.

[mrtew]

Originally Posted by Chuckit

I thought the opposite. The show started out dumb as sin and has gradually picked up steam to actually become pretty darn good. And I'd say it's actually less soapy now.

I thought the opposite of both of you! I thought it started out GREAT.... truly brilliant and amazing and has stayed the same, almost getting better if possible... (with a few boring episodes here and there). Most people still reading this forum probably agree with me, I imagine.

[Visnaut]

Originally Posted by mrtew

Most people still reading this forum probably agree with me, I imagine.

I had a few minor nitpicks with this season, such as a few boring episodes like Black Market, and Roslin's rather quick recovery. But overall, I find it to be the best sci-fi on TV.

It's great that they're doing a spin-off too. The back story has a lot of potential. It'll be interesting if they touch on topics such as how the cylons came to believe in a God, what their motivations were from the beginning, and how that contrasts to the "current", flesh and blood equivalents. It would be interesting to see how and why they decided to become like their creators. A lot of material ripe for the picking.

I'm curious as to what the whole look of the show will be, considering the current look is very contemporary in the way they dress and act, but when they depict 50 years into the past, it's still a space-faring society that is far more advanced than ours, so the retro look can only carry so far.

All in all, I'm glad we'll be seeing more of the Galactica universe.

[SpaceMonkey]

Originally Posted by Visnaut

I'm curious as to what the whole look of the show will be, considering the current look is very contemporary in the way they dress and act, but when they depict 50 years into the past, it's still a space-faring society that is far more advanced than ours, so the retro look can only carry so far.

If anything, I think it will look more futuristic. Remember, they deliberately designed Galactica to be "low-tech" for security purposes. Since this will take place before the Cylons are created, then they don't have to worry about such things.

Maybe they'll even have cell phones!

[Dark Helmet]

OK I don't want to get too geeky here but I read this line and I sounded very much like what is going on in BSG about all of this has happened before and will happen again along with we play different roles each time....

"However, this new theory suggests that there's a continuous cycle of universes, with each a repeat of the last, but not an exact replica."

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/4974134.stm

[Stradlater]

More Battlestar Simpsonica here.*

* Some images may contain spoilers if you're not caught up.

[Chuckit]

That was unexpectedly hilarious.

[powerbook867]

I almost spit up lunch!!! Battlestar Simpsonica is awesome!

[mrtew]

Those are funny!!!!

Does anyone know when the DVD's for Season 2 part 2 come out???

[JoshuaZ]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

They sometimes work well. Look at DS9, it was the best of the series.

I think this is a great thing to do with BSG. I mean they will show the lead up creating the first cylon, possibly the war and hopefully the BSG when she is a state of the art ship.

I enjoyed DS9, but it took like 3 seasons before it took off. The early eps are kind of painful to watch. Prequels are always tough to write. Look at Enterprise and Star Wars. You're limited because things HAVE to happen.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by JoshuaZ

I enjoyed DS9, but it took like 3 seasons before it took off. The early eps are kind of painful to watch. Prequels are always tough to write. Look at Enterprise and Star Wars. You're limited because things HAVE to happen.

I thought DS9 was pretty darn good by the end of season 1. It did pick up a lot when they brought in the dominion though.

I looooved the finale because it was so depressing.

[OreoCookie]

I agree, the first season was very interesting. I thought they were very daring through the first season, e. g. having two women kiss (which is something I don't remember seeing on other television shows from the States at that time). I liked them, they were of a different style, though. Less overarching storyline, more of a episode-by-episode thing like TNG. Some of the things I particularly enjoyed during the first three seasons: Odo was morphing and shapeshifting a lot more than later on, there were tons of funny dialogs between Quark and the rest of the crew, the list goes on.

[AppleJockey]

Originally Posted by Dark Helmet

I thought DS9 was pretty darn good by the end of season 1. It did pick up a lot when they brought in the dominion though.

I looooved the finale because it was so depressing.

The simple fact we are in a BSG thread and discussing DS9(years after)
speaks volumes.



anyhow

Why must we wait till november?

[Lateralus]

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

I agree, the first season was very interesting. I thought they were very daring through the first season, e. g. having two women kiss...

That was Rejoined, and it was season four.

[OreoCookie]

Originally Posted by AppleJockey

Why must we wait till november?

I thought it was October, wasn't it?

[OreoCookie]

Originally Posted by Lateralus

That was Rejoined, and it was season four.

Hmmm, it felt earlier than that. But it's been a while since I have watched DS9 … 

[Dark Helmet]

Originally Posted by Lateralus

That was Rejoined, and it was season four.

A couple notes of interest about that episode.

The chick that Dax kisses is the same actress who played the borg queen in all Voyager episodes but the finale.

When they kiss I always cringe as when they pull away there is this big string of spit connecting their lips

[AppleJockey]

Originally Posted by OreoCookie

I thought it was October, wasn't it?

http://www.tvfodder.com/battlestar/a...ctober_p.shtml

yup
you are right.
still a much longer wait than the Stargates