[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

"The director of research for the American Family Association (AFA) says parents need to be on the lookout for a new cable network designed for homosexuals.

Now they are taking their activism a step further to indoctrinate our children through a special gay network that will portray homosexual in a positive, appealing way, legitimizing the homosexual lifestyle for children in millions of American homes," Crouse says. "This is a sad day for America's children. LOGO is another assault on our children's innocence.

"I think maybe initially there will be an attempt to dampen that kind of material -- but they are going to show homosexual films," he explains. "There will be, for example, scenes of men kissing men and women kissing women, even if it's not sexually explicit."

http://headlines.agapepress.org/archive/6/302005b.asp

[kmkkid]

Bah, the pride network sucks anyways.

[xenu]

It's funny how organisations with names like "Family Association" never seem to represent real families.

Real families know about the off button.

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by xenu

It's funny how organisations with names like "Family Association" never seem to represent real families.

Real families know about the off button.

Real families should also teach love and acceptance.

Why are these people always living in a state of fear?

[sek929]

Because you gays are working 18 hour shifts to create weapons of mass fabulousness.

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by sek929

Because you gays are working 18 hour shifts to create weapons of mass fabulousness.

Smooth.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

Why are these people always living in a state of fear?

Maybe for the same reason you hate Christians and feel threatened by them?

[wataru]

Originally Posted by xenu

It's funny how organisations with names like "Family Association" never seem to represent real families.

Real families know about the off button.

I really hate how the term "family values" has been coopted by the Right to mean "neoconservative agenda." I don't know any families who subscribe to those so-called family values anymore.

[MindFad]

Gays'r in duh TeeVee now!?11

[Link]

Kids can wait until they're 18 to exercise their sexual preference.

[xenu]

Originally Posted by sek929

Because you gays are working 18 hour shifts to create weapons of mass fabulousness.

Nicely said.

[loki74]

Look, we can be accepting of peoples differences. I mean, as long as you let me be *not* "fabulous," you can be as "fabulous" as you like.

All the same, it is not the normal functionality of the human body. OBVIOUSLY like all other sexually reproductive creatures on this planet, humans work like this: Man + Woman = Child. Its nature. To try to assert that homosuxuality is natural is to lie. Out. RIght. Lie. Its not.

Like I said we can be accepting of these people, but that does not make what they do natural. Heterosexuality is natural, and that is a fact. Lets not lie to our children for the sake of "political correctness."

[Wiskedjak]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

Now they are taking their activism a step further to indoctrinate our children through a special gay network that will portray homosexual in a positive, appealing way, legitimizing the homosexual lifestyle for children in millions of American homes," Crouse says. "This is a sad day for America's children. LOGO is another assault on our children's innocence.

[Kevin]

Oh come on, as if the TV isn't one big brain washing BOOB TUBE.

The South Park "Stupid Whore" Episode pretty much hit it dead on.

Not saying that there isn't ever anything good on the "boob tube"

But get away from it for a month .

Then come back, watch it. You'll notice it a bit more.

The obvious "BUY ME YOU NEED ME" "ACT LIKE A DRUNKEN SLUT, YOU'LL BE POPULAR"

They are all trying to sell the viewers an image. If you don't think the TV changes culture, I don't know what to tell you.

When talking to people it's also easy to point out the regular TV watchers.

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by loki74

Look, we can be accepting of peoples differences. I mean, as long as you let me be *not* "fabulous," you can be as "fabulous" as you like.

All the same, it is not the normal functionality of the human body. OBVIOUSLY like all other sexually reproductive creatures on this planet, humans work like this: Man + Woman = Child. Its nature. To try to assert that homosuxuality is natural is to lie. Out. RIght. Lie. Its not.

Like I said we can be accepting of these people, but that does not make what they do natural. Heterosexuality is natural, and that is a fact. Lets not lie to our children for the sake of "political correctness."

So same rules apply to straight couples who have anal sex?

[Warung]

Originally Posted by loki74

To try to assert that homosuxuality is natural is to lie. Out. RIght. Lie.

What makes it "unnatural"? That procreation isn't involved? That's a f*cking joke.

Homosexuality (unlike religion for example) is as "natural" as heterosexuality, since it doesn't need to be taught (nature vs. nurture)

[Kevin]

I don't care what people do. I certainly wouldn't want to see ANYONE on TV promoting anal sex.

Could you imagine that Cagney and Lacey episode?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Warung

Homosexuality (unlike religion for example) is as "natural" as heterosexuality, since it doesn't need to be taught (nature vs. nurture)

That's a lot of assuming.

[Warung]

Originally Posted by Kevin

That's a lot of assuming.

Nope, scientifically proven and acknowledged over and over again. The study of cultural anthropology isn't anything new and is an accredited science.

People without the prior knowledge of the "act" of homosexuality have developed same-sex prefferences throughout history.

[loki74]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

So same rules apply to straight couples who have anal sex?

Totally.

Warung: whether conception is involved or not... PLEASE tell me you can add two and two.

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by Warung

What makes it "unnatural"? That procreation isn't involved? That's a f*cking joke.

Homosexuality (unlike religion for example) is as "natural" as heterosexuality, since it doesn't need to be taught (nature vs. nurture)

not to mention animals can be homosexual.

Religion isn't "natural" as it is taught.

[Warung]

Originally Posted by Kevin

I don't care what people do. I certainly wouldn't want to see ANYONE on TV promoting anal sex.

How about same sex blow-jobs? Would that be okay?

[Warung]

Originally Posted by loki74

whether conception is involved or not... PLEASE tell me you can add two and two.

WTF does that have to do with anything?

I just gave an example of why "homosexuality" is something completely natural in a specific (nature vs. nurture) context.

[kmkkid]

I fail to see how a gay channel is going to hurt anyone. Don't like it? Don't watch it. Simple. Don't want your kids watching it? Block it. Simple.

Hell, Queer as Folk is as good as any heterosexual soap opera. In fact, better.

[budster101]

Yeah, Homos don't need to be taught to be homos.... neither do other people with natural born unatural sexual appetites... Same sex is just so au-natural.

Look around you in nature. You see animals buttflucking each other left and right, if they do it, it must be ok for us humans to do it. Right?

The vegetarians say, we humans live by a higher standard and should choose to not eat meat, so why can't you gays choose to not eat out each other's as.sholes, and other various buttplugging activities?

I've heard that vegetarians often sneak meat now and then... is it also true for homosexuals to dabble into the forbidden fruit? Come on, you can admit it, you want taco instead of a hotdog now and then right?

Myself, I've never wanted a hotdog, not even on the down-low, I am a life-long fan of tacos.

So, why is it a sad day for America's children? Oh, right, I remember, this was just another conservative/religous/if/you/don't/think/like/the/gay/militants/ than you must be against familia?.... rrrriiiiiigggghhht.

Gays are just so pro-family.

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by Warung

How about same sex blow-jobs? Would that be okay?

What in the hell non-porn TV show PROMOTES anal sex.

This must be the average IQ of the idiots worried over a gay tv show. Remember the fuss they made over sponge bob?

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by budster101

Gays are just so pro-family.

The last research I saw showed that children of same sex couples were more well rounded and emotionally stable then hetro couples.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Warung

Nope, scientifically proven and acknowledged over and over again. The study of cultural anthropology isn't anything new and is an accredited science.

People without the prior knowledge of the "act" of homosexuality have developed same-sex prefferences throughout history.

I wasn't talking about homosexuality.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

Religion isn't "natural" as it is taught.

Religion, as in man made? Sure.

Animals eat their young, and their own feces.

When you have to use an animal to justify your actions. You have already lost.

Originally Posted by kmkkid

it? Don't watch it. Simple. Don't want your kids watching it? Block it. Simple.

B I N G O

You shouldn't worry about your kids watching it. If you know what your kids are doing.

This is nothing but laziness. And parents using the boob tube as a baby sitter.

[kmkkid]

Originally Posted by budster101

Yeah, Homos don't need to be taught to be homos.... neither do other people with natural born unatural sexual appetites... Same sex is just so au-natural.

Look around you in nature. You see animals buttflucking each other left and right, if they do it, it must be ok for us humans to do it. Right?

The vegetarians say, we humans live by a higher standard and should choose to not eat meat, so why can't you gays choose to not eat out each other's as.sholes, and other various buttplugging activities?

I've heard that vegetarians often sneak meat now and then... is it also true for homosexuals to dabble into the forbidden fruit? Come on, you can admit it, you want taco instead of a hotdog now and then right?

Myself, I've never wanted a hotdog, not even on the down-low, I am a life-long fan of tacos.

So, why is it a sad day for America's children? Oh, right, I remember, this was just another conservative/religous/if/you/don't/think/like/the/gay/militants/ than you must be against familia?.... rrrriiiiiigggghhht.

Gays are just so pro-family.

I don't even know where to begin.



So I won't.

[kmkkid]

I will however say I've never had the urge to eat anyone out, as you so eloquently put it. In fact I think it's disgusting. People and their stereotypes... *shakes head*

[Kevin]

Yeah, that was an overly-gross post bud.

[budster101]

I know. I'm so tired of being so sensitive to other's feelings, I just had to rub that one out...

[Wiskedjak]

Is the use of a condom, or the pill, natural?

[Warung]

Originally Posted by Kevin

When you have to use an animal to justify your actions. You have already lost.

No, when you as a human being have to justify your completely healthy and natural sexual predisposition, then there is something VERY wrong with a society's values!

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by kmkkid

I will however say I've never had the urge to eat anyone out, as you so eloquently put it. In fact I think it's disgusting. People and their stereotypes... *shakes head*

Ya oral sex isn't about having babies so it is un-natural.

Sorry everyone.

[budster101]

It depends... natural lambskin? or Silicon...

Some would say the best method is the cycle, and not birth control, but some women actually benefit from the pill in other ways. If they have endometriosis for instance.

Condoms are great for at least trying to protect from STDs, and if you are going to have sex, at least try to protect yourself, (Aids or unwanted pregnency) I'd rather see that than the latter... so natural, it is not... but there are exceptions to the rule. Just like. And. I know I'm contradicting myself with the previous garish post, but not all gay people are sexually twisted individuals.. I'd have to agree that most of them are normal people sexually speaking. (Not flaming wackadoodles) and pose no serious issue to the minds of their children. The idea of men having sex repulses me to no end, but if it is explained to the children... I don't see a problem.

Suprise.

I just can't stand the bitchy, mean, psccho gays out there... and here.

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by budster101

Suprise.

I just can't stand the bitchy, mean, psccho gays out there... and here.

Yes we have heard.

Personally I can't either. But it has nothing to do with them being gay.

[greenamp]

Just because a person is "naturally" inclined to something doesn't mean a damned thing. Humans do lots of things on their own that no sane person would consider "natural."

This applies to both sides of the hetero/homo argument.

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

Personally I can't either. But it has nothing to do with them being gay.

Then why do you act the stereotype in here?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by greenamp

Just because a person is "naturally" inclined to something doesn't mean a damned thing. Humans do lots of things on their own that no sane person would consider "natural."

This applies to both side of the hetero/homo argument.

Agreed. You aren't somehow a better person because you aren't homosexual.

Or vice versa.

[loki74]

Originally Posted by Warung

WTF does that have to do with anything?

I just gave an example of why "homosexuality" is something completely natural in a specific (nature vs. nurture) context.

Um, it has everything to do with everything?

Do I really need to draw this out for you?

The anus was meant to be an opening to get rid of waste, not for... well yeah. And a mouth is meant to intake food. No matter WHAT religion you are. So you can say thats how we evolved, or thats how God designed us, whatever. USING THINGS FOR THEIR ORIGINAL PURPOSE = NATURAL. Using things for their not original purpose = NOT natural. Being born one way or taught that way has NOTHING to do with it. I have NO idea where you pulled this notion from.

So if you want to go to anal/oral sex, and if you want to do it with the same gender, thats fine, you're still a human being and I can accept you for who you are. But do it on your own time, where I cant see or hear you, and don't try to tell me, my [one day] kids, or anyone that it is "natural."

[greenamp]

It would be interesting to see what would happen if you took 100 babies, 50 female and 50 male, and raised them from infancy to sexual maturity in a 100% controlled, isolated environment. These individuals would have no human interaction whatsoever and no outside influence in any form.

At the point of sexual maturity, they would then have 1 very attractive female, and 1 very attractive male placed within their environment to live with them exclusively for a determined amount of time. The male and female would be nude as to make their sexual orientation as clear as possible. The male and female would live separately, not interact with each other in any form, and not make any sexual advancements whatsoever on the subjects.

The purpose of this would be to observe the sexual behavior of the isolated individuals, when placed with the choice of male or female.

[Railroader]

I will treat this channel like I treat about 95% of the other channels out there. I will ignore it and not think twice about it.

A side note: I wonder if homosexual oriented programming will dwindle on the rest of the channels? And I wonder if the homosexual oriented channel will have a token heterosexual show on it.

[Kevin]

I'd just like for them to say.. take two supposably gay male animals in the wild. And put them in the room with a female of their species that is in heat and see what happens.

Just those three.

[greenamp]

It's completely ludicrous to think that homosexual oriented television will not influence children, teens, and even adults in some form or fashion.

But I guess the real point is if this is a good or bad thing?

[Kevin]

Originally Posted by greenamp

It's completely ludicrous to think that homosexual oriented television will not influence children, teens, and even adults in some form or fashion.

Very brave for you to admit that.

I don't know why anyone would even deny that.

[Captain Obvious]

Originally Posted by Scandalous Ion Cannon

The last research I saw showed that children of same sex couples were more well rounded and emotionally stable then hetro couples.

I call bullsh!t on this one.
Based on what tests and social/phycological standards? Control groups I assume took into account comparable economic demographics as well as available time by parents to spend with the children over the course of their upbringing?

Doubt it.

[Kevin]

I don't think in this day and age people really buy these "studies shown" because there are too many studies that contradict each other, and claim to be right.

Which is a good thing. Instead of taking it by word, we now question such things.

[DeathMan]

I can't understand why we still argue about this, and budster should have his IP banned.