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Looks like it's official. Apple has branded it Thunderbolt:
It appears they've combined Mini-Displayport and Thunderbolt into a single port.
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DOH! Guess my searching skills suck... I did a search on Thunderbolt and didn't get a hit.
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When I think Thunderbolt, I think of this:
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Trying to capitalize on the Thor movie, obviously.
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Why does Apple do that ?
Why can't they call it LightPeak, like everybody else ?
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Because it's not optical - yet.
Edit: Also, nobody calls it "LightPeak", because nobody has a ****ing clue what it's supposed to be.
The small handful of people who do will have no problem learning the term "Thunderbolt" for the copper-wired version of it, any more than we had trouble learning the term "Airport" way back when nobody knew what "WLAN" was supposed to be.
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot
Because it's not optical - yet.
Oh, I'm obviously missing something big then.
(Didn't know that LightPeak came in two variants.)
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LightPeak is a signalling standard that can run over any connection, and it wouldn't surprise me if LightPeak is simply a codename even if it's spelled that way. Intel has done this before with things like HSI (became 3GIO and then PCIe) and CSI (became QPI). Note how the announcement for Thursday doesn't mention LightPeak at all - it talks about "a new technology that is about to hit the market". That logo looks very Apple-y, though.
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Correct, and even the DP combination is standard. Very good. I was afraid Apple had done something funny again.
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So if I have an external display...what do I do when I wanna use thunderbolt?
And are they going to make external HDD's with lightpeak now? (or have they started already?)
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Originally Posted by Jolt21
So if I have an external display...what do I do when I wanna use thunderbolt?
The Lightpeak specs say you can daisy chain up to six devices, so I wouldn't be surprised to see the Apple Cinema Display updated with a Thunderbolt/mini Display port. I am surprised to see that they haven't already updated the display to include that.
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Now all we need is a Thunderbolt PCI card.
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Originally Posted by Atheist
Now all we need is a Thunderbolt PCI card.
Guess that's not gonna happen.
Originally Posted by Macrumors
- CNet's live coverage reveals that there are no plans to offer Thunderbolt PCIe cards. In fact, Intel says that you will need a new computer/motherboard to get Thunderbolt. That means Mac Pro owners won't be able to add it on to their systems.
10:25 a.m. (Dong Ngo) : There won't be TB PCIe cards it seems. You'll need a new computer.
10:34 a.m. (Dong Ngo) : There won't be add-in TB adapters, you'll need a new computer/motherboard that supports TB.
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That makes sense.
Thunderbolt is two channels of PCIe plus DisplayPort.
That would mean you'd actually need THREE PCI slots working in unison to get up to spec, no?
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That's disappointing. It looks like Thunderbolt will take a long time to catch on.
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I don't really think it will take that long. Intel's promoting the standard, so it's going to show up on pretty much all motherboards, and the laptops that are driving the PC market right now don't have PCI slots anyway (until now, of course, considering that Thunderbolt can be considered an external PCIe slot).
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Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot
That makes sense.
Thunderbolt is two channels of PCIe plus DisplayPort.
That would mean you'd actually need THREE PCI slots working in unison to get up to spec, no?
No, it means you'd need one PCIe x4 slot with some sort of bypass connection from the GPU - or implement it ON the GPU. That last actually seems like the best idea: the GPU has an x16 PCIe 2.0 slot, and rarely needs all that bandwidth (unless you're running in SLI/Crossfire). Remains to see what happens with that, but Apple at least could sell a GPU update with a Thunderbolt connection for past MP models.
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Originally Posted by Big Mac
That's disappointing. It looks like Thunderbolt will take a long time to catch on.
That's what they said about USB on the original iMac.
I think this is going to be huge, and I don't think it's going to take too long. And I'm proud that one of my friends still at Apple was one of the lead hardware designers on this who couldn't tell me anything about it until yesterday.
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Originally Posted by P
Remains to see what happens with that, but Apple at least could sell a GPU update with a Thunderbolt connection for past MP models.
That'd probably be a 3rd party thing, not from Apple.
P.S. Would Firewire Target Mode work over Firewire via Thunderbolt?
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Have you noticed that "Thunderbolt" rolls nicely off the tongue after a mere day?
(The P-47 is a nice plane, too.)
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What do you think they might try to do with that port that could be dangerous? I can't come up with anything.
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Originally Posted by chabig
What do you think they might try to do with that port that could be dangerous? I can't come up with anything.
You get electrocuted if you lick it.
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Perhaps Apple is smarter than we give them credit for. That lightning bolt will undoubtedly deter someone from trying to put their tongue into the port.
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