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Apr 7, 2020, 01:09 PM
 
I'm down to using the instant ice tea mix from the back of the cupboard. :brrr:
     
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Apr 11, 2020, 09:41 PM
 
Tried Illy this time. I don’t think it’s ground properly for a drip, but still better than the Bux brand.
     
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Apr 11, 2020, 11:01 PM
 
Too fine? The only Illy I’ve ever seen/tried was an espresso grind, which is definitely not good for drip.
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Apr 11, 2020, 11:33 PM
 
Yup!

Still turned out tastier though.
     
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Apr 12, 2020, 12:40 AM
 
Yeah, Illy’s not bad. Used it for espresso. I think Thorzdad is right that their pre-ground coffee is more suited for espresso.

You can buy Illy’s whole bean, and grind it yourself.
In general, getting a good grinder (burr grinders), and grinding whole beans when you need it will improve your coffee greatly.

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Apr 12, 2020, 01:07 AM
 
If it was at any time other than the apocalypse, that’s what I would have done by this point.

I’m being kind of insane when it comes to isolation, and Amazon is still on the no-fly list.
     
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Apr 12, 2020, 09:46 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
I’m being kind of insane when it comes to isolation, and Amazon is still on the no-fly list.
I’m still ordering from Amazon, but when packages arrive, I kick them into my mood room, and let them sit for three days untouched.
As far as I understand, the virus can’t survive long on porous surfaces like cardboard.
The only thing I’d be careful about is plastic packaging inside. But after a few days (incl. 2 days shipping), the odds are small that a “live” virus is still on it.

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Apr 12, 2020, 08:24 PM
 
That’s a good system, and sooner or later I’m sure I’ll give in, just nothing has crossed the threshold of “essentiality”.

Right now, if I could only order up one thing, I’d stick with the improperly ground coffee and get a hard drive enclosure.

If I could get another thing it’d be a full-size controller for the Switch.


Edit: actually just decided the enclosure was essential. Looked at a hand crank burr grinder, but those get the slow boat treatment, and wouldn’t arrive until May.

Got the controller.
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Apr 13, 2020, 01:32 PM
 
I’m sharing this here - and elsewhere - to help others with the “is it safe to get stuff <in the mail><from Amazon><delivered by drones><etc>” issues.
An Infectious Disease MD and PhD in biochemistry explains relative risk - and why it’s not as bad as some people fear.

Takeaway for the delivery issues: in most situations, the COVID virus will die off in a matter of hours, faster in direct sunlight, and faster in dry, warm conditions than cool, damp conditions. So the three day wait may be overkill if your packages are in a warm, dry place, and definitely if they’re exposed to sunlight for a matter of hours.

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Apr 15, 2020, 10:03 AM
 
Overkill is my favorite kind of kill.

Polished off the Illy, and next up is Kicking Horse brand. Even though it’s ground properly, I like the Illy a touch more. Not as bitter.

It’s the dark roast. I tried to get medium, which I may like better, but they were out.
     
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Apr 24, 2020, 11:48 PM
 
Peet’s Big Bang medium roast: meh... prefer the Kicking Horse.
     
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Apr 30, 2020, 04:58 AM
 
I think coffee started giving me heartburn. What a disaster.
     
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May 10, 2020, 08:39 AM
 
Heartburn seemed transient.

Finished the Peet’s and went back to the Kicking Horse. Now I prefer the Peet’s.

Walked by Intelligentsia today, and it’s still functioning. I may give up and start back there again.
     
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May 16, 2020, 07:02 PM
 
Still can’t get anything other than a dark roast to save my life, but I like the Kicking Horse 454 Horse Power more than their Kick Ass.
     
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May 17, 2020, 03:49 PM
 
normally i used to drink capichino coffee but black coffee without sugar is the best for winter freezing season
     
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May 17, 2020, 05:20 PM
 
For a long time we'd been Gevalia subscribers, and gosh that was good coffee. But we moved to buying it from the grocery store once they started selling it that way. Lately it's been harder to find anything but their (good but strong) French roast or their Breakfast Blend, a good coffee, but not a stand out. So we've been buying other stuff as well.

We had several small bags of a variety of blends on the shelf - gifts from one family member or another. We've been grinding that stuff one bag at a time (about 6 to 8 cups worth), and alternating them with Trader Joe's Dark Roast. It's a nice change-up, especially on early mornings.

I'm about to open a package of Black Rifle Coffee's AK blend. It's supposed to be a medium Espresso roast, blended from light Colombian and dark Brazilian beans, with some interesting commentary about the various flavor notes the blend features. Whatever you may think about their marketing angle, it's a good company, built and run by veterans who have made it their mission to produce some stand-out coffees. We met one of their reps around Christmas time, and sales pitch aside, I'm impressed by the way this company has built itself. I'm looking forward to tasting that stuff.

Another brand, Scars and Stripes Coffee, sounds similar, but it's less an enterprise and more a "veterans helping veterans" thing. My wife met some of their folks at a veterans' get-together a while back. Where Black Rifle Coffee is a company that roasts and sells coffee, Scars and Stripes Coffee is a bunch of veterans helping other veterans take charge of their lives in a positive way. (That sounds sappy, but honestly, after you've given your all to keep yourself and your buddies alive for month after month after month, a regular 9-5 job with the kind of trivial boss-type BS involved in staying employed is pretty challenging to stick with...)

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May 17, 2020, 05:35 PM
 
Maybe I’ll give Gevalia another try, but I thought the bag I got (I think the Breakfast Blend) was awful.
     
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May 17, 2020, 09:45 PM
 
I stick super local but may need to try those out.

That $45 bag of kona though.
     
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May 23, 2020, 11:13 AM
 
Walked by my local place. They’ve converted the part where the front windows open into street facing counters. I’ll probably go back once I run out of my current supply.
     
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May 24, 2020, 05:24 PM
 
Gevalia’s Breakfast Blend is pretty bland. Their French Roast is pretty robust, with lots of depth.

We tried the Black Rifle AK beans. Bueno... It’s mild and yet full-flavored. They recommend brewing it espresso-style, but a slow pour over, with only enough water added at a time to keep the grounds dripping produces a great tasting brew.

And since we like to only grind a little at a time, I need to grind some more...we drank up what we already had ground.

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May 29, 2020, 12:14 PM
 
Went on a cream run, and picked some real coffee on the way back. Holy crap in a nun’s pants... I missed this.
     
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Jun 18, 2020, 08:34 AM
 
We ditched our Keurig a while back and went to buying grounds and doing a French press. Wife likes it a lot better, but we're looking for easier cleanup. She mentioned being interested in pour-over, and her birthday is next week so I figured I could pick something up for her. I'm stuck between permanent and paper filters - one of the reason we stopped using the Keurig was to reduce waste, so it'd be a bit weird going back to disposable filters. On the other hand, if the goal is to reduce cleanup time and effort, a pour-over with a steel mesh filter isn't really going to be any better than cleaning out the French press.

All of that aside, is there a tool or system that's basically foolproof? We're not looking to put in the effort for four successive pours over 3 minutes to perfectly imbue the coffee with the most delicate of aromas and flavors - we have a 190 degree tap on the sink and the goal would be to pour, drip, and drink, then easy cleanup.
     
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Jun 18, 2020, 10:39 AM
 
I use one of these things to do my morning pourovers. It does an acceptable job. It's not going to be the same as a barista-sweated-over pourover, but the results are pretty similar. It definitely depends on the beans.

You still have to deal with the used grounds, of course. Being just a simple cone, it's not as big a PITA to clean as a french press, though. You pretty much dump the grounds and rinse it out. Occasionally, toss it in the dishwasher just to get it really clean.

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Jun 18, 2020, 10:51 AM
 
My other consideration is that we'll be pouring into it from a fixed tap instead of a kettle. So to evenly distribute the water, the whole pour-over assembly gets swished around instead of just maneuvering the kettle. The water requires you to hold the button for continuous flow, so only one hand is available to hold the filter and cup. If the filter assembly and cup are separate units, that sounds like a possibility for them to fall apart while trying to swish around with one hand, or maybe get burnt trying to hold everything while the hot water goes in. I've seen some units that are one piece with a filter that drops in the top. After making it in the glass, it can be poured in the mug.

     
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Jun 19, 2020, 10:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by Thorzdad View Post
I use one of these things to do my morning pourovers. It does an acceptable job. It's not going to be the same as a barista-sweated-over pourover, but the results are pretty similar. It definitely depends on the beans.

You still have to deal with the used grounds, of course. Being just a simple cone, it's not as big a PITA to clean as a french press, though. You pretty much dump the grounds and rinse it out. Occasionally, toss it in the dishwasher just to get it really clean.

Nah, The metal mesh cones and paper (V60/Kalita/Chemex) have very different profiles to my taste buds.

They still make a good cup of coffee however.

FWIW, I prefer V60.
     
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Jun 20, 2020, 04:49 PM
 
I’ve never been able to get metal cones fully clean. I use unbleached Melina cone filters - I don’t know that I can taste a difference between the unbleached and bleached filters, but using unbleached feels like it’s better for us.

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Jun 20, 2020, 07:30 PM
 
I’ve never had any issue cleaning out metal filters, and would prefer to use them for that, along with not generating the extra waste, but when I tested them back to back, I preferred the paper (bleached Melita). Metal was too weak on the regular setting and too strong on the “rich” setting.

Drip, obviously. I’m way too impatient to use anything else.
     
 
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