[PacHead]

Go Canada !



In the lawsuit, Calgary-based Talisman Energy, Canada's biggest independent oil and gas exploration and production company, is accused of such crimes as ethnic cleansing, killings, war crimes, confiscation of property, enslavement, kidnapping and rape in Sudan.

http://www.buffalonews.com/editorial...01/1012024.asp

[Shaddim]

Of course Canadians could do this, any nation's people could commit such crimes. Just proves that every country has it's scum (it's simply the US that catches the most flack for it's citizens' transgressions). I seem to remember the French were doing their own fair share of raping in Africa not too long ago. Anyhow, nothing new... but it is something to think about next time someone posts another "F*** America" thread.

[ambush]

I'm SO glad we're separating soon

[budster101]

You going to join France?

[Scandalous Ion Cannon]

Originally Posted by budster101

You going to join France?

That will always be the dream. Everyone loves French Canadians.

At any rate I am not surprised something like this happened from an oil and gas company, they are all corrupt bastards.

[ghporter]

The article is of course very one-sided.

Talisman mapped out areas intended for exploration and discussed how to dispose of civilians in those areas, according to the suit.

From the perspective of the people bringing the suit, the term "dispose of" is obviously meant to indicate a wanton disregard for the lives of the locals. However, if I'm in a foreign country I have to work with that country's government to be able to get things done-it is completely possible that Talisman discussed with the government "relocating" the locals, and the government (we're talking about Sudan, remember-not the "warmest and fuzziest" of governments) decided the locals were no longer human. It's never a good idea to start getting ideas about "what really happened" in a civil action until you've heard BOTH sides of the story.

Oh, ambush, I hope you're wrong. Both Quebec and the other provinces would lose SO MUCH by the disintegration of the confederation. Besides, who will you argue with (or about) without the English speakers?!

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by ghporter

Oh, ambush, I hope you're wrong. Both Quebec and the other provinces would lose SO MUCH by the disintegration of the confederation.

I hope he's right. The totalitarian run Quebec, with their Stalinistic language laws along their xenophobic population that speaks a funny tongue and wishes to secede would be much worse off after it leaves. It would be a total disaster for them. I hope that other reasonable Canadians grant Quebecians their right to secede. No people should have to live under occupation.

[ambush]

Originally Posted by PacHead

I hope he's right. The totalitarian run Quebec, with their Stalinistic language laws along their xenophobic population that speaks a funny tongue and wishes to secede would be much worse off after it leaves. It would be a total disaster for them. I hope that other reasonable Canadians grant Quebecians their right to secede. No people should have to live under occupation.

hey, dude, do you like it when for instance, you go to the convenience store and all you see are spanish language signs and instructions. We don't. Of course, here it's English instead of Spanish.

[ambush]

Originally Posted by PacHead

I hope he's right. The totalitarian run Quebec, with their Stalinistic language laws along their xenophobic population that speaks a funny tongue and wishes to secede would be much worse off after it leaves. It would be a total disaster for them. I hope that other reasonable Canadians grant Quebecians their right to secede. No people should have to live under occupation.

I think you know nothing about Quebec, Johnny.

[PacHead]

Originally Posted by ambush

I think you know nothing about Quebec, Johnny.

We shall find out when you secede now won't we ?

[OreoCookie]

Originally Posted by MacNStein

... but it is something to think about next time someone posts another "F*** America" thread.

[Jim Paradise]

Originally Posted by ambush

I think you know nothing about Quebec, Johnny.

And you know nothing of history.

[Atomic Rooster]

Another PuckHead Canadian lovefest.


From Heaven of course.

[Jim Paradise]

I will say this: oil companies are generally horrendous to employees and citizens in poor or third-world countries. If these allegations prove true, hopefully the company will be brought to full justice.

[Millennium]

It looks as though this lawsuit has been filed against an oil company that happens to be based in Canada, and not against Canada itself. I don't see how that can be called "Canadian genocide", given that it seems to have had nothing to do with the Canadian government.

[Atomic Rooster]

Originally Posted by Millennium

It looks as though this lawsuit has been filed against an oil company that happens to be based in Canada, and not against Canada itself. I don't see how that can be called "Canadian genocide", given that it seems to have had nothing to do with the Canadian government.

It's a PacHead thing. He has a hate thing going with Canadians, gays, French, French-Canadian gays, etc.

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by PacHead

I hope he's right. The totalitarian run Quebec, with their Stalinistic language laws along their xenophobic population that speaks a funny tongue and wishes to secede would be much worse off after it leaves. It would be a total disaster for them. I hope that other reasonable Canadians grant Quebecians their right to secede. No people should have to live under occupation.

Please come visit us in Montréal!

We'll show you how Stalinist and Saddamist Hussainist we can be!

There are large, huge, titanic holes in the ground with caves full of Eingliche that cut in in tiny pieces to fill the void. We also make sure to grow the Eingliche from trees so we can never run short of victims to exploit and torture!

We need some new blood though.

So please feel welcome!

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by Jim Paradise

I will say this: oil companies are generally horrendous to employees and citizens in poor or third-world countries. If these allegations prove true, hopefully the company will be brought to full justice.

As Canadian, I expect no less.

[Salty]

Oh I wish Quebec would separate. I give em five years on their own before they come crawling back, or join America. Fact is if Quebec separates then that means a whole lot more government cash for the rest of the provinces. Actually it'd be really great if the West from BC to north western ont split off too!

[Athens]

Originally Posted by ambush

I'm SO glad we're separating soon

soon being never?

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by Salty

Oh I wish Quebec would separate. I give em five years on their own before they come crawling back, or join America. Fact is if Quebec separates then that means a whole lot more government cash for the rest of the provinces. Actually it'd be really great if the West from BC to north western ont split off too!

Merci Salty de nous faire nous sentir plus désirés comme canadiens jour après jour!

[Athens]

Originally Posted by ambush

hey, dude, do you like it when for instance, you go to the convenience store and all you see are spanish language signs and instructions. We don't. Of course, here it's English instead of Spanish.

and here its Chinese and Punjabi, what is your point. Even if you separated you would still have that English sign to deal with just as I have to deal with chinese signs and Punjabi sign. Just think how much companies could save and the government too if every label and federal sign didn't need any french on it. Even better how many more jobs would open up from Canada Post to other agencies that would no longer require that you speak English and French. Quebec has no clue how much influence they have across the entire country. When I came back into Canada yesterday, the signs have Stop and Arret, and everything was posted in English and French. Quebec would lose all that if separated.

[kmkkid]

Quebec isn't going to separate.

And ambush: seeing as how you can speak and read english, I don't see why it's a problem having english signs all around. You want french? go to france. Then again you probably wouldn't like their signs either, as they use real french and not a bastardization of the french language.

[Athens]

And you have english signs in France too

[DBursey]

It's a curious thing, the old separatist attitude. I've recently returned from spending several days in quite a few Quebec cities and towns. The sole sign I witnessed bearing any english had the word 'Mike's' in it. As in Mike's Supermarché. The fact is that Quebec represents the sole unilingual jurisdiction in Canada.

Quebec already has more autonomy than any state or province in North America, and more than some European Union states. Officially bilingual Canada provides a huge 'buffer' of protection for the french language in Quebec. Without the linguistic 'protection' provided by Canada in requiring all goods/services to be provided in both official languages, an independent Quebec would truly be inundated with english, as its small market would hold no leverage in demanding french labeling on its imports.

I'd love to hear your thoughts on the above reasoning, Ambush.

As someone has previously iterated, this thread title is yet another unfortunate factual misrepresentation by a known Canada-basher.

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by kmkkid

Quebec isn't going to separate.

I agree.

And ambush: seeing as how you can speak and read english, I don't see why it's a problem having english signs all around.

It is a cultural identity thing. I am OK with English signs, but I love the French ones.

You want french? go to france.

Well, not cool at all. Go back to England, will you? Fisrt Nations have a few words for you...

Then again you probably wouldn't like their signs either, as they use real french and not a bastardization of the french language.

Again, not cool, not useful, not necessary. n:

[kmkkid]

Originally Posted by Pendergast

Well, not cool at all. Go back to England, will you? Fisrt Nations have a few words for you...

Again, not cool, not useful, not necessary. n:

I didn't tell him to go back to france, I simply meant if he wants strictly french, then france is the place to be.

As for the second part, I know it wasn't necessary, I was just poking a lil fun

As a side note, I live in a county (Brant County) with a huge reservation, trust me I hear about their qualms with us english folk all the time Plus how'd you know I wasn't native?

[Athens]

Originally Posted by Pendergast

I agree.



It is a cultural identity thing. I am OK with English signs, but I love the French ones.



Well, not cool at all. Go back to England, will you? Fisrt Nations have a few words for you...



Again, not cool, not useful, not necessary. n:

Fisrt Nations will be breed out with in the next 50 years

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by kmkkid

I didn't tell him to go back to france, I simply meant if he wants strictly french, then france is the place to be.

As for the second part, I know it wasn't necessary, I was just poking a lil fun

As a side note, I live in a county (Brant County) with a huge reservation, trust me I hear about their qualms with us english folk all the time Plus how'd you know I wasn't native?

Because of...

Because!

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by Athens

Fisrt Nations will be breed out with in the next 50 years

Actually, several Nations already disappeared.

[DBursey]

I simply meant if he wants strictly french, then france is the place to be.

Again, Quebec is as unilingual French as it gets. How they attract American tourism is quite beyond me! Trying to navigate Montreal's road signage in the midst of road repair season (May - October!) must be utter hell for unilingual english visitors. It's difficult enough for those of us who speak the language.

[kmkkid]

Originally Posted by Athens

Fisrt Nations will be breed out with in the next 50 years

One can only hope. (no I'm not racist, I just have a dislike for a lot of the natives round these parts )

[kmkkid]

Originally Posted by Pendergast

Because of...

Because!

Cause I wouldn't own a computer, and if I did, I'd be at the bar drinking instead of typing?


I kid... I kid...

[Athens]

Originally Posted by kmkkid

One can only hope. (no I'm not racist, I just have a dislike for a lot of the natives round these parts )

Same. You should visit Vancouver's downtown east end, prob make yours more lovable.

[DBursey]

Merci Salty de nous faire nous sentir plus désirés comme canadiens jour après jour!

Mon ami, ne soyez pas affligé par de petits esprits avec de grandes bouches! Le Canada ne serait pas le Canada sans les Québecois et leur culture distincte.

[kmkkid]

Well that's one thing the french offer us - great culture and cuisine.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by ambush

hey, dude, do you like it when for instance, you go to the convenience store and all you see are spanish language signs and instructions. We don't. Of course, here it's English instead of Spanish.

I thought dual language was the the law since Pearson's days!

EDIT: Ooops. Just read D.Bursey's post.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by Athens

Same. You should visit Vancouver's downtown east end, prob make yours more lovable.

"It bugs me that I am sitting in a nice clean home, with food and water and I can't do a single thing to help out fellow humans with babies and children knee deep in water, starving 5 days on. Pray for those people, pray for the kids. Pray for America." Athens' sig.

There are humans who are hurting in your own community. Not everyone is called to go to the most PUBLICIZED area of need. God put you where you are for a reason. He needs your compassion put to use THERE, not here.

But, if you really feel the need to go to NOLA go to the Red Cross or Salvation Army and ask if you can volunteer to be sent to help specifically in NOLA.

[mojo2]

Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster

Another PuckHead Canadian lovefest.


From Heaven of course.

ROFLMAO
This is my second favorite img.

Haha! Man is #1.

Pope is #2!

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by DBursey

Mon ami, ne soyez pas affligé par de petits esprits avec de grandes bouches! Le Canada ne serait pas le Canada sans les Québecois et leur culture distincte.

DBursey, I think we are friends.

Merci bien!

P.S.: let's use "différente" instead of "distincte" to avoid any confusion.

[goMac]

Originally Posted by budster101

You going to join France?

Being from a French Canadian family, I think the French are hated as equally as the English.

I actually can't think of anybody the French Canadians don't hate.

[Pendergast]

Originally Posted by goMac

Being from a French Canadian family, I think the French are hated as equally as the English.

I actually can't think of anybody the French Canadians don't hate.

I love you like a brother.

[m a d r a]

nothing wrong with the quebecois wanting to preserve their own language and culture. some people [mainly the english speaking ones] just need to make the effort to learn more languages, instead of thinking the whole world should turn into some english-speaking cultural themepark for their benefit.