[NetworkShadow]

I'm interested in learning/trying X11. I've never really messed with the terminal so I'm totally lost. Are there any online starter guides? I'm also interested in any cool software and links. Thanks!

[MacGorilla]

Your key to X11 happiness lies in fink:

http://fink.sf.net

Fink has an X11 FAQ and will allow you to download and install X11 applications. It handles all compiling and dependencies. If you are new to all this, fink is the way to go.

[NetworkShadow]

Ok I've got that installed.

I'm kinda finding my way around fink, but I can't get anything installed...

The following package will be installed or updated:
windowmaker
The following 11 additional packages will be installed:
dlcompat-dev giflib giflib-bin giflib-shlibs libjpeg libjpeg-bin libpng3
libtiff libtiff-bin system-xfree86 windowmaker-shlibs
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
curl -f -L -s -S -O http://distfiles.opendarwin.org/giflib-4.1.0.tar.gz
curl -f -L -s -S -O http://distfiles.opendarwin.org/jpegsrc.v6b.tar.gz
curl -f -L -s -S -O http://distfiles.opendarwin.org/libpng-1.2.5.tar.gz
curl -f -L -s -S -O http://distfiles.opendarwin.org/tiff-v3.5.7.tar.gz
curl -f -L -s -S -O http://distfiles.opendarwin.org/Wind...0.80.1.tar.bz2
mkdir -p /sw/src/dlcompat-20030522-1
/sw/bin/tar -xzf /sw/src/dlcompat-20030522.tar.gz
./configure --prefix=/sw --enable-fink --mandir=/sw/share/man
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl... no
configure: error: no acceptable C compiler found in $PATH
See `config.log' for more details.
### execution of ./configure failed, exit code 1
Failed: compiling dlcompat-20030522-1 failed
[iMac-DV:~] nfdman%

[memento]

You need to install Apple's developer tools (free download) in order to have the compilers. I'm sure that they are other ways to get the compilers, but Apple's dev tools is a simple installer.

[NetworkShadow]

X11 SDK? I've got that now, but I'm still getting a problem...

[iMac-DV:~] nfdman% fink install xmms
sudo /sw/bin/fink install xmms
Password:
Information about 1276 packages read in 1 seconds.


fink needs help picking an alternative to satisfy a virtual dependency. The
candidates:

(1) system-xfree86: Placeholder package for manually installed XFree86
(2) xfree86-rootless: XFree86 libraries, utilities, clients and data

Pick one: [1]
The following package will be installed or updated:
xmms
The following 21 additional packages will be installed:
audiofile audiofile-bin dlcompat-dev esound esound-bin glib glib-shlibs gtk+
gtk+-data gtk+-shlibs libmikmod libmikmod-shlibs libogg libvorbis0 libxml
libxml-shlibs readline readline-shlibs system-xfree86 xmms-bin xmms-shlibs
Do you want to continue? [Y/n] y
rm -rf audiofile-0.2.3-4
mkdir -p /sw/src/audiofile-0.2.3-4
/sw/bin/tar -xzf /sw/src/audiofile-0.2.3.tar.gz
patch -p1 </sw/fink/dists/stable/main/finkinfo/sound/audiofile-0.2.3-4.patch
patching file ltmain.sh
./configure --prefix=/sw --mandir=/sw/src/root-audiofile-0.2.3-4/sw/share/man --infodir=/sw/share/info --libexecdir=/sw/lib
checking for a BSD compatible install... /usr/bin/install -c
checking whether build environment is sane... yes
checking for mawk... no
checking for gawk... no
checking for nawk... no
checking for awk... awk
checking whether make sets ${MAKE}... no
checking build system type... powerpc-apple-darwin6.6
checking host system type... powerpc-apple-darwin6.6
checking for style of include used by make... none
checking for gcc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cc... no
checking for cl... no
configure: error: no acceptable cc found in $PATH
### execution of ./configure failed, exit code 1
Failed: compiling audiofile-0.2.3-4 failed

[wadesworld]

You have to install the developer tools.

Wade

[NetworkShadow]

But isn't that what X11 SDK is? I did install it...

[suthercd]

A couple of good links after you get the SDK and Dev. Tools installed-

www.misplaced.net/fom/X11/1.html

http://homepage.mac.com/sao1/fink/

Fink-beginners list as well as X11 list, too.

Craig

[NetworkShadow]

So do I need the Apple Dev tools in addition to the X11 SDK?

[MacGorilla]

Originally posted by NetworkShadow:
So do I need the Apple Dev tools in addition to the X11 SDK?

Yes.

[NetworkShadow]

Ok thanks for you're help! I've got fink working and xmms installed with no problems.