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Cody Dawg · Mar 22, 2006, 03:57 PM

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Kansas sucked before but now it really sucks.

I'll never go there...ever...not even to pass through that corn and tornado wasteland.

turtle777 · Mar 22, 2006, 04:00 PM

You gotta love your hurricane wasteland FL

-t

Cody Dawg · Mar 22, 2006, 04:01 PM

We don't fingerprint people here because we pull them over.

turtle777 · Mar 22, 2006, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

WTF?
We don't fingerprint people here because we pull them over you moron.

Huh ?

Yeah, but you can get legally shot by anyone who is scared. Much gooder

-t

Spliffdaddy · Mar 22, 2006, 04:07 PM

Seems your odds of getting arrested in Kansas are very good.

"Called the Automatic Fingerprint Identification System, it is a statewide database of more than 10 million fingerprints taken from people arrested in Kansas."

Population of Kansas in 2004 = 2,735,502

2.7 million residents in the state - and 10million fingerprints of arrested citizens.

Eriamjh · Mar 22, 2006, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Spliffdaddy

2.7 million residents in the state - and 10million fingerprints of arrested citizens.

Maybe that's one for each finger!

IFLY2HIGH · Mar 22, 2006, 04:14 PM

You can get a fake drivers license, but not fake finger prints since each is so unique. So if this person comits a crime in some other state that has his finger prints on file, and they do the so-called finger print identifaction(sp) and wow he's not who he says he is and commited this crime in this state, and he's under arrest and off the streets.

turtle777 · Mar 22, 2006, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by Eriamjh

Maybe that's one for each finger!

One arrested ?

Are you saying all these criminals have only one finger ?

-t

ambush · Mar 22, 2006, 04:55 PM

Land of the free!

Dr Reducto · Mar 22, 2006, 05:01 PM

+1 for a checkpoint based society.

nredman · Mar 22, 2006, 05:02 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

You gotta love your hurricane wasteland FL

-t

Shaddim · Mar 22, 2006, 05:17 PM

Originally Posted by ambush

Land of the free!

Because you're too ignorant to understand that there are 50 individual states, and that each state has it's own laws?

Or, are you implying that the whole US is the same? Much like, there's nothing special about Quebec, and it's just another sad part of Canada? Right?

*shrug*

Rumor · Mar 22, 2006, 05:22 PM

It took the FBI four months to come back with the results of my fingerprints when I acquired my insurance license. That would be a long time to be detained...

rickey939 · Mar 22, 2006, 05:27 PM

I happen to love the idea. Yes, I love it.

olePigeon · Mar 22, 2006, 05:46 PM

If you don't have fingerprints (like, you burned all your finger tips)... what do they print instead? Teeth? (seriously)

Rumor · Mar 22, 2006, 05:58 PM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

If you don't have fingerprints (like, you burned all your finger tips)... what do they print instead? Teeth? (seriously)

There was a mention of palm prints...

wallinbl · Mar 22, 2006, 10:21 PM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

If you don't have fingerprints (like, you burned all your finger tips)... what do they print instead? Teeth? (seriously)

The scarring on your fingers is likely to be unique. The print from my right pinky is not at all like a normal fingerprint - it's somewhat of a scaly pattern. No clue why - don't recall any injury and neither do my folks. Also have two purple dots under the skin on that finger.

CollinG3G4 · Mar 22, 2006, 11:09 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

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Kansas sucked before but now it really sucks.

I'll never go there...ever...not even to pass through that corn and tornado wasteland.

Go fsck yourself princess.

macroy · Mar 23, 2006, 12:17 AM

What's so bad about it? Its just a different way of identifying you. In fact, its not even that. Unless you've been fingerprinted for one reason or another, it's actually just a way to clear you.

Its funny how when you take something like this and use if for every day access control - folks are like "wow, cool".... but put it in a law enforcement type of use - it becomes "WTF!?!?! they can't do that. It invades my privacy".

Yea - there are inherent flaws with biometric systems; but aside from that, I like it.

Rolling Bones · Mar 23, 2006, 02:50 AM

Originally Posted by MacNStein

Because you're too ignorant to understand that there are 50 individual states, and that each state has it's own laws?

Or, are you implying that the whole US is the same? Much like, there's nothing special about Quebec, and it's just another sad part of Canada? Right?

*shrug*

God, you are an ignorant ****wad!

wallinbl · Mar 23, 2006, 07:33 AM

Originally Posted by macroy

What's so bad about it? Its just a different way of identifying you. In fact, its not even that. Unless you've been fingerprinted for one reason or another, it's actually just a way to clear you.

Its funny how when you take something like this and use if for every day access control - folks are like "wow, cool".... but put it in a law enforcement type of use - it becomes "WTF!?!?! they can't do that. It invades my privacy".

Yea - there are inherent flaws with biometric systems; but aside from that, I like it.

Because there are significant statistics regarding wrongful convictions, there are "dirty cops", etc. While I believe that in general, the police and the legal system intend to do good, the reality is that they don't always do it. We, as citizens, need to maintain a reasonable level of precaution to avoid a situation where we become completely at the mercy of people in power, whether they be the president, legistlators, police, or anyone.

The history of the world is full of power abuse. That's basically what you learned about in history class. The next time someone takes out a large US building, we're going to get the Patriot Act 2.

Eriamjh · Mar 23, 2006, 07:58 AM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

One arrested ?

Are you saying all these criminals have only one finger ?

-t

10 million fingerprints = 1 million people with 10 fingers

And those one fingered criminals have 90% less evidence to leave. Those bastards!

Kevin · Mar 23, 2006, 08:15 AM

Hamsternated!

Kevin · Mar 23, 2006, 08:17 AM

Originally Posted by CollinG3G4

Go fsck yourself princess.

Originally Posted by Rolling Bones

God, you are an ignorant ****wad!

http://www.mentalhealth.com/

Moderator · Mar 23, 2006, 08:47 AM

Go Red States!

vmarks · Mar 23, 2006, 09:35 AM

Originally Posted by IFLY2HIGH

You can get a fake drivers license, but not fake finger prints since each is so unique.

False.

T. Matsumoto, H. Matsumoto, K. Yamada, S. Hoshino, "Impact of Artificial Gummy Fingers on Fingerprint Systems," Proceedings of SPIE Vol. #4677, Optical Security and Counterfeit Deterrence Techniques IV, 2002.

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Tsutomu Matsumoto, a Japanese cryptographer, recently decided to look at biometric fingerprint devices. These are security systems that attempt to identify people based on their fingerprint. For years the companies selling these devices have claimed that they are very secure, and that it is almost impossible to fool them into accepting a fake finger as genuine. Matsumoto, along with his students at the Yokohama National University, showed that they can be reliably fooled with a little ingenuity and $10 worth of household supplies.

Matsumoto uses gelatin, the stuff that Gummi Bears are made out of. First he takes a live finger and makes a plastic mold. (He uses a free-molding plastic used to make plastic molds, and is sold at hobby shops.) Then he pours liquid gelatin into the mold and lets it harden. (The gelatin comes in solid sheets, and is used to make jellied meats, soups, and candies, and is sold in grocery stores.) This gelatin fake finger fools fingerprint detectors about 80% of the time.

His more interesting experiment involves latent fingerprints. He takes a fingerprint left on a piece of glass, enhances it with a cyanoacrylate adhesive, and then photographs it with a digital camera. Using PhotoShop, he improves the contrast and prints the fingerprint onto a transparency sheet. Then, he takes a photo-sensitive printed-circuit board (PCB) and uses the fingerprint transparency to etch the fingerprint into the copper, making it three-dimensional. (You can find photo-sensitive PCBs, along with instructions for use, in most electronics hobby shops.) Finally, he makes a gelatin finger using the print on the PCB. This also fools fingerprint detectors about 80% of the time.

Gummy fingers can even fool sensors being watched by guards. Simply form the clear gelatin finger over your own. This lets you hide it as you press your own finger onto the sensor. After it lets you in, eat the evidence.

wdlove · Mar 23, 2006, 10:54 AM

Hi Cody it is very sad. It just seems that the PC crowd is infiltrating the entire country. Elections are going to be critical in November, It will decided what kind of country we want to live.

Shaddim · Mar 23, 2006, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Kevin

http://www.mentalhealth.com/

It's no use, he's a lost cause.

Moderator · Mar 23, 2006, 02:12 PM

Originally Posted by wdlove

Hi Cody it is very sad. It just seems that the PC crowd is infiltrating the entire country. Elections are going to be critical in November, It will decided what kind of country we want to live.

You better believe OBL is pulling for the GOP