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Matte screen petition
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This old petition for matte screen on the MacBook has become popular again with the disappearance of that option on the new MBP.
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Apple would have to redesign the MBP (getting rid of the glass) to bring back the matte option. Not. Going. To. Happen.
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Hey, I dont expect this petition to change Steve's mind. The whole thing here is that Apple should learn to listen to their faithful customers.
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Clinically Insane
Join Date: Oct 2000
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Originally Posted by k squared
Apple would have to redesign the MBP (getting rid of the glass) to bring back the matte option. Not. Going. To. Happen.
Why is the glass cover so important to the design of the machine? Why couldn't a non-glass, matte screen be substituted instead?
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"The natural progress of things is for liberty to yield and government to gain ground." TJ
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Glass is a more efficient optical path of light, therefore, the image appears brighter, with greater contrast which in turn gives the appearance of greater sharpness. A matte optical transmitting layer makes the image more diffuse, less contrasty, cuts back on the amount of light coming through.
Maybe I am the odd one out, but even as a visual pro, I am digging the glass screen more than the matte one.
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Originally Posted by Kodachrome_Project
A matte optical transmitting layer makes the image more diffuse, less contrasty, cuts back on the amount of light coming through.
That's nonsense and doesn't apply when it comes to a professional quality screen used by graphic pros.
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Join Date: Jul 2005
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But is that the kind of screen that was already in the MacBook Pro? Honestly I do design work on my MacBook with a glossy screen and it looks great.
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Originally Posted by Salty
But is that the kind of screen that was already in the MacBook Pro? Honestly I do design work on my MacBook with a glossy screen and it looks great.
No the MBP has always had a mediocre 6 bit screen with dithering to emulate 8 bit colour.
Glossy looks colourful but do you do work for print or consider that your images don't look the same on everybody's screen? Someone who works for print won't ever consider working on a glossy. Just read the pros on this forum and what they say.
If you created images on a glossy and then saw them on one of these screens you will know that the glossy tricked you. Your images don't have the level of colour or contrast that you thought they had.
http://www.lacie.com/us/products/range.htm?id=10016
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Originally Posted by PaperNotes
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If you created images on a glossy and then saw them on one of these screens you will know that the glossy tricked you. Your images don't have the level of colour or contrast that you thought they had...
How is the glossy LCD different from the older CRT displays? Are they not both 'glossy'? Serious question.
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Mac Elite
Join Date: Jan 2001
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Do ****ing Mac users EVER stop whining and bitching and complaining and moaning? I swear to God Mac users bitch about EVERYTHING. Is ANY Mac user EVER satisfied???
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Professional Poster
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huh? should we have no opinions, no needs that aren't met by apple?
i WISH i could get a macbook with a matte screen. i know this won't happen, but feel that a FORUM such as this is the ideal place to discuss.
for some (obviously not ALL) of apple's consumer base, glossy screens (and removing firewire!) are missteps, and we're here DISCUSSING it.
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"At first, there was Nothing. Then Nothing inverted itself and became Something.
And that is what you all are: inverted Nothings...with potential" (Sun Ra)
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And it's doing such a great job. I hear Apple is coming out with a new matte screen Macbook with 14 firewire ports next week.
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Mac Elite
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How many Dell laptops can you get with a matte screen? I just looked and didn't notice any. But then a gain, I didn't look all that hard. The first page I came across listed all glossy, with one LED option.
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Professional Poster
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Originally Posted by ctt1wbw
And it's doing such a great job. I hear Apple is coming out with a new matte screen Macbook with 14 firewire ports next week.
"i know this won't happen, but feel that a FORUM such as this is the ideal place to discuss."
as i've said... what's the argument? no one is expecting apple to pull the macbooks, and fix them to 'our' requests.
but isn't this a FORUM, a place to discuss, among other things, our concerns with apple products?
anyway, not looking to battle. peace!
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"At first, there was Nothing. Then Nothing inverted itself and became Something.
And that is what you all are: inverted Nothings...with potential" (Sun Ra)
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Originally Posted by PaperNotes
Just read the pros on this forum and what they say.
Well I am one, high end advertising, stock, fine art. I did three jobs on this new machine today, the new screen is outstanding, a lot easier to get rid of glossy reflections than diffuse ones.
I printed out images and they looked great. Perfect upgrade!
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Posting Junkie
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In case you haven't heard, Apple probably doesn't even care.
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Originally Posted by k squared
How is the glossy LCD different from the older CRT displays? Are they not both 'glossy'? Serious question.
CRT didn't add contrast or colour that wasn't there in the first place.
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Originally Posted by Kodachrome_Project
Well I am one, high end advertising, stock, fine art. I did three jobs on this new machine today, the new screen is outstanding, a lot easier to get rid of glossy reflections than diffuse ones.
I printed out images and they looked great. Perfect upgrade!
Nah you're just protecting your investment by being a fanatic who wants everyone to join in on the cult action.
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Mac Enthusiast
Join Date: May 2008
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I think Apple knows its customers better than many people here claim.
I, for one, love my new glossy screen. I never thought I would, but I do. Apple was correct about the brightness of the LED, and the sturdiness of glass.
A bold move by Apple, criticized initially, but which demonstrates the forward-looking character of the company to which many of us have been loyal for years.
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Mac Elite
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Go away, Ted. Nobody wants to hear a voice of reason.
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