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subego
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Sep 13, 2021, 07:44 PM
 
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Just filled up. $4.20 a gallon here.
JFC. $3.20 in the burbs here.
     
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Sep 13, 2021, 09:11 PM
 
Dude my neighbor's new dude came over last fall and started talking to me about Hunter Biden and I was like yeah man I have no idea what you're talking about, then he started explaining something about him and Im like yeah I don't care at all bro, I vote on healthcare that is IT. GF's cancer cost us close to $30,000 out of pocket. With insurance.

Nothing else matters. Universal healthcare. Everything else is just noise.
     
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Originally Posted by MacNNFamous View Post
Dude my neighbor's new dude came over last fall and started talking to me about Hunter Biden and I was like yeah man I have no idea what you're talking about, then he started explaining something about him and Im like yeah I don't care at all bro, I vote on healthcare that is IT. GF's cancer cost us close to $30,000 out of pocket. With insurance.

Nothing else matters. Universal healthcare. Everything else is just noise.
Sorry to hear about your gf's cancer, I hope she is on her way to remission.
I lost my mom to cancer this year. I couldn't fathom if we had to combine the grief with significant financial difficulty where perhaps we'd have to choose a treatment plan according to what we can afford. The effed up financial system is the reason I'd never move to the US with my family. I liked living there, both, East coast and West coast. But you could easily go broke through no fault of your own.
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Sep 14, 2021, 12:09 AM
 
Filled up today for 2.98 a gallon. Is that a bargain or what?

And no one should have to do a gofundme for medical care due to lack of or crappy insurance. Glad the GF is healing but to be kicked while you are down with a huge bill... sucks.

Insurance is stupid, and hospital network billing is stupid. I have gold standard insurance but still have been jerked around by billing using the wrong codes or not submitting something as in network... like they are hoping I won't call to get it cleared up and just pay $700 for one physical therapy appointment that is COVERED. Fricking energy vampires in the billing departments.
     
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Sep 14, 2021, 02:36 AM
 
Originally Posted by andi*pandi View Post
Insurance is stupid, and hospital network billing is stupid. I have gold standard insurance but still have been jerked around by billing using the wrong codes or not submitting something as in network... like they are hoping I won't call to get it cleared up and just pay $700 for one physical therapy appointment that is COVERED. Fricking energy vampires in the billing departments.
Even in Japan I see tiny traces of the craziness. Back when my first daughter was born, my wife was on a different insurance than me. But by default, children are on the insurance of the husband, because, you know, we still have patriarchy here. So after birth, I was given two bills. They had carefully kept track of whether a medical sponge was used before or after birth on my daughter. Before means it was put on my wife’s tab, after means I had to pay for it. It took me 30 minutes to understand what the hell was going on. And I have a freakin’ PhD in math. So much money is lost with worthless administration. I’m sure it is still child’s play compared to what you Americans have to go through (so the doctor in the in-network hospital was out-of-network after all?!?).

In the end, it wasn’t very expensive for US standards. But it would have been free in Germany.
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Sep 14, 2021, 06:45 AM
 
Originally Posted by subego View Post
JFC. $3.20 in the burbs here.
$7.00 here.

But my APAP machine, including three nights at a sleep laboratory, was flat-fee co-pay of 10€, and my ex's cancer treatment was completely free.
     
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Sep 14, 2021, 09:01 AM
 
Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
$7.00 here.

But my APAP machine, including three nights at a sleep laboratory, was flat-fee co-pay of 10€, and my ex's cancer treatment was completely free.
This makes no sense. You’re comparing a regular daily living expense that I would totally notice and complain loudly about to an infrequent, maybe-I-won’t-need-it large expense that a successful and healthy person like myself may never need….
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Sep 14, 2021, 01:31 PM
 
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This makes no sense. You’re comparing a regular daily living expense that I would totally notice and complain loudly about to an infrequent, maybe-I-won’t-need-it large expense that a successful and healthy person like myself may never need….
I see that argument of "I may never need it"…

About 40% of adults are going to need treatment for cancer at some point. Probably way more are going to need some sort of medical treatment for whatever serious illness at some point.

The likelihood of needing costly medical procedures is probably higher than the likelihood of owning a car here in Europe, and probably about equivalent to the rate of car ownership in the US.

If you add to that the consequences of the fact that many simply opt not to go to the doctor for fear of not being able to afford it…
     
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Sep 14, 2021, 01:41 PM
 
I assumed that was sarcasm... from the pov of a healthy young person.
     
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Sep 14, 2021, 01:44 PM
 
My apologies if that was indeed sarcasm.
     
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Sep 14, 2021, 03:15 PM
 
~ makes note for next moderators’ dinner meeting: Add /s sarcasm emoji.
     
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Sep 15, 2021, 09:26 PM
 
Originally Posted by Spheric Harlot View Post
I see that argument of "I may never need it"…

About 40% of adults are going to need treatment for cancer at some point. Probably way more are going to need some sort of medical treatment for whatever serious illness at some point.

The likelihood of needing costly medical procedures is probably higher than the likelihood of owning a car here in Europe, and probably about equivalent to the rate of car ownership in the US.

If you add to that the consequences of the fact that many simply opt not to go to the doctor for fear of not being able to afford it…
Some of that treatment for cancer is diagnostic.

Say you find an odd bump on your skin - in a place that's exposed to the sun a lot, and oh yes you're out in the sun a lot. A scrape or punch biopsy is a very effective way to either confirm or rule out skin cancer.

Say you find a lump in your breast, you get a mammogram and the imaging doesn't clearly say the lump isn't a problem. You get a biopsy - it could be an aspiration, a needle biopsy, or some other procedure that gets a sample of whatever the lump is, and the pathologist looks at it to determine what's going on.

Get that colonoscopy you're supposed to but have been putting off. A colonoscopy is indicated for people 50 or over, or if you have a family history of certain conditions, or if you have symptoms of irritable bowel or other things. Colonoscopies are the only diagnostic procedure that can prevent cancer. They find a polyp and snip it out, and the pathologist checks it out. Most are benign but you may get an interesting call that says "we got it all, but we want you to schedule another colonoscopy in a couple years, just to let us keep an eye on that area."

EACH of these procedures has the potential to give you a scary diagnosis, or to put your mind at ease. But each of these situations could come up for just about anyone.

Oh, and I filled up today. $2.57 (Regular) here in Northwest San Antonio. Wanna hear something funny? Gas costs LESS here than in the Houston area, sometimes by quite a bit.

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Sep 16, 2021, 05:55 AM
 
The average cost for a colonoscopy is $3000! Woah.

Considering that the likelihood of needing one every few years is supposed to be 100% above the age of 50…
     
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Sep 16, 2021, 09:38 AM
 
Is that the average cost in the US? I wonder what it costs the NHS to do one.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Sep 16, 2021, 09:53 AM
 
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The average cost for a colonoscopy is $3000! Woah.
Is that the out-of-pocket cost to the patient? I’m pretty sure the total billing for a colonoscopy is way above $3000, at least in the US. When I had mine done a couple years ago, there were the gastro doc, a nurse, and the anesthesiologist in the room. I don’t think anesthesiologists even get out of bed for a paltry $3000 on their own.
     
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Sep 16, 2021, 06:05 PM
 
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Saw some jarheads spewing anti vaccine nonsense on FB, started arguing with them,
So you started the argument?
I kept saying my dick was big enough that I can admit when people know more than me, so maybe I'll trust the experts, more or less.
Which experts are you going to trust? FWIW most democrat politicians were anti vax back when they thought Trump might get credit for it being done under his term. But it's understandable, I know how quickly liberals forget their own hypocrisy, lies and political footballs they created, then pretend republicans are the only ones who do it. Anyway it doesnt matter, this is a dumb football topic at this point. The antivax phenomenon is a worldwide problem, not just the US as democrats are claiming. It's a trust in government problem. It's what happens when one side declares war on half the citizens as part of a long term power/culture grab, and those citizens are then forced to troll the great leftist machine the only way they know how.
.... I can admit when people know more than me, so maybe I'll trust the experts, more or less.
Pretty much no one admits this. Whats actually happening is you've found an authority that you already agreed with then appealed to that authority. The so called experts have flip flopped ~8 times in the past 21 months.
One of them ran out of arguments and became increasingly hostile, saying he wants to go for a ride on my boat and make me swim with the fishes, and then in another comment he said he wanted to tar and feather me, to hear me scream.
Sounds like you're saying you bring a lot of anger to the world and people around you.
I reported both his comments. Facebook said they were fine.
I responded and said "threats over the internet is 100% tiny dick energy", and then I was banned for 30 days for bullying. ?!?!?!
I really dont think the blue haired hipster sitting in San Francisco auditing fb flags is saying "Ah another liberal post from ca$h! I hate liberal posts, lets ban em". My fb feed is filled with leftist vitriol and fake narratives and none of them are being flagged. It takes a total narcissistic sociopath to be banned on there. It's possible once you started talking about dick size that the fb algorithm thought you weren't old enough to use fb. Have you ever considered taking some serious time to meditate, to truly reflect on who you believe you are vs how people actually perceive you, and who you ultimately want to be? You really seem to need some self reflection. You're hitting all the sociopath triggers on simple AI algorithms. You're the kind of person who could easily be an admirable millionaire with your skillset, but the thing holding you back is you have the mentality, class, impulsiveness, and lexicon of a 5th grader. You're too easily angered. Perhaps join some clubs for interests outside your core to meet some people who arent just redneck culture. And like... hoo makes "tiny dick" jokes anymore? You're 40 years old... If you really want to insult someone now days accuse them of not playing with toys or video games enough. Accuse them of looking like they work with their hands. Accuse them of not supporting stuff like unionization, criminality, drug use, or outsourcing. Thats how to shame americans in 2021.
in a different forum, there was a topic about labor shortage... the boomers instantly blamed stimmie checks, but I pointed out that when you adjust min wage for inflation, it's way lower than when they were kids, and pointed out that whole "people working full time that still qualify for gov assistance' is just subsidizing corporate profits. At no point did I talk about a politician, or red vs blue, just stayed chill and discussed the actual issue, and I was banned for "talking politics".
Well you're wrong see. The average person today buys way more material things than they did in the past. That speaks for itself. In the 50's the average person had a garden, not as hobby, but as a necessity because they couldn't afford to just buy all their food needs like elitists today. Their houses were smaller (even building your own house was still a thing back then), their cars turned over less frequently, they fixed stuff that broke. They almost never ate out. These days we're so rich we're a throw away society where everyone thinks they're a lord who should be furnished by servants. Back when I worked min wage I dreaded workers rights or min wage increases because it just meant employers' new risk assessment barriers would make it more difficult for me to get my foot in the door for new positions. I wasnt worried about how hard it'd be to get raises above what 15 yr olds got and neither should anyone else be. Theres thousands of jobs that pay $20-50 /hr begging anyone who will work, but government has succeeded in creating a young culture of people who 'choose' not to take them because such manual jobs arent good enough for their highness. They're too educated, they're too smart, they didnt go to college for that, well maybe they shouldnt have gone to college at all...
Dude my neighbor's new dude came over last fall and started talking to me about Hunter Biden and I was like yeah man I have no idea what you're talking about, then he started explaining something about him and Im like yeah I don't care at all bro, I vote on healthcare that is IT. GF's cancer cost us close to $30,000 out of pocket. With insurance.
Nothing else matters. Universal healthcare. Everything else is just noise.
See this is the problem with your political philosophy. Most are headline voters who dont know about politics and dont care, just like you admit. All they know is they've fallen for the free stuff narrative and they like free stuff. This is why they do everything they can to appeal to the least experienced most gullible groups, always pushing for younger and younger voters etc.. If nothing else matters then why are you talking politics with all these other people? There's so much wrong with this statement. So you're not willing to participate in your democracy unless and except for the free stuff issue that you falsely believe benefits you.

Insurance works only if there's risk to spread. IE it's improbable that your house will burn down in your lifetime. But if it does, the cost is high. Hence there is risk to spread since most people wont have to cash in on their house burning down. Insurance doesnt work for medical because the probability that you'll want medical attention is 100%. The probability that you'll experience a serious life altering health problem costing 100's of thousands is near 100%. There's no risk to spread, everyone's cashing in on it. That means the insurance whether it's private or government, is charging you the whole cost. All they're doing is taking your money and giving a fraction of it back. They're spreading it out over your whole life raising premiums annually (like a ponzi scheme) and not approving the best treatments hoping you'll die if they've calculated that your continual medical costs are likely to outpace your lifetime annual payback. It's best if you just cut out the middle man entirely and have a health savings account. But the main problem with our system is there's a shortage of nurse practitioners and doctors. It is the only industry that limits how many professionals it has by bottlenecking at the med school level. Look how many qualified people are declined each year simply because there's not enough seats. Look up how many years it takes to be a doctor in the US vs other countries. Look up the rate of medicine innovation in Europe vs the US and then consider how much bigger Europe is. Look up where utopia Europe gets some of its best FREE!™ medicine, it couldnt be, the predatory capitalist US right? Look up how Europe's governments are always complaining about their population not growing fast enough to support all their ponzi social programs despite being so overpopulated. The US has subsidized Europe in all kinds of direct and indirect ways since WWII in exchange for their allegiance in ruling western civilization, and yet the Nationalist Confederated States of Europe is still on the verge of imploding any given year. Nothing is free
     
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Sep 16, 2021, 06:22 PM
 
chup, I genuinely think you’re awesome, but you should probably take some of your own advice in regards to anger management. There’s a lot of hostility going on.
     
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Sep 17, 2021, 05:11 PM
 
And this is not the PWL, so let’s tone things down.

The Lounge is a place of civil discourse, even when we are discussing arguments. So we will now return to civil discussions, or we start having to remind folks that we have - and enforce - rules.

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Sep 17, 2021, 06:08 PM
 
Originally Posted by Thorzdad View Post
Is that the out-of-pocket cost to the patient? I’m pretty sure the total billing for a colonoscopy is way above $3000, at least in the US. When I had mine done a couple years ago, there were the gastro doc, a nurse, and the anesthesiologist in the room. I don’t think anesthesiologists even get out of bed for a paltry $3000 on their own.
The numbers I found were between $2500 and $5000, with the average being around $3000.

Out-of-pocket being up to around $1000 WITH what Americans call health "insurance".

Meanwhile, us socialists can have doctors stuff our arses free of charge.
     
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Sep 17, 2021, 06:23 PM
 
Originally Posted by el chupacabra View Post
FWIW most democrat politicians were anti vax back when they thought Trump might get credit for it being done under his term.
This is a lie. Especially amusing because Tr*mp constantly brags about how he brought about the Pfizer vaccine, even though it was developed in fucking Germany.
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Whats actually happening is you've found an authority that you already agreed with then appealed to that authority. The so called experts have flip flopped ~8 times in the past 21 months.
This, too, is a lie. At the very least, utterly dishonest framing. The science has been completely transparent here, and errors have been corrected as better data came in.

The people making the best choices based on what we knew are still the people making the best choices based on what we know. Medicine is not a partisan issue.

The people pulling crap out of their partisan asses didn't know better when they happened to be right, and they still don't know better when they're wrong.

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Insurance doesnt work for medical because the probability that you'll want medical attention is 100%. The probability that you'll experience a serious life altering health problem costing 100's of thousands is near 100%. There's no risk to spread, everyone's cashing in on it. That means the insurance whether it's private or government, is charging you the whole cost. All they're doing is taking your money and giving a fraction of it back. They're spreading it out over your whole life raising premiums annually (like a ponzi scheme) and not approving the best treatments hoping you'll die if they've calculated that your continual medical costs are likely to outpace your lifetime annual payback. It's best if you just cut out the middle man entirely and have a health savings account.
This bears addressing, because it encapsulates a fundamental (mis)understanding of society.

Because this is not at all how health insurance works in all civilised nations.

The way it works is that your premiums are figured as percentage of your income. You see, an oddity of health is that people are NOT equally likely to need assistance: The poorer you are, the less healthy you probably are, simply because you cannot afford the luxury of healthy lifestyle choices. That is simply a fact.

So the paradox is that the more likely you're going to need medical attention, the less likely you're going to be able to afford it.

The solution: charge everyone based on what they can afford, and then make sure everyone gets the same basic coverage.

The wealthy can still access their fancy private clinics and their fancy private specialist doctors or fly to wherever to get their teeth done, but basic health as a human right is guaranteed to all, whether s/he can afford to buy organically grown kale and set aside the time to cook proper food while working three jobs to feed the kids, or not.
     
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Sep 17, 2021, 09:20 PM
 
Originally Posted by el chupacabra View Post
Insurance works only if there's risk to spread. IE it's improbable that your house will burn down in your lifetime. But if it does, the cost is high. Hence there is risk to spread since most people wont have to cash in on their house burning down. Insurance doesnt work for medical because the probability that you'll want medical attention is 100%. The probability that you'll experience a serious life altering health problem costing 100's of thousands is near 100%. There's no risk to spread, everyone's cashing in on it. That means the insurance whether it's private or government, is charging you the whole cost. All they're doing is taking your money and giving a fraction of it back.
That’s not how it works. Insurances don’t spread the risk of a single person across a single person’s lifetime, they spread the risks over an entire population. You can know how many people per 100,000 are pregnant, are having heart attacks, cancer, strokes, etc. Most medical care clusters around very young children, pregnant women and the elderly. Apart from that you have comparatively rare cases of people getting seriously ill or who have gotten into accidents, which lead to high expenses. From that perspective it is like a car insurance. Most countries put much more stringent regulations on health insurance, though, because they consider access to the health care system as a fundamental human right.

The fact that this model does work is obvious from how the health care sector works in all other developed countries apart from the US. And they are doing it with a wide range of business models, you have highly regulated private insurance companies as in Switzerland and Germany to Britain’s NHS and Canada’s (state-based) equivalents. They all cost much less and offer better care on average. And yes, other countries contribute to the development of medical treatments and medications. Just look at the Covid vaccines:
how many of them were developed in the US and how many in other countries? The Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was developed by the German company BioNTech. Pfizer was responsible for the large-scale trials, the distribution and manufacture — which are not easy to pull off. Astra Zeneca is a British-Swedish joint venture. Johnson & Johnson is a Dutch company. Moderna is American. Moderna doesn’t work better than all other vaccines either, they are all roughly on par.
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They're spreading it out over your whole life raising premiums annually (like a ponzi scheme) and not approving the best treatments hoping you'll die if they've calculated that your continual medical costs are likely to outpace your lifetime annual payback. It's best if you just cut out the middle man entirely and have a health savings account.
Health savings accounts don’t work, because it doesn’t protect people from rarer, serious diseases and it doesn’t provide the necessary funding when you need it. Most of the health care costs cluster around your 20s–40s and when you are 65+. You’d at first think I’d be wrong about the first range, aren’t most people in their 20s–40s healthy? Yes. But that’s when people have children, and children are very expensive. Complications during birth are common. There were severe complications during my birth, and I almost died. I spent two weeks in an infant ICU. My daughter also almost died during birth, and the problem developed literally during the few hours. So you probably don’t have enough savings in your health care savings account at that age should something go wrong. It also doesn’t protect you if you happen to get a rarer illness with an expensive treatment or have a severe accident. That’s why you don’t have a “car accident savings account” either.
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Look up how many years it takes to be a doctor in the US vs other countries.
It takes about the same time from entering university to finishing your specialization. (I think we have had this discussion before, and I dug up links.) That’s because doctors in all developed countries have to cram the same knowledge into their heads.
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Sep 18, 2021, 12:52 PM
 
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So you started the argument?
Yes, I saw misinformation being spread, and corrected them.

Which experts are you going to trust?
I used to trust the CDC, but they are bitch ass puppets to corporate America, deciding that "we should open back up" earlier this summer, to the collective shock of the WHO and the rest of the world. The whole "if you're vaccinated you don't need to wear a mask but nobody is going to ever check any of this" was DESTINED to fail and anyone with more than two braincells to rub together would have realized how incredibly fucking stupid this was.

FWIW most democrat politicians were anti vax back when they thought Trump might get credit for it being done under his term.
lmfao. Dude you should hang 13 little flags in your front yard because of Biden's ineptitude. But yeah, totally forget the 60-70 soldiers who died in afganistan when Trump was in office. Let's not even admit those happened, right? You're a joke, and so is anyone else who spews 2 party narrative BS without thinking critically for themselves.

Pretty much no one admits this. Whats actually happening is you've found an authority that you already agreed with then appealed to that authority. The so called experts have flip flopped ~8 times in the past 21 months.
The WHO has been pretty consistent. The CDC is being pressured by corporate america to "open back up" and "get back to normal" so people start spending money on corporate bullshit again, which is why I don't care what the CDC says. The data has been freely available the entire time:

- Vaccination increases your survival rate by a huge margin
- Vaccinated can still catch covid, and spread it at 60-70% rate of unvaccinated
- Masking/Distancing is still required to stop the spread
- It was NEVER "get jabbed and things are normal again", ever. The solution has ALWAYS been a multi-layered approach of masking, distancing, avoiding/banning large events, and getting more people vaccinated.

Sounds like you're saying you bring a lot of anger to the world and people around you.
You are correct. I've been trapped at home with my immunocompromised girlfriend for 1.5 years and things are only getting worse. The uneducated, rural MAGA idiots are full of shit, they were the ones hoarding toilet paper and fighting over sanitizer, and then trump called it a hoax, and POOF, they were all CONVINCED it was liberal bullshit. Instantly! Suddenly every dumbass I grew up with who barely graduated high school started getting really loud, and really confident, that they knew more than me, they knew more than scientists, microbiologists, and medical professionals. Oh, except for the anti vax nurses. Why? Because nursing is for stupid people. If you are a smart person, you will likely have the gradepoint average to get into a 4 year college and get a real education. Nurses? I know a lot of nurses. Almost all of them were rudderless women with no direction in life, got knocked up by some idiot with no real future, and then needed a higher paying job than their current hair stylist job provided. They didn't want to move or relocate, and they are busy raising their stupid kid, so they tend to filter towards something quick/easy that provides a decent income/benefits, and in that case it's a 2 year degree in nursing. Again, some of the dumbest people I know are nurses. The smart ones went to college and became doctors, scientists, etc.

I really dont think the blue haired hipster sitting in San Francisco auditing fb flags is saying "Ah another liberal post from ca$h! I hate liberal posts, lets ban em".
I don't either. I think I was flagged by Facebook AI as a 'repeat offender'. All of my banning started last February, when I was talking to some friends on FB in a thread about track cars, which are often called "track sluts". I was INSTANTLY banned for saying track slut, about 2 seconds after I posted it for harassment/bullying. I was referring to a friend's car. An inanimate object. Track slut is a commonly used phrase. Facebook AI didn't care, and now my account is on 'high alert' and I keep getting banned for stupid fucking shit.

It's possible once you started talking about dick size that the fb algorithm thought you weren't old enough to use fb
Yeah, some people think it's immature, but I think it really does all boil down to dick size. If you have a tiny dick, you want to compensate for your manliness being inadequate, so that often results in replacing your personality with an obsession over firearms, thin blue line stickers and supporting a militarized police force, because you're a big tough badass. Virus? HA! I'm a big touch macho manly man. Aint no virus gonna hurt me. Again, projecting toughness due to tiny penis size.

I have a theory that it's ALL penis size, all of it. I had a discussion the other day about twitter but instead of just 'verified', you could send in a photo of your dick with a ruler, and they would verify if you were "big dick" or "little dick" on your profile, and my theory is that people with big dicks will likely be more compassionate, empathetic, and wanting society as a whole to move forward, and the tiny dicked people will likely have hyper masculine viewpoints that emphasize total independence, fuck the rest of society, they're tough and macho and don't need anyone.

Also, I recently realized that I have a HUGE dick, like 95% percentile big, and I had no idea about this until like 3-4 months ago. I knew I was slightly above average, but didn't know I was at the top of the charts. So ultimately, I don't care what you say or think because your dick is smaller than mine, and your viewpoints reflect your tiny dick.
     
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MacNN Challenge:

Pick from the following list the terms that best describe Rob:

- Compassionate
- Empathetic
- Hyper masculine
- Independence
- Tough
- Macho

Keep in mind - this is someone that goes around on social media talking about how he would punch people in the face. He doesn't actually do it, mind you, he just talks about how much he would punch people and beat them up.
     
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If some plague rat did that, I feel like that is a normal reaction.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
chup, I genuinely think you’re awesome, but you should probably take some of your own advice in regards to anger management. There’s a lot of hostility going on.
I do try to constantly improve as everyone should. My post wasnt meant to imply too much anger, attacking or dislike of cash. But I figured it would be interpreted that way, and I posted anyway. I think Im just misunderstood. I don’t have time for a lot of back forth so I just say everything in 1 or 2 posts then leave. That also leads to posts being too long so I hack together a lot of short simple blunt statements that easily come across as overly aggressive or undefended.

My assholishness I just viewed as speaking his language. I added some political trollishness as usual because the thread was already full of suppressed-anger style political gripes, and surprisingly, NO ONE was coming to defend the most innocent responsible ideologically superior side.

Im not convinced he’s gotten much better. His 1st post was gloating about the fights he get in, and the reason it was kinda civil was because he found mutual bonding over hating on a political side.
Occasionally he posts as if he wants to be a better person. That’s partly why he makes appeals to sympathy and victimhood. I don’t think he likes upsetting people so bad they give him death threats etc. People who lack self awareness as to the reasons they experience negative consequences, need their flaws pointed out. As for me, it works to my benefit when people point out my flaws Im unaware of, and I accept any negative consequences of how Im perceived based on my posts.
     
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Originally Posted by el chupacabra View Post
I don’t have time for a lot of back forth so I just say everything in 1 or 2 posts then leave.
It's also a great way to avoid engaging in a meaningful conversation and...gasp...honestly evaluating a different perspective. It's the MO of every right-winger that still posts here.

As for me, it works to my benefit when people point out my flaws Im unaware of,
Does it? Let's try.

If you respond to nothing else, please just substantiate this claim:

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FWIW most democrat politicians were anti vax back when they thought Trump might get credit for it being done under his term.
Can you find one national-level Democrat politician that is explicitly anti-vax and explicitly for the reason that Trump would get credit for the vaccine? Or can you find even one explicitly national-level Democrat anti-vax that later flip flopped? Okay, now can you substantiate "most"?

The antivax phenomenon is a worldwide problem, not just the US as democrats are claiming.
Can you substantiate this claim that Democrats say the anti-vax phenomenon is a US problem?

All they know is they've fallen for the free stuff narrative and they like free stuff. This is why they do everything they can to appeal to the least experienced most gullible groups, always pushing for younger and younger voters etc.. If nothing else matters then why are you talking politics with all these other people? There's so much wrong with this statement. So you're not willing to participate in your democracy unless and except for the free stuff issue that you falsely believe benefits you.
Is it ironic that people that talk about "the narrative" the most are the people most often buying into a narrative?

Here's a flaw: You've 100% bought into the right wing narrative. "Kids these days only want free stuff." Right wing narrative. "Europe is on the very of imploding at all times due to rampant socialism." Right wing narrative. "The Democrats are simultaneously weak and worthless jokes BUT ALSO control the entire world from the shadows." Right wing narrative. Your constant harping on whatever "culture war" narrative that right wing media is pushing. Right wing narrative. You complain about headline voters, but reading long-form right wing narrative stuff doesn't make you better educated, just more indoctrinated.

Hoping pointing out this flaw in your works to your benefit.
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Originally Posted by Laminar View Post
It's also a great way to avoid engaging in a meaningful conversation and...gasp...honestly evaluating a different perspective. It's the MO of every right-winger that still posts here.
Isn’t this the MO of most Internet “discussion”? Specifically it’s full of lectures and monologues masquerading as dialogue.

I try not to do this, but I’m certainly guilty. I may be doing it right now.
     
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Isn’t this the MO of most Internet “discussion”? Specifically it’s full of lectures and monologues masquerading as dialogue.

I try not to do this, but I’m certainly guilty. I may be doing it right now.
I'm talking specifically about the post twice and disappear for a month. El Chup does it, shif did it, Jawbone did it, Snow-i did it, turtle does it.

I think that real dialog does happen here. I also think that this place is a bit of a liberal echo chamber here as there are no regular "right wing" posters anymore, so there's not as much back-and-forth as there used to be. But a lot of that back and forth was just refuting bullshit that the right wing posters were parroting after spending too much time reading Daily Caller.
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Originally Posted by el chupacabra View Post
I don’t have time for a lot of back forth so I just say everything in 1 or 2 posts then leave. That also leads to posts being too long so I hack together a lot of short simple blunt statements that easily come across as overly aggressive or undefended.
I don't know about everyone else, but I'd much prefer if you spent the same amount of time just crafting and defending a single point. You're flinging a lot of shit at a wall with a catapult and running away, leaving everyone else to hose it off. You could spend the same amount of time or less making one valid, solid point, and then being willing to have a discussion and see it from someone else's point of view. You complain about "headline voters" but then put together an entire manifesto consisting solely of headlines straight from right wing media. Don't do that - pick one thing and dive in, you might actually learn something.
     
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Right wing is all about tiny dick energy, I'm convinced almost everything in our society has to do with dick size, and if you lack it, you compensate through firearms, or feigned independence/tough guy/thin blue line bullshit. Let's post dick sizes. I'll go first. 8". How about you Chup?

I'm guessing less than 5", hence why you've bought into this psuedo macho bullshit, because of your deep seated feelings of inadequacy.
     
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You sound like someone who's under six feet tall.
     
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Let's post dick sizes. I'll go first. 8".
I know some people like that, but I've heard complaints that that's just too damn wide.
     
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I'm statistically 50th percentile in terms of height, hand size, shoulder width etc. My feet and dong are super sized for some dumb reason.
     
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5'9" ouch. No wonder you're always trying to act tough and macho.
     
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That little man, big dick energy tho…..explains both the last twenty five years of MacNN and Kevin Hart’s career

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Since this thread is supposed to be about forum etiquette and such, how about we get back to that, instead of anatomical measurements…

And any threads about “compensation” with huge trucks, large firearms (especially without any actual knowledge of safety with any firearm) and personal “exploits” as believable as what used to show up in a certain “men’s magazine” Letters column, do not belong here.

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Tee hee
     
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How is statistically average little? I've never really given my height a second though, just seemed pretty normal to me. The only reason I know the percentile stuff is due to the ergonomics/human factors training I went through for product design. Literally had posters 1:1 scale on the wall and it was like someone traced me, lol
     
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How is statistically average little?
You can't make this shit up.
     
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I don't know why you would, as it doesn't make sense. But okay.
     
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Just an FYI…

Per the CDC, US adult male median height is 69.1 inches (that’s 5’9.1” for those of you who can’t do the conversion in their heads).

“Median” in this case is essentially the same as “average”, and it specifically means that half of the population is taller, while half is shorter.

We can’t actually have a situation where everybody is above average, because that’s not how “average” works.

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