[cSurfr]

Went to the apple store tonight and picked it up. I returned my 12" 867 that I got about 9 days ago, because of a faulty arrow key, and the case separating. The new 12 is great. Just got done running the UT2003 Demo for over 20 minutes and the machine is as cool as ever. In case a few people weren't sure, the machine does come with the mini dvi to dvi adapter, as well as the mini dvi to vga. Also, the restore dvd says OS X 10.2.7 on it. I formated the machine as soon as I got it so I didnt look for sure. Anyway, if you have any questions feel free to ask away!


cs

[jetta_gt]

Any battery life observations?

[CrackedButter]

Does it play Sim City 4 or Warcraft 3 well?

[nobitacu]

Very nice, good switch! hehehe.

Ming

[Chemmy]

I worked my first day at a computer store here on Friday, and we got like 20 12" 1ghz PBs that morning.

They were all spoken for. It sucks because my friend wants one so bad, and the waiting is killing him. I wanted to give him one so bad.

[legacyb4]

Can you partition with the Restore DVD?

Cheers.

Originally posted by cSurfr:
Went to the apple store tonight and picked it up. I returned my 12" 867 that I got about 9 days ago, because of a faulty arrow key, and the case separating. The new 12 is great. Just got done running the UT2003 Demo for over 20 minutes and the machine is as cool as ever. In case a few people weren't sure, the machine does come with the mini dvi to dvi adapter, as well as the mini dvi to vga. Also, the restore dvd says OS X 10.2.7 on it. I formated the machine as soon as I got it so I didnt look for sure. Anyway, if you have any questions feel free to ask away!


cs

[im_noahselby]

cSurfr,

How is the screen compared to the 15" and 17" models? Does it still use the same screen the iBook uses?

Noah

[dennis88]

How does it handle games like unreal tournament2003?

[cSurfr]

I will answer every one of those questions as I can.


How is the screen compared to the 15" and 17" models? Does it still use the same screen the iBook uses?

I believe the screen to be different as I think it's brighter than the iBook 600 I had a year or so ago. However, I think that the screen on my 867 12" was brighter than the one on my 1ghz. Maybe it's just me though.




Can you partition with the Restore DVD?

Not sure, let me look into it.

Does it play Sim City 4 or Warcraft 3 well?

Don't have SC4, but let me install WC3 and I will let you know. My 867 played WC3 fairly well I thought, so this one must be a little better.


How does it handle games like unreal tournament2003?


Just got done playing this game, and it flies. I was running at 800x600 with everything maxxed. I don't know why the box says the 12" isn't supported. Even my 867 ran this game very well. In fact the guy I played with tonight was on an 12" 867, and he didn't have any problems.

I will try to answer the other questions as soon as possible (tomorrow)



cs

[dennis88]

Originally posted by cSurfr:
I will answer every one of those questions as I can.


How is the screen compared to the 15" and 17" models? Does it still use the same screen the iBook uses?

I believe the screen to be different as I think it's brighter than the iBook 600 I had a year or so ago. However, I think that the screen on my 867 12" was brighter than the one on my 1ghz. Maybe it's just me though.




Can you partition with the Restore DVD?

Not sure, let me look into it.

Does it play Sim City 4 or Warcraft 3 well?

Don't have SC4, but let me install WC3 and I will let you know. My 867 played WC3 fairly well I thought, so this one must be a little better.


How does it handle games like unreal tournament2003?


Just got done playing this game, and it flies. I was running at 800x600 with everything maxxed. I don't know why the box says the 12" isn't supported. Even my 867 ran this game very well. In fact the guy I played with tonight was on an 12" 867, and he didn't have any problems.

I will try to answer the other questions as soon as possible (tomorrow)



cs

How many fps did you get in ut2k3?

[cSurfr]

Tell me the command to check, and i will let you know

[sebaz]

Does it get as hot as the previous 12 in?

What about case warping?

my 12 in. gets pretty toasty, and i have notice sum minimal case warpin

[Nessie]

Originally posted by sebaz:
Does it get as hot as the previous 12 in?

What about case warping?

my 12 in. gets pretty toasty, and i have notice sum minimal case warpin

Yes, these are my concerns, too. Also, how is the noise level? Does the fan come on a lot, and if so, how loud is it?

[cSurfr]

Originally posted by Nessie:
Yes, these are my concerns, too. Also, how is the noise level? Does the fan come on a lot, and if so, how loud is it?

First off, this thing has YET to get hot at all, even charging the battery. YMMV, but for me it's very cool. Also, the fan only came on once so far, and that was while playing UT2003. Even then the machine wasn't any more warm that normal. My 867 was a smoker when it came to doing a lot of intensive tasks, this one doesn't seem to do that at all. Also, in response to all of the dead pixel posts i've read...I've had 2 new Albooks in the last week, neither of them had any dead or stuck pixels.

cs

[legacyb4]

So you are saying that under the same types of conditions, the new 12" doesn't get nearly as warm or even hot as the "old" 12" model?

That's a significant point in swaying me to go with a PB instead of an iBook after all...

Cheers.

Originally posted by cSurfr:
First off, this thing has YET to get hot at all, even charging the battery. YMMV, but for me it's very cool. Also, the fan only came on once so far, and that was while playing UT2003. Even then the machine wasn't any more warm that normal. My 867 was a smoker when it came to doing a lot of intensive tasks, this one doesn't seem to do that at all. Also, in response to all of the dead pixel posts i've read...I've had 2 new Albooks in the last week, neither of them had any dead or stuck pixels.

cs

[x user]

From what I saw of the demo 1ghz down at the Apple store, the display is very similer to the iBook but with more contrast perhaps. The machine much faster than the 867 they had right next to it.

Like to know about the game performace myself, any stats on RTCW or others would be appreciated. Looking to pick mine up monday if I get the call .

[CrackedButter]

What about the Warcraft 3 performance?

[WOPR]

Originally posted by CrackedButter:
Does it play Sim City 4 or Warcraft 3 well?

I play SC4 on my 12" 867 and it runs a treat. Haven't installed the patch yet though.

[CrackedButter]

Can you give me any more details on the performance on these 2 games. now that i have cancelled the 15" i might get the 12" instead and i want these 2 games, W3 i have but it runs crap on my iBook hence the desire for a powerbook.

[videian28]

mine arrives today, any info on battery life?

[WOPR]

Sim City 4 runs just fine. Nice and smooth and I have no issues with it, and I have an original 867mhz 12" PB. I will be installing the patch though out of curiosity.

[CrackedButter]

Is this with max settings as well? Its no use to me if you say it runs fine and you are not telling me you have to keep all the settings all at low.

[dennis88]

What xbench score do you get?

[AssassyN]

Have you outputted to an Apple Display by chance? How's it look?

[celliott47]

Shipping Update:
I ordered my new 12" PowerBook on Monday, September 22 from the Apple store for education. Had an estimated shipping date of 10/1. I got a message on Friday, 9/26 that it had shipped and expected delivery date was Tues 9/30. Well, FedEx just rang my doorbell- new PB arrives 9/29, one week after I ordered it. Just starting to play with it.

FedEx is great!

[dennis88]

Originally posted by celliott47:
Shipping Update:
I ordered my new 12" PowerBook on Monday, September 22 from the Apple store for education. Had an estimated shipping date of 10/1. I got a message on Friday, 9/26 that it had shipped and expected delivery date was Tues 9/30. Well, FedEx just rang my doorbell- new PB arrives 9/29, one week after I ordered it. Just starting to play with it.

FedEx is great!

Congrats!

[gh001]

Originally posted by dennis88:
Congrats!

Hi,

Has anyone tried Medal of Honor on the new PB 12�? I�m planning to buy a new PB 12�, and I just wonder how does the GeForce FX 5200Go handle it?

Thanks
G-Man

[xGrape]

Ordered mine only a couple hours after the release (AppleStore Europe), and today they told me it would ship this week, and to allow a further 4-7 days for shipment. I added a larger hard drive and some more ram though...

Can't wait to try UT2003, if it runs as good as people say. Cos it sucks on my flat-screen iMac.

[dennis88]

Originally posted by xGrape:
Ordered mine only a couple hours after the release (AppleStore Europe), and today they told me it would ship this week, and to allow a further 4-7 days for shipment. I added a larger hard drive and some more ram though...

Can't wait to try UT2003, if it runs as good as people say. Cos it sucks on my flat-screen iMac.

I wouldn't expect too much of the 12" when it comes to gaming.

Gratulerer med ny powerbook! (in norwegian)

[cSurfr]

Here are the xbench scores:

Score - 104.09
CPU - 91.32
Quartz graphics - 116.14
OpenGL - 83.27 @ 58 FPS

These are what i would imagine you would all want. This was run on a stock 1ghz with 256mb. Also running 10.3 (7B80)


Good or Bad ?


cs

[eScrib]

I've heard Panther is so much more optimized than Jaguar, that XBennch scores are substantially higher than when performed in Jaguar.

Just something to keep in mind.


But still... The numbers do look good. And considering X.3 is right around the corner....