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I don't know if anyone noticed this or posted about it, could be, but Mozilla.org recently decided to stop developing Mozilla for the Classic OS. (The news is at MozillaZine) Some of you who still boot into 9 or 8 may think pulling Classic from the tree may be a bad thing, but 1.2.1 and 1.02 are still there. For OS X users, this is actually a good thing. Before this retirement, the nightly X builds and releases were CFM builds, using bits of code from and for OS 9. Now, the builds use only Mach-O, native X code, which among other thing, means Mozilla is faster.
I recently tried Mozilla 1.3b and was pleasantly surprised. the speed is very good, on par or near Safari, and it is more compliant than Safari. Now if Mozilla could only offer an installer that allowed us to pick the modules we wanted to install.
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Originally posted by pliny:
Now if Mozilla could only offer an installer that allowed us to pick the modules we wanted to install.
The hell of it is, they do offer this on other platforms. But for some reason, with OSX they decided on the drag-and-drop installation, which is admittedly nice for some things, but some -I daresay most- of us don't want the mail/news component and only slightly more than that want ChatZilla (though I happen to like it a lot, so I still want the option, but there's no need to include it automatically).
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Mozilla 1.3b isn't anywhere near as fast as Safari on my old iMac! Slow and bad font rendering. Ugh, the least you could use is Chimera.
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Long live Mozilla. Can you feel it people? OS 9 is dead...!
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I could take Sean Connery in a fight... I could definitely take him.
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Originally posted by Millennium:
The hell of it is, they do offer this on other platforms. But for some reason, with OSX they decided on the drag-and-drop installation, which is admittedly nice for some things, but some -I daresay most- of us don't want the mail/news component and only slightly more than that want ChatZilla (though I happen to like it a lot, so I still want the option, but there's no need to include it automatically).
I think it's weird too, for the OS 9 builds you can choose the modules you want, not so for X. 
I always tend to prefer Moz over Chimera, not sure why, just is always a bit more stable for me.
One of the good things aobut Moz is that it's very compliant; and now its faster. I'm glad Mozilla is still being developed (and Chimera, which seems to have slowed since Safari  ).
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Wow! Nice speed bump in the Mach-O version!
Try adding Tabbrowser Extensions. Between them and the speed-up, Moz has just become my default browser again. 
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The builds are getting faster and faster. The latest nightly really zooms.
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I thought they'd had mach-o nightlies for a year or so now?
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Originally posted by Angus_D:
I thought they'd had mach-o nightlies for a year or so now?
I don't know if they were nightly mach-o builds, but the mach-o builds y didn't have all the functionality of the nightly builds, and they weren't very stable. The Mac nightlies and releases will now be all mach-o.
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Originally posted by Angus_D:
I thought they'd had mach-o nightlies for a year or so now?
There were nightlies, but they were always unofficial. Now, the official Mozilla Mac tree is Mach-O, and as a result the improvements are going there.
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The latest Mozilla nightlies are very fast and stable. I noticed in the most recent that under the cache options in the prefs, there is a now a "link prefetching" option. Turning it on "prefetches web pages when idle, so that links in web pages designed for prefetching load faster."
I think the latest Mozilla is faster than Camino.
I wonder if Camino will pick this up when it goes back on the trunk/tree to pick up Gecko changes.
One thing that Mozilla's never had is the arrows to access bled bookmarks from the bookmarks toolbar, like every other browser does. This is stupid.
edit: The latest nightly really hauls ass!
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