[Chongo]

Originally Posted by subego 

I don't disagree on Shaddim's point (or yours) WRT government aid vs. altruism. What I'm disagreeing about is whether the statement "you're lucky you have that" was meant as a dismissal of effort.

I took it as your area is lucky that it has NGO's

Catholic Charities has a presence all diocese n the US. Catholic Charities USA Too bad they may be forced to close their doors.

[Chongo]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

Give it up. Tying the bible to modern day capitalism is just pointless, even if we all subscribed to the same religion.

It's about human nature.

[ebuddy]

Originally Posted by besson3c 

Give it up. Tying the bible to modern day capitalism is just pointless, even if we all subscribed to the same religion.

I suspect this will be the case whenever folks try to tie the Bible to modern day welfare. Otherwise, I'm not sure the Bible would have come up at all.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by subego 

Sure it did.
Just because it wasn't codified yet doesn't mean it didn't exist.

The codified part is important though, because with modern day capitalism and its evolution over the years comes a number of institutions to support it.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by Chongo 

It's about human nature.

So then make your point.

Why do people generally have to coax you to make your point? I don't get why you don't just habitually make your point so that we have something to talk about.

[besson3c]

Originally Posted by ebuddy 

I suspect this will be the case whenever folks try to tie the Bible to modern day welfare. Otherwise, I'm not sure the Bible would have come up at all.

It does seem to come up frequently when we discuss welfare, although I don't think it should. Modern day welfare is a component of modern day capitalism, it needs to be examined within the prism of modern day capitalism and all that comes with it. Therefore, biblical arguments are pretty much pointless, again, even if every American was on the exact same religious page.