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turtle777 · Sep 5, 2006, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

Ive been gone for awhile whats going on?
1) climber is still being a ***hole
what did i miss?

Don't you have homework to do ?

-t

turtle777 · Sep 5, 2006, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by Kerrigan

This reminds me of a story from Bible College

-t

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

His life seems to have proven that he was able to handle the big risks. It was a normal swim with a supposedly docile animal that did him in.

Sucks that that was the way he died

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 04:08 PM

GOOD GOD we're on page 6 already!

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Don't you have homework to do ?

-t

Finished on friday

climber · Sep 5, 2006, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

His life seems to have proven that he was able to handle the big risks. It was a normal swim with a supposedly docile animal that did him in.

I think that is just an Illusion. There is a concept in mountaineering based on "time in the danger zone". Simply put the more time you spend in dangerous places the more likely you are to die. There is also a saying: There are old climbers and their are bold climbers, but there are very few old bold climbers. I personally gave up being bold in the mountains, mostly because I want to get old.

Chuckit · Sep 5, 2006, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by climber

I think that is just an Illusion. There is a concept in mountaineering based on "time in the danger zone". Simply put the more time you spend in dangerous places the more likely you are to die.

What, like magic? You think he cursed himself by capturing crocodiles?

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by climber

I think that is just an Illusion. There is a concept in mountaineering based on "time in the danger zone". Simply put the more time you spend in dangerous places the more likely you are to die. There is also a saying: There are old climbers and their are bold climbers, but there are very few old bold climbers. I personally gave up being bold in the mountains, mostly because I want to get old.

He WAS able to handle big risks. As for being in dangerous places when he died he wasn't in a dangerous place.

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 04:17 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

What, like magic? You think he cursed himself by capturing crocodiles?

climber · Sep 5, 2006, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

He WAS able to handle big risks. As for being in dangerous places when he died he wasn't in a dangerous place.

I was not talking about swimming with the stingrays. I certainly understand at least the perceived risk is less that his methods for feeding crocks. But then I am certainly not an expert or even familiar with stingrays in that part of the world.

If by "handle" do you mean he was able to minimize the risks then I would agree with you. But he was certainly not able to eliminate them. He looked danger in the mouth so to speak, and that is how he liked it. I can respect him for that even if I disagree with it.

climber · Sep 5, 2006, 04:31 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

What, like magic? You think he cursed himself by capturing crocodiles?

No I think he got to close to a stingray. Unfortunately the hindsight is 20/20 on the matter! Do you disagree?

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by climber

I was not talking about swimming with the stingrays. I certainly understand at least the perceived risk is less that his methods for feeding crocks. But then I am certainly not an expert or even familiar with stingrays in that part of the world.

If by "handle" do you mean he was able to minimize the risks then I would agree with you. But he was certainly not able to eliminate them. He looked danger in the mouth so to speak, and that is how he liked it. I can respect him for that even if I disagree with it.

That is what i mean by handle.

typoon · Sep 5, 2006, 04:33 PM

Originally Posted by climber

I was not talking about swimming with the stingrays. I certainly understand at least the perceived risk is less that his methods for feeding crocks. But then I am certainly not an expert or even familiar with stingrays in that part of the world.

If by "handle" do you mean he was able to minimize the risks then I would agree with you. But he was certainly not able to eliminate them. He looked danger in the mouth so to speak, and that is how he liked it. I can respect him for that even if I disagree with it.

You can't really eliminate danger in anything.There is danger in any sport or job. Some more than others.

"If ever he was going to go, we always said it was going to be the ocean," Stainton said. "On land he was agile, quick-thinking, quick-moving and the ocean puts another element there that you have no control over."- USA Today

"Experts have said the stingray may have felt trapped between the cameraman and the TV star. Irwin, the popular host of "Crocodile Hunter," rose to fame by getting dangerously close to crocodiles, snakes and other beasts.

But Queensland Police Superintendent Michael Keating said there was no evidence Irwin threatened or intimidated the stingray, a normally placid species that only deploys its poisonous tail spines as a defense."- USA Today

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by typoon

You can't really eliminate danger in anything.There is danger in any sport or job. Some more than others.

"If ever he was going to go, we always said it was going to be the ocean," Stainton said. "On land he was agile, quick-thinking, quick-moving and the ocean puts another element there that you have no control over."- USA Today

"Experts have said the stingray may have felt trapped between the cameraman and the TV star. Irwin, the popular host of "Crocodile Hunter," rose to fame by getting dangerously close to crocodiles, snakes and other beasts.

But Queensland Police Superintendent Michael Keating said there was no evidence Irwin threatened or intimidated the stingray, a normally placid species that only deploys its poisonous tail spines as a defense."- USA Today

Exactaly!

Chuckit · Sep 5, 2006, 04:36 PM

Originally Posted by climber

No I think he got to close to a stingray. Unfortunately the hindsight is 20/20 on the matter! Do you disagree?

Yeah, much like people who go out on the road where somebody is driving drunk. I don't blame people for putting themselves in unforeseeable danger.

climber · Sep 5, 2006, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Yeah, much like people who go out on the road where somebody is driving drunk. I don't blame people for putting themselves in unforeseeable danger.

So I guess you are right then since Steve Irwin was not known for pushing the limits with animals that are considered dangerous. Give me a break.

Do you really think he was able to reduce his risks to the point of driving a car? Boy you are delusional.

Spliff · Sep 5, 2006, 04:47 PM

Too bad he wasn't wearing a chainmail sharksuit; it would've saved his life. But it's not his style.

Chuckit · Sep 5, 2006, 04:47 PM

Originally Posted by climber

So I guess you are right then since Steve Irwin was not known for pushing the limits with animals that are considered dangerous.

Irrelevant since that is not what he was doing at the time.

climber · Sep 5, 2006, 04:50 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Irrelevant since that is not what he was doing at the time.

Yeah it's not like a stingray or other wild creatures are dangerous or anything if you get to close to them

Chuckit · Sep 5, 2006, 04:53 PM

As every article on this subject has pointed out, no, nobody perceived any danger until he was already dead.

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 04:53 PM

climber, why won't you die in a fire already?

Chuckit · Sep 5, 2006, 04:54 PM

EDIT: Ne'ermind.

climber · Sep 5, 2006, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

climber, why won't you die in a fire already?

So you want to go back to that level again so soon? Hold on why I go get my waders back on.

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 04:55 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

EDIT: Ne'ermind.

never mind what?

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 04:56 PM

Originally Posted by climber

So you want to go back to that level again so soon? Hold on why I go get my waders back on.

You bet!

climber · Sep 5, 2006, 05:00 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

As every article on this subject has pointed out, no, nobody perceived any danger until he was already dead.

Look it is really simple. I think he got to close. He did it all the time. He even got into some legal trouble recently in Antarctica about it.

Chuckit · Sep 5, 2006, 05:07 PM

Originally Posted by climber

Look it is really simple. I think he got to close.

Yes, it really is that simple. All the eyewitnesses and experts say one thing, you imagine another.

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 05:08 PM

Originally Posted by climber

Look it is really simple. I think he got to close. He did it all the time. He even got into some legal trouble recently in Antarctica about it.

He got too close on accident. plus its not "to" its "too", go check out he grammar thread.

climber · Sep 5, 2006, 05:14 PM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

He got too close on accident. plus its not "to" its "too", go check out he grammar thread.

Yea, he "accidently" fell into the water, then "accidently" swam near a stingray...what was that they were doing?

Oh I remember filming Steve swimming with the stingrays.

climber · 05:32 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Yes, it really is that simple. All the eyewitnesses and experts say one thing, you imagine another.

Why not read this then

http://news.ninemsn.com.au/article.aspx?id=127458

Here is an excerpt:

Marine documentary maker Ben Cropp, who spoke to one of Mr Irwin's crew, said: "Steve got probably maybe a bit too close to the ray, and with the cameraman in front, the ray must have felt sort of cornered.

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by climber

Yea, he "accidently" fell into the water, then "accidently" swam near a stingray...what was that they were doing?

Oh I remember filming Steve swimming with the stingrays.

He didn't accidently fall in the water. and that article has othing to do with what we are talking about.

climber · Sep 5, 2006, 05:26 PM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

He didn't accidently fall in the water. and that article has othing to do with what we are talking about.

I think I posted the wrong link. I will fix it in a minute. The photographer is quoted as saying that Steve probably got to close.

Chuckit · Sep 5, 2006, 05:30 PM

EDIT: Posted too soon.

Monique · Sep 5, 2006, 05:32 PM

He was known to take stupid risks.

Wild animals are not pets.

Chuckit · 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by Monique

He was known to take stupid risks.

Wild animals are not pets.

o rly?

I would like to note that pets kill people too.

climber · Sep 5, 2006, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Monique

He was known to take stupid risks.

Wild animals are not pets.

Here is an article I found that I think discusses this point with some sensitivity:

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au...0-7583,00.html

ebuddy · Sep 5, 2006, 05:41 PM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

He got too close on accident. plus its not "to" its "too", go check out he grammar thread.

"go check out he grammar thread" and "Exactaly!"

waxcrash · Sep 5, 2006, 05:43 PM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

No out of respect, and it has sufaced on the internet

Really? How do you know this? I call BS.

Everything I've read says that the tape was not released to the public and that Queensland police took a copy for a coroner's investigation.

Chuckit · Sep 5, 2006, 05:48 PM

Yeah, I don't see it anywhere.

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 05:54 PM

Originally Posted by waxcrash

Really? How do you know this? I call BS.

Everything I've read says that the tape was not released to the public and that Queensland police took a copy for a coroner's investigation.

thats what i meant.

climber · Sep 5, 2006, 05:59 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

Yeah, I don't see it anywhere.

I promised I would not look! (hands over his eyes looking through the fingers)

I actually find the idea of posting it on the internet sickening. That is assuming is was some Ahole in the coroners office that releases it. But If his wife and family decide that is how best to honor Steve and his wishes, I am certainly ok with that.

Cody Dawg · Sep 5, 2006, 06:25 PM

Wow!

I've been away for the afternoon and I come back and this is SUCH entertaining reading that I just have to sit here and read it while eating my Orville Redenbacher's Steve Irwin Special Edition Stingray Popcorn - it comes with CHEESE - and I'm going to enter the contest on the package where I'll win a copy of the video of Steve Irwin dying underwater...

That's where this thread is at now, right?

turtle777 · Sep 5, 2006, 06:27 PM

Has anyone mentioned yet that crocodiles are gay ?

-t

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Has anyone mentioned yet that crocodiles are gay ?

-t

Does this have something to do with southpark?

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by Cody Dawg

Wow!

I've been away for the afternoon and I come back and this is SUCH entertaining reading that I just have to sit here and read it while eating my Orville Redenbacher's Steve Irwin Special Edition Stingray Popcorn - it comes with CHEESE - and I'm going to enter the contest on the package where I'll win a copy of the video of Steve Irwin dying underwater...

That's where this thread is at now, right?

We're about to go page 7!

climber · Sep 5, 2006, 06:32 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Has anyone mentioned yet that crocodiles are gay ?

-t

I thought it was hunters... just don't combine the two words! Otherwise I they will start roasting marshmallows again !

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by climber

I thought it was hunters... just don't combine the two words! Otherwise I they will start roasting marshmallows again !

*marshmallows roasting (again)*

turtle777 · Sep 5, 2006, 06:36 PM

Pluth Won !

-t

C.A.T.S. CEO · Sep 5, 2006, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by what_the_heck

Pluth Won !

-t

turtle777 · Sep 5, 2006, 06:40 PM

Originally Posted by C.A.T.S. CEO

Hehe, gotcha !

-t