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Sig-newbie: how to create w/o passing the 10 kB barrier?
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euphras
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Aug 20, 2004, 12:47 PM
 
So i�m new to sig-design and every time i want to create a sig in Photoshop i end up in about 30-40 kB (200*50 pixel, RGB, jpeg low quality settings) Can you point me out how to create a colored sig that is conform with the sig-guidelines??

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Aug 20, 2004, 12:48 PM
 
increase the rate of compression by using the slider.

save for web.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 12:49 PM
 
In Photoshop go to "Save For Web..." instead of just "Save." This will give you all the options you need.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 12:49 PM
 
That was rather fast, thanks for the quick respond guys


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Aug 20, 2004, 02:39 PM
 
ImageReady is better, since you can preview how it looks as you change the file size dynamically.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 03:02 PM
 
uhh, i think the "save for web..." option is powered by image ready. at least photoshop cs does it anyway. not sure about other versions. when i save I get live updating.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 03:03 PM
 
Originally posted by GoGoReggieXPowars:
ImageReady is better, since you can preview how it looks as you change the file size dynamically.
You can do that in Photoshop. After you select 'save for web' you can view the original image, optimized, 2-up, or 4-up. This has been in Photoshop since version 5.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 03:30 PM
 
i have foind that if you export a .png out of photoshop and then open it up in preview and export it out of there as a jpe (options-> 100% but make the bit size like 8500 or 9000) that that works reliably for me.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 03:33 PM
 
Thanks for the input, albeit i have ImageReady i�ll give it a try in PS.


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Aug 20, 2004, 03:45 PM
 
I don't know what size my sig is an I don't want to.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 03:48 PM
 
Abuse reportet, you sig-guideline violator

















No.....just kidding


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Aug 20, 2004, 04:15 PM
 
Originally posted by TheBadgerHunter:
I don't know what size my sig is an I don't want to.
It's 20K... a little too hefty.
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Aug 20, 2004, 04:24 PM
 
Originally posted by MacNStein:
It's 20K... a little too hefty.
Not to mention 66 px tall. Not that I care, I have cable internet connection Screw the 56K people, they should have updated by now.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 10:54 PM
 
Originally posted by MacMan4000:
Screw the 56K people, they should have updated by now.
You just know there's some poor kid in a grass hut in Uganda crying because The Lounge is taking too long to load.
Do you want forgiveness or respect?
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 11:05 PM
 
Well THANK YOU MacMan4000. DemonHood just busted my ass...
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 11:10 PM
 
Oh, that's why I still saw the tags�
I just use gif's instead. I was thinking about something though: could I use the same thing MindFad does with his sig for text? I was thinking you could just have a narrow strip the size of the standard text and have it update new quotes. Then I wouldn't have to change it.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 11:11 PM
 
Cheat. My sig was even animated forever and nobody noticed.



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Aug 20, 2004, 11:19 PM
 
Originally posted by MacMan4000:
Screw the 56K people, they should have updated by now.
About half of the US and about 80% of Europe is still on 56k. Despite what Voodoo tells you, dialup is not dead.

For getting your sig size down: If you use PNG, run it through pngcrush. That usually nets a 10% or so reduction for me, depending of course on the details of the image.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 11:28 PM
 
I would like to apologize on behalf of all the high-speed internet people. I have chosen to keep my sig small, the size of the old regulations... just for you slow ass 56k people.
     
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Aug 20, 2004, 11:32 PM
 
Originally posted by MacMan4000:
I would like to apologize on behalf of all the high-speed internet people. I have chosen to keep my sig small, the size of the old regulations... just for you slow ass 56k people.
I'm keeping mine small because I think it looks better. The new dimensions don't add anything, in my opinion.
     
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Aug 21, 2004, 12:13 AM
 
Yes they do. I'd love a 70x225 dimension. It all depends on your:
Imagination.
     
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Aug 21, 2004, 12:14 AM
 
Originally posted by CreepingDeath:
Yes they do. I'd love a 70x225 dimension. It all depends on your:
Imagination.
I said "in my opinion."

In my opinion, your sig is pug fugly. Not just ugly, and not just fugly, but pug fugly. Not to mention its idiotic message.
     
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Aug 21, 2004, 12:24 AM
 
Yours looks bad too.
I don't even know what the hell your small lil sig means! Besides, it's also a Metallica album, well the art is. You hate it because you're a liberal.
     
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Aug 21, 2004, 12:38 AM
 
Originally posted by wataru:
About half of the US and about 80% of Europe is still on 56k. Despite what Voodoo tells you, dialup is not dead.

For getting your sig size down: If you use PNG, run it through pngcrush. That usually nets a 10% or so reduction for me, depending of course on the details of the image.
80% where did you get those stats?
     
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Aug 21, 2004, 12:48 AM
 
Originally posted by moonmonkey:
80% where did you get those stats?
Oops, my mistake: European broadband penetration to reach 20 per cent this year. They actually don't say what what percentage of internet users are on broadband vs. dialup.
     
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Aug 21, 2004, 12:48 AM
 
Originally posted by george68:
Cheat. My sig was even animated forever and nobody noticed.



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Aug 21, 2004, 12:57 AM
 
Me like bigger sigs.

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Aug 21, 2004, 02:24 AM
 
i think i'll create one, even though i am ultra newb at this.
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Aug 21, 2004, 10:38 AM
 
Originally posted by wataru:
If you use PNG, run it through pngcrush.
Don't bother, just use SuperPNG since you'll be in PS or IR anyway.
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Aug 21, 2004, 11:32 AM
 
I recommend 'Save For Web' in PS, you can see the quality and file size, all you need ...

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Aug 21, 2004, 11:42 AM
 
Originally posted by ReggieX:
Don't bother, just use SuperPNG since you'll be in PS or IR anyway.
I don't use Photoshop or ImageReady, and when I did I got poor results with SuperPNG. Maybe I didn't tweak it enough, but the fact remains that I don't use those apps. pngcrush isn't a plugin, so I'm not tied to any one app.
     
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Aug 21, 2004, 12:11 PM
 
...or just make something simple.
     
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Aug 21, 2004, 12:49 PM
 
For the reports: finished one first sig last night (yes, the Photoshop "save for web" options worked great!). Thanks guys and gals

next prob: registered a free Angelfire webspace account, loaded the sig up, copied and pasted the image location, but instead of my sig only a "hosted by Angelfire" logo showed up. Does Angelfire not permit direct linking (or whatever it�s called)?
     
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Aug 21, 2004, 01:57 PM
 
Obviously not. You'll need to get a host that doesn't suck.
     
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Aug 21, 2004, 02:01 PM
 
Any hints for a free one would be great
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Aug 21, 2004, 03:30 PM
 
Originally posted by wataru:
I don't use Photoshop or ImageReady, and when I did I got poor results with SuperPNG. Maybe I didn't tweak it enough, but the fact remains that I don't use those apps. pngcrush isn't a plugin, so I'm not tied to any one app.
Hey, I'm just offering other solutions people may not have heard of. I use Graphic Converter.
     
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Aug 22, 2004, 05:47 AM
 
Originally posted by euphras:
So i�m new to sig-design and every time i want to create a sig in Photoshop i end up in about 30-40 kB (200*50 pixel, RGB, jpeg low quality settings) Can you point me out how to create a colored sig that is conform with the sig-guidelines??
well, depending on what "kind" of sig you want to do, you might like to try either a .jpg, .gif, or .png format.

anything that involves a larger "color depth" you will probably find that .jpg compression gives you the best quality/size ratio. only a few colors, .gif is probably the kind of compression you want to use. you can always try .png as well (sometimes it's a good middle of the road solution).

if you don't like the results you are getting with ps/ir try an app called "fireworks". it's really good for making web graphics.

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