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stevesnj
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Jul 25, 2006, 05:14 PM
 
hopefully The Beatles are on there soon.
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Jul 25, 2006, 05:22 PM
 
I don't understand why if someone wants them so bad they just don't buy the CD online.

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Jul 25, 2006, 05:25 PM
 
And still no Tool...
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Jul 25, 2006, 08:00 PM
 
Finally, I never thought it would happen.

Of course, now I can scoff at their charging full price for 20 year old albums.
     
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Jul 25, 2006, 08:48 PM
 
Originally Posted by Lateralus
And still no Tool...
Good.
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Jul 25, 2006, 08:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by Lateralus
And still no Tool...
I have a feeling that part of the reason there is no Tool is because Tool's CDs are so much more than just the music.

A PDF booklet doesn't quite have the full effect.

The package itself is a work of art.
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Jul 25, 2006, 08:56 PM
 
Been there, pirated that. Lars.
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Jul 25, 2006, 08:58 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy
Been there, pirated that. Lars.
now that is funny - i will download a few of their songs from itunes -

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Jul 25, 2006, 08:59 PM
 
for stuff like Beatles or Metallica, I'd rather have the CD.

I still prefer CDs to the iTMS, anyway, but the more they have, the better, IMO.

Although I do find it surprising that they dont have the Beatles, and only recently got Metallica...

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Jul 25, 2006, 09:33 PM
 
Originally Posted by Lateralus
And still no Tool...
Lars isn't enough tool for you?
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Jul 25, 2006, 09:50 PM
 
Originally Posted by Landos Mustache
I don't understand why if someone wants them so bad they just don't buy the CD online.

For the obvious reason why I like iTMS, I dont have to buy all their CD's just for few songs from each, I will save money in the long run. I rarely buy entire CD's from iTMS. I mostly buy 1 or 2 tracks from a cd.
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Jul 25, 2006, 11:43 PM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
Lars isn't enough tool for you?
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Jul 26, 2006, 12:27 AM
 
I always wanted to pirate some of their stuff just for the principle. But that would require having that crap on my hard drive.
     
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Jul 26, 2006, 01:01 AM
 
What are these performers waiting for?

IMHO, you shouldn't be all that surprised that kids are stealing your music online when you don't offer a convenient legal alternative. I'm NOT condoning stealing music, but I'm just not surprised.
     
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Jul 26, 2006, 10:51 AM
 
Originally Posted by Salty
I always wanted to pirate some of their stuff just for the principle. But that would require having that crap on my hard drive.
i had, and laughed heartily at with some friends, that POS st anger album before it hit the streets. so amazingly bad.
     
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Jul 26, 2006, 11:19 AM
 
While it's about time they are on iTunes. I'm still not givin them a dime. Sorry but their whole issue with Napster in the begining instead of helping to solve the problem they were the problem. besides that. Their new stuff doesn't compare to their older stuff.
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Jul 26, 2006, 12:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by davesimondotcom
I have a feeling that part of the reason there is no Tool is because Tool's CDs are so much more than just the music.
Yeah, it's a whole Yin/Yang thing. The music sucks, but the packaging is cool. How can you sell crappy music on iTunes and only have a semi-cool PDF to go with it?
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Jul 26, 2006, 02:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by Salty
I always wanted to pirate some of their stuff just for the principle. But that would require having that crap on my hard drive.
And being in America, no?
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Jul 26, 2006, 02:55 PM
 
Originally Posted by typoon
While it's about time they are on iTunes. I'm still not givin them a dime. Sorry but their whole issue with Napster in the begining instead of helping to solve the problem they were the problem. besides that. Their new stuff doesn't compare to their older stuff.
How were they the problem? They are absolutely right about having their music stolen. They went the extra mile to prosecute those who willingly stole their music without paying them. The copyright, aquisition, reproduction laws are there for their benefit and they had the total right to do what they did.
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Jul 26, 2006, 03:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by stevesnj
How were they the problem? They are absolutely right about having their music stolen. They went the extra mile to prosecute those who willingly stole their music without paying them. The copyright, aquisition, reproduction laws are there for their benefit and they had the total right to do what they did.
They had the right... but their fans also had the right to say "F@#$ YOU!"

Metallica promoted the copying of their music back in the cassette days when it served them (getting their name out there)... but when it no longer was to their benefit... they were viciously against it.

In 2000, Ulrich really came off looking like an absolute egomaniac... completely out of touch with his audience [many who helped get the band to where they were]. Many criticized Metallica as "living on the royalties of their aging library." To be blunt, their sales really fell off after "And Justice for All" and "Metallica" came out. They went from selling 10+ million to hardly being able to sell 3 million albums.

It was PR suicide...

I think everyone (at least in the US) realized that downloading music for free was somewhat wrong, but listening to him... you would have thought it was a felony crime... instead of simply copyright infringement.
     
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Jul 26, 2006, 03:34 PM
 
Originally Posted by mitchell_pgh
Metallica promoted the copying of their music back in the cassette days when it served them (getting their name out there)... but when it no longer was to their benefit... they were viciously against it.
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