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Apr 27, 2007, 03:57 PM
 
The following (I think hilarious) quote comes from the below linked article:

"I like lesbians, but they shouldn't be allowed to run for king," said senior Erich Logan, 18, as he stood outside the stately high school building.
Transgender student runs for prom king - Yahoo! News
This article is about a person born with two XX chromosomes and usually identified as a "woman" but feels more like, and identifies as, a man; and who is running as his/her high school prom king.

In any case, the above quote left me in stiches. How very typical for a boy to say such things. Ahh......
     
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Apr 27, 2007, 03:59 PM
 
I saw this a few weeks ago. All I can do is sit and wait for the interesting and thoughtful replies a subject like this will evoke from this forum.
     
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Apr 27, 2007, 04:00 PM
 
I like lesbians too.
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Apr 27, 2007, 04:06 PM
 
I like lipstick lesbians. I remember debating with a girl back in HS as to whether they exist IRL.

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Apr 27, 2007, 10:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by Dakarʒ View Post
I saw this a few weeks ago. All I can do is sit and wait for the interesting and thoughtful replies a subject like this will evoke from this forum.
I'm with you there!
     
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Apr 27, 2007, 10:45 PM
 
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I'm glad I'm a grown up.
100% agree with you on that one.
     
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Apr 27, 2007, 11:24 PM
 
This topic is kinda gay. (joke).
     
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Apr 28, 2007, 12:28 AM
 
Guess who's not getting laid on prom night.
     
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Apr 28, 2007, 01:34 AM
 
I first read this as "Transgendered High School Porn King" and was going wtf?
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Apr 28, 2007, 04:09 AM
 
Eight siblings? Busy parents.

And “prom royalty”? WTF?
     
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Apr 28, 2007, 05:55 PM
 
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Apr 28, 2007, 06:32 PM
 
Originally Posted by Oisín View Post
Eight siblings? Busy parents.

And “prom royalty”? WTF?
Prom king is HUGE in the U.S. For further information, see: YouTube - CH Makeover (1/3)

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Apr 28, 2007, 07:16 PM
 
I'm Lesbian trapped in a man's body.
I love women!
     
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Apr 28, 2007, 10:27 PM
 
Ever wonder why you never see transgendered males running for Prom Queen? Only a lesbian would put so much stock in such a trashy, low-brow affair. Back when I was in high school everything about the prom was so tacky I avoided it like the plague.
     
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Apr 28, 2007, 11:51 PM
 
Originally Posted by memory-minus View Post
Ever wonder why you never see transgendered males running for Prom Queen? Only a lesbian would put so much stock in such a trashy, low-brow affair. Back when I was in high school everything about the prom was so tacky I avoided it like the plague.
Seconded. I thought prom was a crock.
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Apr 29, 2007, 01:23 AM
 
Originally Posted by Rumor View Post
Seconded. I thought prom was a crock.
I went to Prom with some of my stoner buddies - guys and gals.
About 1/3 the way through, we left, got stoned again and went to a midnight Rocky Horror Cabaret - in our prom outfits.
Hell of a lot more fun.
     
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Apr 29, 2007, 02:14 AM
 
Ironically I just got back from seeing my sister, the high school is having their after-prom here on campus tonight. For five bucks they get bowling, pool, tons of food and drinks, a hypnotist, and over $2000 in raffle prizes. Not a bad deal.
     
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Apr 29, 2007, 03:51 AM
 
Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey View Post
Prom king is HUGE in the U.S. For further information, see: YouTube - CH Makeover (1/3)
Yeah, I know the whole Prom King and Prom Queen culture—I’d just never actually heard of it referred to as “Prom Royalty”. The word ‘royalty’ just gave it a sort of odd twist for me, ’cause it implies so much more than just ‘king’ and ‘queen’ separately.
     
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Apr 29, 2007, 07:03 AM
 
I thought they called "transsexual" people who are about to, or on the road to transitioning to the other sex. How does she really identify as a man? What's the difference between her condition and simply being a butch lesbian? I don't know why people have to adopt the trans label to cross-dress. That's a personal pref, not gender identity disorder.
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Originally Posted by CleoW View Post
I thought they called "transsexual" people who are about to, or on the road to transitioning to the other sex. How does she really identify as a man? What's the difference between her condition and simply being a butch lesbian? I don't know why people have to adopt the trans label to cross-dress. That's a personal pref, not gender identity disorder.
Nobody, in the thread nor the article, used the word "transexual" which, yes, describes a person who wishes to transition to the opposite gender. I'm also a little wary of your use of the word "disorder," again, not used in this thread nor the article. The word used was "transgendered" which is the all-encompassing term for not only transsexuals, but transvestites and other forms of gender expression. The article states she's not currently interested in altering her sex physically, so the most likely sub-category of transgenderism applicable to her is "genderqueer." This assumes she wants a label period.
     
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Originally Posted by memory-minus View Post
Nobody, in the thread nor the article, used the word "transexual" which, yes, describes a person who wishes to transition to the opposite gender. I'm also a little wary of your use of the word "disorder," again, not used in this thread nor the article.
Gender identity disorder is the psychiatric term for people who feel they were born in the wrong body. Gender identity disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaI'm sorry, I said the wrong word, I meant transgendered, but transsexuality is another, more specific word for transgendered.
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The word used was "transgendered" which is the all-encompassing term for not only transsexuals, but transvestites and other forms of gender expression.
That's not true. The transgendered, or people who have gender identity disorder, are actually contrasted with transvestites, who don't feel they are trapped in the wrong body, but merely cross-dress for sexual pleasure. If you search the DHealth Channel, they have several stories on the shows they have done on this, with more info.
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Apr 29, 2007, 02:49 PM
 
Originally Posted by CleoW View Post
Gender identity disorder is the psychiatric term for people who feel they were born in the wrong body. Gender identity disorder - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaI'm sorry, I said the wrong word, I meant transgendered, but transsexuality is another, more specific word for transgendered.
Please check your own source.
Originally Posted by Wikipedia
Gender identity disorder, as identified by psychologists and physicians, is a condition in which a person has been assigned one gender, usually on the basis of their sex at birth (compare intersex disorders), but identifies as belonging to another gender, and feels significant discomfort or being unable to deal with this condition. (emphasis added)
Nothing in the article states Cinthia is feeling discomfort or is unable to deal with her "condition."

Since you insist on quoting Wikipedia, which I personally hate given its reputation for dubious accuracy, please check the page for Transgender, which clearly states in the first sentence it is the general term. There is a reason GLBT stands for "Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual and Transgendered" and not "... Transsexual."

Even TFA states:
She considers herself transgender, an umbrella term that covers all people whose outward appearance and internal identity don't match their gender at birth.


Originally Posted by CleoW View Post
That's not true. The transgendered, or people who have gender identity disorder, are actually contrasted with transvestites, who don't feel they are trapped in the wrong body, but merely cross-dress for sexual pleasure. If you search the DHealth Channel, they have several stories on the shows they have done on this, with more info.
"Transgendered" and "gender identity disorder" are not one in the same, so please stop trying to link them. Not everyone who considers themselves transgendered has a disorder. Why don't you search the DHealth Channel yourself and post evidence to the contrary?
     
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Apr 29, 2007, 03:07 PM
 
Q: How does that (transgender) differ from transsexual, transvestite or gay?
A: In clinical terms, transsexual is a further extreme of transgender. A transsexual is someone who makes the choice to have either hormonal or surgical intervention to change their gender. So the term transgender is the broader term, which includes all of the interpersonal and societal ramifications, while transsexual relates specifically to the genitals. Transvestite is in a totally different category. Transvestites are people who don't actually live their lives as if they are a different gender or feel they are a different gender. When we think of transvestite, most of us are actually thinking of a fetishistic transvestite, which is most often a man dressing in women's clothing, usually for sexual pleasure. So a transvestite is usually a man who gets turned on by being in contact with women's clothing.

Discovery Health :: Understanding What "Transgender" Means
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