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The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2009, 01:53 PM

I just don't see the appeal of the movie outside of the technology, and given the subject matter, I am turned off.

Chuckit · Dec 11, 2009, 01:56 PM

An alien planet inhabited by blue people turns you off? You hate sci-fi or what?

starman · Dec 11, 2009, 01:58 PM

I've been reading nothing but spectacular reviews of this movie. We're just trying to pin down what time to see it on Friday.

Chuckit · Dec 11, 2009, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by Eug

The initial reviews are glowing.

Now I'm torn. 3D movies give me a headache, but some of the descriptions suggest this has to be seen in 3D instead of 2D. ie. It's not a 3D-ified 2D movie, but a movie that built for 3D (and not just for the sake of 3D), and much more so than most previous 3D movies.

Oh, and was it $300 million to make, or $200 million? The article says $200 mil now, but others still say $300 mil. $300 million seems stupidly high.

I believe $200M was the budget of The Dark Knight, and this movie looks a lot more extravagant, so I wouldn't be surprised if it had a higher budget,

exca1ibur · Dec 11, 2009, 01:59 PM

$300 million what what I've seen everywhere that I've looked around.

downinflames68 · Dec 11, 2009, 01:59 PM

The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2009, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by Chuckit

An alien planet inhabited by blue people turns you off? You hate sci-fi or what?

...

Originally Posted by ort888

Uh. Yeah. I don't know. The way those blue dudes look just throws the whole thing off. I got a very creepy kind of vibe from them. They look like generic internet furrie porn come to life... like they were drawn by a sexually frustrated fat woman from Idaho who wears lace up SCA boots to her office job and plays D&D with a bunch of 40 something neckbeard guys every Tuesday night. The modeling on them is so irritating on some sort of subconscious level that it really makes everything else not matter.

It kinda looks like Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within meets the Star Wars Prequels plus furries.

starman · Dec 11, 2009, 02:06 PM

Furries? No.

The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2009, 02:08 PM

If you're going to disagree, it would help if the picture included didn't bear similarities to dif68s posted pics.

starman · Dec 11, 2009, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

If you're going to disagree, it would help if the picture included didn't bear similarities to dif68s posted pics.

Other than the tail, I see ZERO similarities.

Blue skin != animal

The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2009, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by starman

Other than the tail, I see ZERO similarities.

You don't see the odd ears? Or the coincidence of them being blue? The tabby-like patterns on their skin? The nose definitely bears some feline qualities.

Originally Posted by starman

Blue skin != animal

Yeah, I don't know many animals with blue skin, either. Interestingly, its a common choice in the furries pics posted here.

Hey, I'm not saying these things are carbon copies, but the similarities are there, whether you like it or not. My memory of mainstream movies isn't amazing, but I can't recall any other aliens more reminiscent of furries than these.

ort888 · Dec 11, 2009, 02:27 PM

It's not so much furries as it is cheeseball erotic fantasy illustration. It's just more fun to say furries.

But really it looks like an expensive CGI version of something crappily drawn by someone who gets off on elf porn.

Rumor · Dec 11, 2009, 02:45 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

You don't see the odd ears? Or the coincidence of them being blue? The tabby-like patterns on their skin? The nose definitely bears some feline qualities.

Yeah, I don't know many animals with blue skin, either. Interestingly, its a common choice in the furries pics posted here.

Hey, I'm not saying these things are carbon copies, but the similarities are there, whether you like it or not. My memory of mainstream movies isn't amazing, but I can't recall any other aliens more reminiscent of furries than these.

Earth Girls Are Easy IIRC.

The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2009, 02:47 PM

Ooo, good call.

lpkmckenna · Dec 11, 2009, 02:53 PM

This movie looks cool. Those people complaining about CGI always complain about CGI. Those people complaining about furries have sexual issues.

starman · Dec 11, 2009, 02:53 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

You don't see the odd ears? Or the coincidence of them being blue? The tabby-like patterns on their skin? The nose definitely bears some feline qualities.

Yeah, I don't know many animals with blue skin, either. Interestingly, its a common choice in the furries pics posted here.

Hey, I'm not saying these things are carbon copies, but the similarities are there, whether you like it or not. My memory of mainstream movies isn't amazing, but I can't recall any other aliens more reminiscent of furries than these.

The ears look more elvish. Elves aren't furries.

The nose is flat, not outward. Again, not animal-like.

As for the similarities with the tone of their skin, only ONE above had blue fur. One is white, the other is tabby with a blue SHIRT on.

I think you're looking at these with furry-colored glasses. Maybe it's your subconscious telling you it's time to look for something new to wear? Maybe something....furry?

The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2009, 03:10 PM

Originally Posted by starman

The ears look more elvish. Elves aren't furries.

I thought elf ears looked more like Vulcan's, and those ears don't look Vulcan...

Originally Posted by starman

The nose is flat, not outward. Again, not animal-like.

It's oddly rectangular, like a tiger's.

Originally Posted by starman

As for the similarities with the tone of their skin, only ONE above had blue fur. One is white, the other is tabby with a blue SHIRT on.

...and the tabby like pattern on their skin?

Originally Posted by starman

I think you're looking at these with furry-colored glasses. Maybe it's your subconscious telling you it's time to look for something new to wear? Maybe something....furry?

You're so precious when you try to be insulting. I'm not the only one seeing the similarities here.

downinflames68 · Dec 11, 2009, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by ort888

It's not so much furries as it is cheeseball erotic fantasy illustration. It's just more fun to say furries.

But really it looks like an expensive CGI version of something crappily drawn by someone who gets off on elf porn.

Agree 100%

starman · Dec 11, 2009, 03:22 PM

I find it funny that people think they're "furries" when in fact they don't have FUR on them at all.

But keep grasping at straws. Eventually you'll get it right.

The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2009, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by starman

I find it funny that people think they're "furries" when in fact they don't have FUR on them at all.

But keep grasping at straws. Eventually you'll get it right.

Originally Posted by ort888

It's not so much furries as it is cheeseball erotic fantasy illustration. It's just more fun to say furries.

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Hey, I'm not saying these things are carbon copies, but the similarities are there, whether you like it or not. My memory of mainstream movies isn't amazing, but I can't recall any other aliens more reminiscent of furries than these.

Is this where I'm supposed to say something condescending about your reading skills?

starman · Dec 11, 2009, 03:40 PM

If you're going to disagree, it would help if the picture included didn't bear similarities to dif68s posted pics.

Hey, I'm not saying these things are carbon copies, but the similarities are there, whether you like it or not. My memory of mainstream movies isn't amazing, but I can't recall any other aliens more reminiscent of furries than these.

Is this where I'm supposed to say something condescending about your reading skills?

Go right ahead. I'll just point out the fact that you seem to believe that a picture of a CGI alien with no fur, claws, animal ears (whatever), animal teeth, or (IMO) noses bears any kind of "similarity" to some crappy art which just happened to be blue and have a pattern on their skin.

And then I'll point out that it's just a movie and you're making more of it than it is for no other reason that you feel the need to make fun of something for your own satisfaction.

The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2009, 03:45 PM

Originally Posted by starman

And then I'll point out that it's just a movie and you're making more of it than it is for no other reason that you feel the need to make fun of something for your own satisfaction.

Or I'm just not willing to lie to myself about my initial perceptions just because you don't happen to like them. The only reason it seems like I'm making "more of it" is because you feel compelled to defend the movie from my opinion, and I'm obviously going to defend my opinion.

SpaceMonkey · Dec 11, 2009, 03:48 PM

If I declare this a catfight (*meeeoooow*) does that mean you are both furries?

The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2009, 03:50 PM

My tail is restless at the thought.

olePigeon · Dec 11, 2009, 03:59 PM

Originally Posted by starman

I find it funny that people think they're "furries" when in fact they don't have FUR on them at all.

A furry is the anthropomorphic representation of an animal. Not all animals have fur. This is a furry movie, and I'll watch with RiffTrax.

Shaddim · Dec 11, 2009, 04:06 PM

I'm predicting the biggest film flop of all time, it'll make Waterworld look successful. I'll go see it just to enjoy the technical aspects of the SFX, but I'm not expecting much of a story.

I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

Shaddim · Dec 11, 2009, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

A furry is the anthropomorphic representation of an animal. Not all animals have fur.

I used the same logic before (and I pointed out the tail), but it seems he'll have none of it. Even my wife made a comment about it, and I hadn't even talked with her about the film. "We going to go see that new Furry movie?"

olePigeon · Dec 11, 2009, 04:13 PM

I saw the trailer and I can already tell you what the entire movie is about:

Paralyzed military guy does that Avatar thing. Goes to the planet for reconnaissance, but falls in love with female. Decides he doesn't want to go back to his old life. Finds out that the Humans plan to destroy the existing inhabitants in some immoral war over resources. Sides with the furries. Fights the humans.

The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2009, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Shaddim

I'm predicting the biggest film flop of all time, it'll make Waterworld look successful. I'll go see it just to enjoy the technical aspects of the SFX, but I'm not expecting much of a story.

I could be wrong, but I doubt it.

I'm with you in theory, but I thought Titantic was an idiotic premise and that thing rolled the box office.

So what I'm saying is, if anyone might pull this off it's Cameron (But relying on 3D as a point of sale isn't helping).

starman · Dec 11, 2009, 04:18 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

I'm with you in theory, but I thought Titantic was an idiotic premise and that thing rolled the box office.

So what I'm saying is, if anyone might pull this off it's Cameron (But relying on 3D as a point of sale isn't helping).

Um, I really think you need to read the reviews. The 3D isn't gimmicky.

The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2009, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by starman

Um, I really think you need to read the reviews. The 3D isn't gimmicky.

I'm calling it gimmicky in the sense that 3D is not available everywhere, and when this comes on TNT in 3 years, it will be non-existent.

I'd be curious what percentage of people catch this in 3D.

starman · Dec 11, 2009, 04:25 PM

There's one theater in my area playing it in a 20 mile radius in 2D.

Tons others in 3D.

Do the math.

The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2009, 04:27 PM

Originally Posted by starman

There's one theater in my area playing it in a 20 mile radius in 2D.

Tons others in 3D.

Do the math.

Are you capable of not being a prick during these discussions?

You're near NYC, correct? Wonder how it works for people in more rural areas.

lpkmckenna · Dec 11, 2009, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Hey, I'm not saying these things are carbon copies, but the similarities are there, whether you like it or not. My memory of mainstream movies isn't amazing, but I can't recall any other aliens more reminiscent of furries than these.

The Final Dakar · Dec 11, 2009, 04:33 PM

Doesn't he pre-date furries? My knowledge of furries is limited to the fact that some people like to dress up as them and they're really creepy.

olePigeon · Dec 11, 2009, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by starman

There's one theater in my area playing it in a 20 mile radius in 2D.

Tons others in 3D.

Do the math.

Reminds me of a Viking Pride bumper sticker:

"My god has a hammer. Your god was nailed to a tree. Do the math."

lpkmckenna · Dec 11, 2009, 04:35 PM

Originally Posted by starman

Um, I really think you need to read the reviews. The 3D isn't gimmicky.

I've only seen a few 3D flicks: it turned Superman Returns into a blurry mess and G-Force sorta worked. I'll see it in 2D first.

MacinTommy · Dec 11, 2009, 04:49 PM

Does anyone else think this movie looks Halo-ish?

downinflames68 · Dec 11, 2009, 05:08 PM

YouTube - Two bears race a Ferrari and an Audi R8. Justin Bobby, Julia Allison, hot cars, hot girls.

reader50 · Dec 11, 2009, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by MacinTommy

Does anyone else think this movie looks Halo-ish?

We won't know for another week.

MacinTommy · Dec 11, 2009, 06:02 PM

Originally Posted by reader50

We won't know for another week.

I'm saying just from watching the previews.

ort888 · Dec 11, 2009, 06:09 PM

Well, all of the vehicles in Halo were ripped off from Aliens... so I guess we're now coming full circle.

lpkmckenna · Dec 11, 2009, 07:35 PM

There were helicopters in Halo?

ort888 · Dec 11, 2009, 08:15 PM

Railroader · Dec 11, 2009, 11:40 PM

It's thread like these that make me wish there weren't thread like these.

moonmonkey · Dec 12, 2009, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by starman

It seems to be more than that. Putting the mind of a disabled marine into the body of an alien, of a species we're apparently at war with.

True story then?

Stogieman · Dec 13, 2009, 02:27 PM

Originally Posted by ort888

Well, all of the vehicles in Halo were ripped off from Aliens... so I guess we're now coming full circle.

When you say all vehicles, you mean just the Pelican & Star Ships right? I don't recall seeing any vehicles in Aliens looking a Mongoose, Warthog, Banshee, Ghost, Brute Chopper or Scorpion Tank.

ort888 · Dec 13, 2009, 02:35 PM

You know what I mean. The human vehicles in Halo look very close to the stuff in Aliens. No, it's not a perfect match, but the similarities are there. And they are very similar.

The look of Aliens was very influential.

The Final Dakar · Dec 15, 2009, 02:12 PM

I'm beginning to understand Hollywood's push for 3D. You can't cam it in the theater (though who does that, really), and you can't do it at home (yet). And you can charge more for it.

andi*pandi · Dec 15, 2009, 02:54 PM

Originally Posted by Mac007

No, I'd say it's more like Dances with Wolves in space.

You mean a space western?

Nah, that'd never work.