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Feb 14, 2006, 02:39 AM
 
This is the 3rd I have heard about in a month. When the MPAA isn't suing people with no computers the RAA is going around suing 8 year olds for one Britney song.

http://www.nydailynews.com/front/sto...p-331150c.html

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Feb 14, 2006, 03:33 AM
 
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Feb 14, 2006, 05:24 AM
 
Yeah, this is out of control. I think they need to fight the crime in California first.
     
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Feb 14, 2006, 05:57 AM
 
"We don't have evidence that they downloaded the films, but we do know they have these films on their computers," she said.
wtf ? Do they hack people's computers ? Hello, class action.

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Feb 14, 2006, 02:16 PM
 
Just price the stuff right and people won't steal it!!
     
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Feb 14, 2006, 02:24 PM
 
Originally Posted by TailsToo
Just price the stuff right and people won't steal it!!
You mean LESS people will steal it.

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Feb 14, 2006, 03:30 PM
 
Originally Posted by I Bent My Wookiee
How many Grandmas can the MPAA sue?
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Feb 14, 2006, 03:39 PM
 
I kind of feel sorry for these guys b/c they are legitimate companies and they need to turn profits for their hard work (yes, making a good movie that sells is hard work for most of the people involved in the production effort). Nevertheless, I don't see the business model lasting much longer.
     
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Feb 14, 2006, 11:09 PM
 
Ya think? The business model was broken years ago! When will they wake up and stop beating a dead horse?
     
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Feb 14, 2006, 11:31 PM
 
I read a great article about how latin america is not buying any movies these days, well, none legally. Its great to hear the MPAA complain about people who make $20 a month not shelling out most of it for a legal movie, when they can buy a bootleg for under $1.

http://www.philly.com/mld/philly/business/13848901.htm

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Feb 15, 2006, 12:56 AM
 
If they do nothing, they lose,
if they do what they want, they lose.

I'd say the RIAA is doing worse.

The business model has seen it's final days. Either they change, or they reap the consequences. How sad for them... no really.

Okay, not really.
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Feb 15, 2006, 01:03 AM
 
Spokeswoman Michelle Greeno said MPAA investigators subpoena the suspected pirates' Internet service providers to make their case.

"We don't have evidence that they downloaded the films, but we do know they have these films on their computers," she said.
How does that make sense?

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Feb 15, 2006, 01:07 AM
 
Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey
How does that make sense?
Perhaps they mean someone gave her a CD with the file on it?

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Feb 15, 2006, 01:08 AM
 
Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker
Perhaps they mean someone gave her a CD with the file on it?
But how would her ISP have evidence of that?

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Feb 15, 2006, 01:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by SpaceMonkey
But how would her ISP have evidence of that?
Who knows. Perhaps she had it on her computer, fired up a sharing program and it was in the shared folder.

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Feb 15, 2006, 08:52 AM
 
All the movie swapping is run by Grandmas! It's a front! The perfect cover!

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Feb 16, 2006, 04:12 PM
 
Well using a grandma as a front is wrong.

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Feb 16, 2006, 06:45 PM
 
Grandma's not being used as a front. she's frontin'
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Feb 16, 2006, 07:04 PM
 
Anyone see that Monty Python sketch with the Old Lady gang? Yeah, that's what's going on. Those old bats are charging "protection money" from the local kids to run their music and movie pirating business.
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Feb 16, 2006, 11:07 PM
 
Grandma's computer is probably like a lot of other home PCs running Windows... Zombie-ized and serving up illegal shared files left and right. So, sure, it may very well be on Grandma's computer. But she doesn't know it.
     
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Feb 17, 2006, 12:46 AM
 
So the new question is, do we charge Grandma?
Should Grandma be implicated when jr left a pipe in a drawer while he stayed for the weeked?
Should Grandma be a suspect and/or accomplice to a crime she was completely unrelated to?
If Grandma's at the scene of the crime, does that make her a suspect?
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Feb 17, 2006, 03:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by Cadaver
Grandma's computer is probably like a lot of other home PCs running Windows... Zombie-ized and serving up illegal shared files left and right. So, sure, it may very well be on Grandma's computer. But she doesn't know it.
Exactly.

This is the problem with the MPAA et. al. suing everyone. Sure, the person might have had the file on their hard drive, but if I throw a pound of pot on someone's lawn, should that person go to prison? No - there has to be CONCLUSIVE PROOF that the person actually went out and downloaded the file. If they can't prove it, then they should not be allowed to sue. Also, how did they know the file was there? One last point - what if I was working on a homemade video and named it StarWars.VOB? Does that give the MPAA the right to come after me on the fact of the filename itself?

This whole thing needs to stop NOW. The MPAA/RIAA are getting rich off of people that may actually be innocent.

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Feb 18, 2006, 02:30 AM
 
Now they are after the KIDS of the old ladies they tried to sue...
http://p2pnet.net/story/7942

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Feb 18, 2006, 06:47 AM
 
Originally Posted by Kerrigan
I kind of feel sorry for these guys b/c they are legitimate companies and they need to turn profits for their hard work (yes, making a good movie that sells is hard work for most of the people involved in the production effort). Nevertheless, I don't see the business model lasting much longer.

The CD hasn't dropped in price during the DECADES that it has existed. Despite increase in supply, improved production technologies, drastically decline in the product's novelty, and a [I]huge reduction in demand[/I.] This doesn't happen without intervention. Intervention in this case is illegal. I don't consider these legitimate companies, and neither do the people who steal from them.

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May 25, 2006, 09:54 AM
 
"Q: Do your view your lawsuits, even ones where you sued a 12-year-old girl or a Boston grandmother, as a success overall and do you think the process is working?

Sherman: Yes. We're feeling pretty good. "

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May 26, 2006, 09:00 AM
 
Good for them! Someone's assaulting their game and they have to fight for their rights. Should an 8 year old girl be allowed to steal someones lunch money? No. So why should we feel sorry for her when she steals a movie. If a grandmother has 8lbs of crack in her fridge she should be the prime investigated. Goddddd
     
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May 26, 2006, 09:03 AM
 
I'd like to know why they go after kids when, last weekend in Little Italy I saw 6 or 7 people openly walking Mulberry Street selling The Davinci Code and other films.

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May 26, 2006, 09:04 AM
 
Originally Posted by kaze0
Good for them! Someone's assaulting their game and they have to fight for their rights. Should an 8 year old girl be allowed to steal someones lunch money? No. So why should we feel sorry for her when she steals a movie. If a grandmother has 8lbs of crack in her fridge she should be the prime investigated. Goddddd
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May 26, 2006, 09:06 AM
 
Gotta be careful they don't sue someone who will fight back.
     
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May 26, 2006, 10:27 AM
 
Originally Posted by starman
I'd like to know why they go after kids when, last weekend in Little Italy I saw 6 or 7 people openly walking Mulberry Street selling The Davinci Code and other films.
Kid's downloading is easier to scare them away from. Go after a street level vendor and their associates move but keep selling. The distribution wont stop or slow down. Fewer people relate to the street level vendors, hearing about them being caught wont scare the masses.
     
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Jun 15, 2006, 01:17 AM
 
Now you can't record yourself dancing to music you haven't bought:

http://techdirt.com/articles/20060614/1837225.shtml

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Jun 15, 2006, 02:53 AM
 
Originally Posted by Severed Hand of Skywalker
Now you can't record yourself dancing to music you haven't bought:

http://techdirt.com/articles/20060614/1837225.shtml
Can't say I mind that that much...

Though I personally put several portions of Christian rock songs into many videos I made for my former church... hmm... would that result in me getting sued for making them? Or them getting sued for showing them? If them... Oooo RIAA!...
     
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Originally Posted by Salty
Can't say I mind that that much...

Though I personally put several portions of Christian rock songs into many videos I made for my former church... hmm... would that result in me getting sued for making them? Or them getting sued for showing them? If them... Oooo RIAA!...

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Jun 15, 2006, 06:06 AM
 
Nah most of them were from at least partly indie labels. I don't even know if there's any copies of them around. And besides I think Canada's fair use laws would protect me.
     
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Originally Posted by Salty
Nah most of them were from at least partly indie labels. I don't even know if there's any copies of them around. And besides I think Canada's fair use laws would protect me.
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Originally Posted by wdlove
Well using a grandma as a front is wrong.
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