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Aug 30, 2004, 03:04 PM
 
VMAs just started (in Germany) and I have to say that this is the worst picture quality I have ever seen on TV!!!
What have they done? It looks like some bad internet stream with compression artefacts everywhere! (and NO, it's not my TV )
Has it been the same in the US or is this german MTV or the NTSC-PAL conversion?

Is this now the future? TV stations start to broadcast digitally but in worse quality than analog TV?

I am pissed!
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Aug 30, 2004, 03:08 PM
 
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=223206

It's not limited to MTV, but it's worst on MTV. But if you look closely you will notice that more and more TV programmes are broadcast with compression artifacts. I hate it.
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Aug 30, 2004, 03:13 PM
 
Must have missed that thread but I also just notized it for the first time on MTV (well I have seen it with videos before but not standard moderation)...

And I just remembered that the worst of all is EuroNews!
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Aug 30, 2004, 03:22 PM
 
Just switched into that award show and you are right, that's an extremely blurry picture. Must be due to NTSC�PAL conversion in addition to their usual compress like mad habit.

Who's that blonde girl? She's kind of hot.
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Aug 30, 2004, 03:41 PM
 
I think it's ironic that MTV has a "Video Music Award" show; however, they don't play music videos anymore unless you watch it at 5 AM...I miss the o'skoo days where it was ALL videos...
     
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Aug 30, 2004, 03:44 PM
 
manofsteal - watch FUSE if you can. They actually play music videos. They even have a current replacement for Headbanger's Ball called Uranium. very cool.
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Aug 30, 2004, 03:55 PM
 
I see a lot of music videos on MTV. But they're all that rap and hip-hop ****. The only way to get real music videos is to watch headbangers ball or beavis & butthead
     
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Aug 30, 2004, 03:59 PM
 
mtv needs to die, that's all i've got to say.

i'm sick and tired of the whole r&b, (lame) hip hop, formation dancing, diva crap.

and all of these shitty shows "mr. model makeover make me into a transsexual cheerleading plumber"...

WTF!!!

meh.
     
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Aug 30, 2004, 04:47 PM
 
MTV blows so bad. I used to like it back in the day, when videos were still new and the channel had just started. Nowadays it is pure crap.

MTV is peddling porn for a bunch of teenagers with zits. It's all about the booty, drugs, shaking some fat asses in your faces, and stupid, unoriginal and mostly uninspiring videos. Hip Hop & R&B garbage has totally taken over the channel, and that's about all they play, when they do play an actual video, which is not too often.

If I wanna see some real booties, I'll just download some prOn from the net, and it won't come with a crap R&B soundtrack to go along with it.

People who actually like MTV must fall into one of these two categories:

(1) Wannabe pimps & gangstas
(2) Wannabe whores & bitches
     
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Aug 30, 2004, 05:11 PM
 
Originally posted by memento:
manofsteal - watch FUSE if you can. They actually play music videos. They even have a current replacement for Headbanger's Ball called Uranium. very cool.
fuse is cool in that it plays videos

it is not cool in that it gets in the way by adding stupid graphics and animations every chance it gets

also, most of their music video shows are gimics. such as they show 4 videos at 1 time or some stupid shyt like that
     
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Aug 30, 2004, 06:48 PM
 
Originally posted by Developer:
http://forums.macnn.com/showthread.p...hreadid=223206

It's not limited to MTV, but it's worst on MTV. But if you look closely you will notice that more and more TV programmes are broadcast with compression artifacts. I hate it.
It's not the NTSC-PAL conversion it's the fact that MTV must be cheap and haven't paid for lots of bandwidth for the live stream's transatlantic jump. So instead of paying to send a low compression feed, MTV (and lots of other companies) decide to compress it like mad so it resembles a 'high quality' QT file. it really is disgraceful.

If you where also watching on Digital Satellite it's compounded by instead of using the extra space that Digital offers on the Satellite for higher quality pictures and sound the Astra people decided to use it to crush in more and more (crap) channels
     
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Aug 30, 2004, 07:10 PM
 
And an even bigger joke, here in the uk we cant have the word **** or **** or ass, it gets 'skipped' out.

What is the point of a gangster rap (with a c) theme with no swear words.

FFS its 9pm here when it started?

Is it the same for you guys (the swearing i mean)

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Aug 30, 2004, 07:20 PM
 
Originally posted by milkmanchris:
And an even bigger joke, here in the uk we cant have the word **** or **** or ass, it gets 'skipped' out.

What is the point of a gangster rap (with a c) theme with no swear words.

FFS its 9pm here when it started?

Is it the same for you guys (the swearing i mean)

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I've actually done a few edits for MTV videos, and yes, the list of things that must get bleeped out/silenced is not small. Some people do reverse edits, but I wouldn't recommend that with the "N" word, as it is still recognizable in both directions.

And what's up with blocking out any logo on t-shirts ?

     
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Aug 30, 2004, 07:35 PM
 
And we are so sensitive here in the Uk that the finger is blocked out.

However a fave son Ozzy can do and say what he wants ?

MTV double standards me tinks.


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Aug 30, 2004, 07:52 PM
 
Originally posted by milkmanchris:
And we are so sensitive here in the Uk that the finger is blocked out.

However a fave son Ozzy can do and say what he wants ?

MTV double standards me tinks.
I doubt that was an MTV UK decision.

The really silly censorship bull is always the US mothership (at least, it was back when I worked at VH-1).
     
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Aug 30, 2004, 10:03 PM
 
MTV needs to go away... they totally lost what people used to like about them.
     
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Aug 31, 2004, 11:57 AM
 
I have never watched MTV.

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