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Sep 17, 2006, 03:21 PM
 
I don;t understand them, I really don't. No matter what I do, they just confound me and befuddle me beyond words. Women... a mystery only known to the gods.
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Sep 17, 2006, 03:27 PM
 
its ok. we feel the same about men.
     
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Sep 17, 2006, 03:29 PM
 
If there was no mystery they'd all just be your sister. I suppose.
     
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Sep 17, 2006, 03:37 PM
 
Guess I'm just going through a weird time. I meet the girl of my heavenly dreams and I'm left lost, as usual... it's probably just me and my unresolved mind. Oh well, had to let the MacNN-mind know that for some reason lol.
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Sep 17, 2006, 03:40 PM
 
Originally Posted by natnabour
its ok. we feel the same about men.
Well, I'm a woman, and I don't feel the same way about men. They are ridiculously simple, IMO.

Females, on the other hand, are usually unstable, esp. when they are young.
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Sep 17, 2006, 03:46 PM
 
Originally Posted by CleoW
Well, I'm a woman, and I don't feel the same way about men. They are ridiculously simple, IMO.

Females, on the other hand, are usually unstable, esp. when they are young.
Maybe that's it; I'm 35 and my g/f is 21, but we share so much common ground yet I don't feel stable, Just pains me that at my age I'm not settled...
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Sep 17, 2006, 03:48 PM
 

haha! yet there's so many variables inbetween those dials, and that's what confuses me...
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Sep 17, 2006, 04:13 PM
 
Originally Posted by version
haha! yet there's so many variables inbetween those dials, and that's what confuses me...
It's just that every setting on those dials affects the settings on all the other dials.

My advice: Just try not to turn any knobs.. or tweak the buttons.. or.. something like that.
     
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Sep 17, 2006, 04:16 PM
 
Originally Posted by ink
It's just that every setting on those dials affects the settings on all the other dials.

My advice: Just try not to turn any knobs.. or tweak the buttons.. or.. something like that.

You know, that's a great insight, and probably very true and something i always seem to do! I'm too tired of the mechanics of how things ok, but i keep doing it, and I only leave myself confused.
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Sep 17, 2006, 04:27 PM
 
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Sep 17, 2006, 04:28 PM
 
Originally Posted by CleoW
Well, I'm a woman, and I don't feel the same way about men. They are ridiculously simple, IMO.

Females, on the other hand, are usually unstable, esp. when they are young.
I think the reason many women find men confusing is because they try to read too much in. They're looking for "instability" (as you put it) that isn't there. I once had a woman try to complain to me about how her boyfriend was spending more time with his brother than with her, and she didn't get what was going on. I was like, "It's football season and he likes watching football with his brother. What's there to get?"
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Sep 17, 2006, 04:29 PM
 
Originally Posted by version
Maybe that's it; I'm 35 and my g/f is 21, but we share so much common ground yet I don't feel stable, Just pains me that at my age I'm not settled...
Hmm... I'm not so sure it's the opposite sex that's confusing you. I'm guessing the age difference probably is a factor too.
     
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Sep 17, 2006, 04:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by hayesk
Hmm... I'm not so sure it's the opposite sex that's confusing you. I'm guessing the age difference probably is a factor too.

See, that's the thing, I'm not sure it is the age thing. I've been with women much older tha`n me, and younger, and so on, but this girl just seems to click with me in so many ways, to the point I'm mesmerised by her, and me with her. For someone her age, she's extremely intelligent, smart and aware to the point that I've never come across anyone like her. See, I think my problem is insecurity. Every day she tells me she loves me, can't live without me, etc. and likewise, but I let doubt, fear and so on creep into my mind. Maybe it's because in my mind she is young and I fear her leaving me, but it';s actually me that carries those fears.

Chuckit made some good points there and I'm gonna reply to those tomorrow, but I need some sleep now lol,
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Sep 17, 2006, 04:46 PM
 
Hayesk - thank you for the comments. I guess ultimately I'm scared of hurt, again, and I've gone through too much hurt and just want an easy life in terms of being with someone.

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Sep 17, 2006, 05:07 PM
 
Well, that's magic for ya …�
I think it's to keep us interested, once you think you've got them figured out, they learn to surprise us guys again.
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Sep 17, 2006, 05:09 PM
 
Originally Posted by version
Hayesk - thank you for the comments. I guess ultimately I'm scared of hurt, again, and I've gone through too much hurt and just want an easy life in terms of being with someone.
Ain't gonna happen. Those who are most afraid usually suffer the most. Loving and being loved always involves the risks of being hurt and hurting somebody else. Accept it as a fact of life.

There is no easy life, just life. Try to find out what you want and find ways to achieve it.
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Sep 17, 2006, 05:25 PM
 
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Sep 17, 2006, 11:30 PM
 
Originally Posted by version
I don;t understand them, I really don't. No matter what I do, they just confound me and befuddle me beyond words. Women... a mystery only known to the gods.
I find if you make them breakfast it normally helps.
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Sep 18, 2006, 12:19 AM
 
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Sep 18, 2006, 01:06 AM
 
Originally Posted by version
See, that's the thing, I'm not sure it is the age thing. I've been with women much older tha`n me, and younger, and so on, but this girl just seems to click with me in so many ways, to the point I'm mesmerised by her, and me with her. For someone her age, she's extremely intelligent, smart and aware to the point that I've never come across anyone like her. See, I think my problem is insecurity. Every day she tells me she loves me, can't live without me, etc. and likewise, but I let doubt, fear and so on creep into my mind. Maybe it's because in my mind she is young and I fear her leaving me, but it';s actually me that carries those fears.
Ah, so it's you. I don't like to talk about my personal life in this kind of forum, but I'll make an exception for you.

I am a 20 year old female who is in a relationship with a 52 year old man. We've known each other for two and a half years, but he's just now coming around to trust me; so, just now are we are really starting to enjoy a full, meaningful relationship. You see, like you, he kept entertaining ideas in his head. He kept thinking that I had ulterior motives for being with him, and that I was soon going to dump him for a younger man, etc.

These issues that he dealt with really kept us apart emotionally. We would go through the motions, but the soul bond was missing. I had to keep on top of him. He kept trying to test me.

My point is, don't let your doubt ruin your relationship. By not fully trusting her, you are keeping yourself distant from her in a way that really counts in a romantic relationship. You are making yourself miserable and if you feel strongly enough, she will sense it as well. Just think about it.
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Sep 18, 2006, 01:10 AM
 
Originally Posted by Chuckit
I think the reason many women find men confusing is because they try to read too much in. They're looking for "instability" (as you put it) that isn't there. I once had a woman try to complain to me about how her boyfriend was spending more time with his brother than with her, and she didn't get what was going on. I was like, "It's football season and he likes watching football with his brother. What's there to get?"
Dead-on observation.
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Sep 18, 2006, 01:27 AM
 
I enjoy being a man.

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Sep 18, 2006, 01:40 AM
 
Great image bluesky.
I have been going out with my girlfriend for almost 5 years and I still don't think I will ever understand women. Maybe learn to predict them, but understand them? no way
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Sep 18, 2006, 09:12 AM
 
The hardest part is understanding how many ways "NO" can be phrased. Or that they don't want solutions to their problems, just "Understanding".

organically, women can't load a dishwasher, or do any mechanical things. All women have piles of clutter that they hide someplace. They will yell at you about a single sock next to the hamper while they have closets full on clothes they haven't worn in 3 years all in disarray.
     
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Sep 18, 2006, 09:45 AM
 
Originally Posted by CleoW
I am a 20 year old female who is in a relationship with a 52 year old man.
I'm sure your friends and family are thrilled.
     
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Sep 18, 2006, 10:27 AM
 
Originally Posted by Kerrigan
I'm sure your friends and family are thrilled.
I am an adult.
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Sep 18, 2006, 12:40 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kevin
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Sep 18, 2006, 02:01 PM
 
Originally Posted by Y3a
The hardest part is understanding how many ways "NO" can be phrased. Or that they don't want solutions to their problems, just "Understanding".

organically, women can't load a dishwasher, or do any mechanical things. All women have piles of clutter that they hide someplace. They will yell at you about a single sock next to the hamper while they have closets full on clothes they haven't worn in 3 years all in disarray.
Oh, please! Must we hear these tired cliches every time? In my house it's exactly the opposite. It's easy to state blanket generalizations but as I repeatedly tell my 8 year old, saying it, no matter how authoritatively, does not make it so.
     
   
 
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