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nonhuman
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Jul 20, 2002, 12:15 AM
 
<img src="http://homepage.mac.com/nonhuman/.Pictures/Unicode.jpg" alt=" - " />
     
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Jul 20, 2002, 02:00 AM
 
Agreed! it's so nice to have the ability to have filenames in Japanese (not to mention it's neccessity to do so within iTunes)
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Jul 20, 2002, 02:13 AM
 
windows doesn't have unicode?

and yes, it is very cool, though useless to me...
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Jul 20, 2002, 02:22 AM
 
Windows NT, 2000, and XP has Unicode. 98 and ME had a Unicode extention of some kind I *THINK*. I know 98 and ME had multibyte, but I'm not 100% sure about Unicode on 9x.

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Jul 20, 2002, 02:31 AM
 
its about time is all i have to say..

not that im not happy that they incorporated unicode support, but it still needs a little more work. Right to left support has some issues when you try and write in hebrew/arabic and have english words in it for example.
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Jul 20, 2002, 04:23 AM
 
nonhuman, i seriously hope that list goes on with "ddt", you cut it off after the children's choir... gooood music!

now, if the terminal in jaguar is able to show us these paths... hmmm.

currently, the terminal is not even able to display my last name correctly... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="frown.gif" />
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by seb2:
<strong>now, if the terminal in jaguar is able to show us these paths... hmmm.

currently, the terminal is not even able to display my last name correctly... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">While that would be really nice, wouldn't it require altering either tcsh or readline or something?

Of course, this could be done, as evidenced by the fact that zsh is already closer to tcsh in this regard. Switch to zsh for the terminal, then mess around with the encodings and you will find that some of them let you enter �, �, etc. but that unfortunately they don't quite work right - if you cd to a folder that contains files with these special characters and ls, they'll still show up as question marks, and typing the name with the special characters won't actually get the files. But it's a start...

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Jul 20, 2002, 10:18 AM
 
I know I can't Read Japanese but it is nice to see the charecters instead of odd stuff when useing things or apps that have a bit of Japanese in them...

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Charles--
It's funny you mention this: Mil and I were just having a <a href="http://forums.macnn.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=46;t=007682" target="_blank">discussion</a> about that. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by seb2:
<strong>currently, the terminal is not even able to display my last name correctly... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">It should be in Jaguar - it can display � � � � � � so German characters should be in there too I think.
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Jul 20, 2002, 02:31 PM
 
Well I Came from Win98:SE and stuffed if I knew how to get it to work properly. I downloaded the Japanese IME, and reader, and the only things I could get Japanese to read and input in were IE, and Outlook Express - No programs, no filenames, no gui - ONLY IE and Outlook.
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by JLL:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by seb2:
<strong>currently, the terminal is not even able to display my last name correctly... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">It should be in Jaguar - it can display � � � � � � so German characters should be in there too I think.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">the questions are:

a) will it display them correctly (file names, etc.)?
b) can i enter them?
c) will it accept them for file names?

does anybody know?
     
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Jul 20, 2002, 03:11 PM
 
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by seb2:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by JLL:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by seb2:
<strong>currently, the terminal is not even able to display my last name correctly... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">It should be in Jaguar - it can display � � � � � � so German characters should be in there too I think.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">the questions are:

a) will it display them correctly (file names, etc.)?
b) can i enter them?
c) will it accept them for file names?

does anybody know?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">It works with the Danish characters.
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Jul 21, 2002, 10:57 AM
 
Too bad some applications don't fully support unicode.
For example, my name viewed in explorer looks weird but like it should be when in Omniweb.

��r�ur J�nas Sigur�sson
     
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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">Originally posted by Nathan Adams:
<strong>Well I Came from Win98:SE and stuffed if I knew how to get it to work properly. I downloaded the Japanese IME, and reader, and the only things I could get Japanese to read and input in were IE, and Outlook Express - No programs, no filenames, no gui - ONLY IE and Outlook.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="1" face="Geneva, Verdana, Arial, sans-serif">I take it you mean the Japanese IME that came with Internet Explorer? It only works with apps that use HTML (Internet Explorer, Outlook, Outlook Express etc). The best workaround I could find was to use a blank email in Outlook to compose Japanese text and then paste it into Word (or whatever). You may find that you have to manually change the font to something like MS Gothic or MS Mincho after pasting before it'll show up correctly but it does work. Windows 2000 and above (not sure about WinME) will allow Japanese input in any app, and lets you use Japanese characters in filenames.
     
   
 
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