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EBOLA, Open Borders, and Undocumented ILLEGALS (Page 4)
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Originally Posted by BadKosh 
liberal politicians with their upside down morals
Posts including things like this don't help you much in the laughing stock stakes.
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I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
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So they are going to let that non-symptomatic nurse go home.
Despite the science saying she wasn't dangerous, I think I'd be ok with quarantine measures such as hers if they also weren't such jerks about it. It's telling that a TSA rep with no medical experience wielding an inaccurate forehead thermometer trumps the medical experience of the nurse who's just spent months diagnosing and treating ebola.
Ebola and Quarantine: Editorial
"We should be honoring, not quarantining, health care workers who put their lives at risk not only to save people suffering from Ebola virus disease in West Africa but also to help achieve source control, bringing the world closer to stopping the spread of this killer epidemic."
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I have no problem putting her under mandatory home quarantine for 21 days, but putting her in an unheated tent with paper clothes and no shower is just ridiculous, with the current state of the 'outbreak'.
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Originally Posted by BadKosh
Are you sure you aren't scared?
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MORE of your stereotypes? You sure are a bad judge of others. Cautious, yes. Afraid no. Not until the virus becomes airborne.
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I see her point, but kind of think it's pushing it at this point.
Also, Christie is an ass. "Sue me, I've been sued before."
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I think there's a reasonable middle-ground and I think she's blind to it because Christie's knee-jerk completely enraged her.
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NAd she may lose in court, because the governors do have the power.
Shes a Political hack for the CDC, but her linkdn account and her facebook pages were scrubbed this weekend.
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Originally Posted by BadKosh
...and standard products that kill rotavirus, norovirus, and other "non-enveloped" viruses kills ebola dead. So does chlorine bleach.... It's harder to disinfect than influenza, but it's not a super bug. Gimme some bleach and a pair of gloves, and I'll show you how to deal with sneezed droplets; it's actually part of what I do in my profession.
And note that the article you cite talks about "certain strains surviving" for extended periods when stored at low temperatures. So until it gets really cold outside, just paying attention to the stuff we are ssupposed to pay attention to during cold and flu season is going to work: cover your mouth and nose when coughing or sneezing, wash hands thoroughly and frequently (not just hand sanitizer - it works best at drying out your hands), and not touching your eyes, nose or mouth after touching anything.
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So Obama is ordering the military sent to build the isolation centers to be quarantined for 21 days while later saying Health workers don't need the mandatory quarantine out of respect..... So is Obama just disrespecting the military again or is he just being an idiot again?
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BadKosh: I enjoy my daily chapters of "what Obama did wrong today" that you write. What will come tomorrow?
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Originally Posted by BadKosh
Still no life, eh?
Have you noticed that nobody responds to your rants but me? Are you expecting responses, or is this therapy?
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Originally Posted by BadKosh
So is Obama just disrespecting the military again or is he just being an idiot again?
If I know my fox news, it's both.
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Media having a field day because the nurse is still under voluntary quarantine and decided to go for a bike ride. Police followed her. This is reality.
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Comment I read on Globe article: "Great, now is that cop going to be under quarantine? The reporter who took her picture?"
Despite the facts that a) she's not symptomatic, b) the cop was following them by 200 yards.
You might think the police were making sure she didn't stop by starbucks and hug random people, but then more comments on the article were hoping "some tractor trailer driver swerves and hits her." So maybe they were there for her own protection too.
Humanity.
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi
So maybe they were there for her own protection too.
I didn't realize that until after I posted, but yes, the police are serving a dual function in that regard.
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Gov. LePage needs little excuse to throw around his powers. Especially during an election.
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Judge issues order enforcing Ebola isolation of defiant Maine nurse | Reuters
The confrontation between the state of Maine and a nurse who treated Ebola patients in Sierra Leone heated up on Friday when a judge issued a temporary order enforcing a quarantine after she defied state officials and took a bike ride.
The order from Charles LaVerdiere, chief judge of the Maine District Court, instructs nurse Kaci Hickox to submit to "direct active monitoring," and "not to be present in public places" like shopping centers, movie theaters or workplaces except to receive necessary healthcare.
The temporary order permits her to engage in what the judge called "non-congregate public activities" like walking or jogging in the park but instructs her to maintain a 3-foot (1 meter) distance from other people.
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doesn't sound unreasonable
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"I have a dream, that my four little children will one day live in a
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but by the content of their character." - M.L.King Jr
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A lot more reasonable than what essentially is house arrest.
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^^^
Seems reasonable. It allows the nurse freedom of movement while still accommodating the legitimate concerns of the public.
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I believe she's being monitored by health officials daily, as well, which I think is the most reasonable and prudent interference to put onto her life.
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She was already self-monitoring and reporting, via the instructions by the CDC and Doctors Without Borders.
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Another judge has put a stay on that ruling. This IS getting interesting. I wonder if the White House is orchestrating this as a change of focus from the mid-terms?
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Originally Posted by andi*pandi
She was already self-monitoring and reporting, via the instructions by the CDC and Doctors Without Borders.
I think it's reasonable to want third-parties to do the monitoring.
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Originally Posted by BadKosh
I wonder if the White House is orchestrating this as a change of focus from the mid-terms?
I lost track. Is this like conspiracy #4 for the thread?
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar
I lost track. Is this like conspiracy #4 for the thread?
It's just some humor. Its not like the Obama admin hasn't pulled stunts like this.
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What if all of the liberals in the mid-terms are secret illegal Mexicans?
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Many of their supporters are it seems. Or at least IGNORANT Liberals. Isn't that redundant?
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They are probably in ISIS too...
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The US is now Ebola free. You can cease you're freaking out now.
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Oh was this still a thing? 
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I don't know, did a new crisis supplant it?
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No, that's the left-wing freakout. Cruz is a master.
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I didn't read the article, but do they mention the part where republicans re-propose it in a few years and say it was their idea?
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Originally Posted by subego
I didn't read the article, but do they mention the part where republicans re-propose it in a few years and say it was their idea?
Maybe if an R gets int he White House. But even then, feels like we've been doing this dance sine the Bush years.
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The net neutrality dance, or the "not when it's the other guy" dance?
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Sung by the Pointer Sisters?
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Definitely Men Without Hats. And the video definitely MUST have the same "little people" in the Safety Dance video...
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar
The US is now Ebola free. You can cease you're freaking out now.
Not for long if you believe the reports Obama plans on bringing non citizens in for treament.
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45/47
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