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barbarian
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Dec 20, 2003, 02:30 AM
 
There is a new field in itunes when you get info on a song labeled grouping.

Anybody have any idea what this is supposed to be used for.. is it just a field like genre that can be used to sort files or does it have a specific function.
     
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Dec 20, 2003, 03:27 AM
 
i was about to ask the same thing
     
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Dec 20, 2003, 04:21 AM
 
I think I'm going to use it for making smart playlists with Soundtracks and Covers. Before I had to change the genre to cover or soundtrack or add a comment now I can use the grouping label pretty cool...
     
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Dec 20, 2003, 09:13 AM
 
According to the German help viewer file (doesn't seem to show up in the English one), "Gruppierung" is used to group certain tracks when importing, so that they will be imported WITHOUT THE SPLIT-SECOND SILENCE INSERTED BETWEEN ALL SONGS!!!!

If this is the case, but the tracks still show up as separate tracks, HOOORAY!

Long time waiting. Slightly inelegant solution, but hey.

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Dec 20, 2003, 10:23 AM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
According to the German help viewer file (doesn't seem to show up in the English one), "Gruppierung" is used to group certain tracks when importing, so that they will be imported WITHOUT THE SPLIT-SECOND SILENCE INSERTED BETWEEN ALL SONGS!!!!

If this is the case, but the tracks still show up as separate tracks, HOOORAY!

Long time waiting. Slightly inelegant solution, but hey.

-s*
No thats not what the new grouping tag is for, it's the joining tracks feature thats been around since iTunes 3..

Here's an example of a Classical album.

The first tracks 1-4 are "Symphony 40", tracks 5-8 are "Symphony 41". You could use the Grouping field for the symphony, and you wouldn't need to have it in the track titles.

Grouping is not in CDDB, so you have to enter it manually.
     
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Dec 20, 2003, 12:20 PM
 
Originally posted by badtz:
i was about to ask the same thing
So was I... It's a good thing to have MacNN forums :-)
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Dec 20, 2003, 12:23 PM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
According to the German help viewer file (doesn't seem to show up in the English one), "Gruppierung" is used to group certain tracks when importing, so that they will be imported WITHOUT THE SPLIT-SECOND SILENCE INSERTED BETWEEN ALL SONGS!!!!

If this is the case, but the tracks still show up as separate tracks, HOOORAY!

Long time waiting. Slightly inelegant solution, but hey.

-s*
My German Help Viewer doesn't show that info. What search word did you use?
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Dec 20, 2003, 12:26 PM
 
Originally posted by Busemann:
No thats not what the new grouping tag is for, it's the joining tracks feature thats been around since iTunes 3..

Here's an example of a Classical album.

The first tracks 1-4 are "Symphony 40", tracks 5-8 are "Symphony 41". You could use the Grouping field for the symphony, and you wouldn't need to have it in the track titles.

Grouping is not in CDDB, so you have to enter it manually.
Aha! That makes sense to me.

Now I would have to change all classical tracks in my DB manually though. :-(
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Dec 20, 2003, 01:01 PM
 
Originally posted by tritonus:
My German Help Viewer doesn't show that info. What search word did you use?
"Gruppierung". First and only document:
Hinzuf�gen von Musiktiteln von CDs zu Ihrer Bibliothek

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1
Legen Sie eine Audio-CD in Ihren Computer ein. Kurz darauf werden die Titel der CD im iTunes Fenster aufgelistet.


2
Durch Klicken entfernen Sie die H�kchen neben den Musiktiteln, die Sie nicht in Ihre Bibliothek importieren m�chten.


3
Wenn Sie die L�cken ohne Ton l�schen wollen, die normalerweise zwischen zwei Musiktiteln vorhanden sind, w�hlen Sie zwei oder mehr aufeinander folgende Titel aus. W�hlen Sie dann "Erweitert" > "Titel gruppieren".


iTunes importiert alle gruppierten Titel als in einen Titel. Wenn Sie Musiktitel wieder separat importieren m�chten, w�hlen Sie die gruppierten Musiktitel aus. W�hlen Sie dann "Erweitert" > "Titel-Gruppierung aufheben".
Seems as though this is old, though, so...

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Dec 20, 2003, 01:14 PM
 
Originally posted by Spheric Harlot:
"Gruppierung". First and only document:
Seems as though this is old, though, so...

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This does not apply to the new info field. I second Busemann's opinion (see his post).
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Dec 20, 2003, 04:21 PM
 
Originally posted by tritonus:
This does not apply to the new info field. I second Busemann's opinion (see his post).
Agreed.

It was news to me, though.

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Jan 8, 2004, 05:58 PM
 
Look here:
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/M...listId=4567708

How can I do this grouping effect with my own albums in iTunes?
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Jan 8, 2004, 06:05 PM
 
Originally posted by tritonus:
Look here:
http://phobos.apple.com/WebObjects/M...listId=4567708

How can I do this grouping effect with my own albums in iTunes?
You can't (yet)
     
   
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