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According to the lawsuit, Hall was counseled by his platoon sergeant after being informed that his promotion was blocked. He says the sergeant explained that Hall would be "unable to put aside his personal convictions and pray with his troops" and would have trouble bonding with them if promoted to a leadership position.
How can you be turned down for a promotion because you can't lead a prayer group? Whose God are they praying to anyway? And he can't bond with his troops? So belief in a God is required to bond with someone???
Atheist soldier says Army punished him - Yahoo! News
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Sounds like they blocked him because he habitually complains. If you bitch and rock the boat too much they tend to cycle you out.
I'd like to see his file, bet it's very colorful.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
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Originally Posted by Shaddim 
Sounds like they blocked him because he habitually complains. If you bitch and rock the boat too much they tend to cycle you out.
I'd like to see his file, bet it's very colorful.
Thats what I was thinking since he seems to be quick to file a lawsuit, but it was the statement I quoted above that bothered me about the whole deal. I've heard similar things before about non-Christians being passed up for promotions.
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He may have fabricated that part, who knows? What did the sergeant say about the discussion?
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Awfully much conjecture coming from someone without knowledge about the case.
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Originally Posted by - - e r i k - -
Awfully much conjecture coming from someone without knowledge about the case.
He may have fabricated that part, who knows? What did the sergeant say about the discussion?
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A classic example of one presupposition assuming the other is fallacious based on the same degree of information. The NNs... can't live with 'em, can't disagree without 'em.
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This should be all but impossible to prove.
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The military is built around conformity. God and faith are a strong part of military service. I'm sure atheists are treated as pariah and commonly passed by for promotion.
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Don't ask/Don't tell about religion (or lackthereof)?
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Could someone please show some evidence that G-d and faith are a strong part of military service?
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Originally Posted by Dakar the Fourth
This should be all but impossible to prove.
That doesn't stop the usual suspects from coming to their own conclusions around here.
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Originally Posted by Atheist
The military is built around conformity. God and faith are a strong part of military service. I'm sure atheists are treated as pariah and commonly passed by for promotion.
Of all the military people I've known, only one has evidently given more of a crap about God or faith than your average Joe.
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"Those who expect to reap the blessings of freedom must, like men, undergo the fatigue of supporting it."
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In other military news, "Two bombings killed at least 54 people and wounded 123 more in a bustling shopping district in the heart of Baghdad on Thursday evening, Iraqi authorities said." ( link) Not that anyone cares.
On topic, "According to the lawsuit" is the key phrase. Just like Buckaroo's posts have to be prepended with "according to some spam email I got." Generally, just because a lawyer says so, or just because you heard something on the internet, doesn't make it accurate. This is pretty questionable. (That said, if you follow the case, let us know the outcome.)
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The 4 o'clock train will be a bus.
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Originally Posted by Atheist
The military is built around conformity. God and faith are a strong part of military service. I'm sure atheists are treated as pariah and commonly passed by for promotion.
You may be sure but that doesn't make your contention true. Care to share the basis for you're completely incorrect assumption?
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Originally Posted by vmarks
Could someone please show some evidence that God and faith are a strong part of military service?
Glory, glory freakin' hallelujah!
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Originally Posted by Atomic Rooster
Glory, glory freakin' hallelujah!
The Battle Hymn of the Republic is considered evidence of current military attitudes?
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