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Englishmen, need telecom advice!
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Mac Elite
Join Date: Mar 2001
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A customer of us has a new sales employee in England, sitting in some forsaken village in Oxfordshire. She needs a ISDN line with two numbers and an internet access (DSL 1 MBit would be enough).
What are the options out there - What would you suggest?
Thanks!
Powerbook
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Easiest option: Just phone BT and get everything off them. Probably looking at Home Highway (ISDN) and just the standard ADSL package.
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Join Date: Mar 2000
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Why on earth does she need ISDN?
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Join Date: Dec 2000
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ISDN?? Why??? *ahem* broadband ADSL *ahem*
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It'll be much easier if you just comply.
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Mac Elite
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Okay okay, she doesn't need ISDN itself, but two separated numbers (one for private calls, one for everything business related)... 
What provider with what package has a decent price?
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Just go with BT (British Telecom). I haven't lived in the UK for several years now, but BT was good, affordable and reliable las time I used them.
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go for BT and Nildram as your broadband ISP.
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we don't have time to stop for gas
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FYI HomeHighway (multi-line ISDN for the home) is discontinued: my parents have it at home (in Oxfordshire). It was useful before DSL was available here, and for the multiple lines. They recently got a letter stating that it was being discontinued.
If you want ISDN it's now only a business option - I'd just go for two conventional BT lines - with DSL on one of them (don't go for BT for the DSL service though.)
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Originally Posted by Diggory Laycock 
FYI HomeHighway (multi-line ISDN for the home) is discontinued: my parents have it at home (in Oxfordshire). It was useful before DSL was available here, and for the multiple lines. They recently got a letter stating that it was being discontinued.
Wow, that sucks. What the heck do they expect people who can't get ADSL to do?
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Originally Posted by Doofy
Wow, that sucks. What the heck do they expect people who can't get ADSL to do?
How is ISDN anywhere near a viable alternative to ADSL?
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Originally Posted by Angus_D
How is ISDN anywhere near a viable alternative to ADSL?
It's the only real affordable option for those who live beyond the reach of ADSL. That's still a lot of people. Let's put it this way, I've recently been looking at rural houses and hardly any of them can get ADSL, despite what the DTI would have us believe (they're probably going on exchange info only and completely disregarding people who're on the exchange but just outside of ADSL line reach).
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Originally Posted by Doofy
Wow, that sucks. What the heck do they expect people who can't get ADSL to do?
To be fair, with the link of derbs I found out even this tiny village is connected to an ADSL backbone. What I still don't get is the (also price) structure of ISDN in the UK. It costs more than the double than here in Germany. And I do know we have some of the highest prices in Europe.
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PB.
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Originally Posted by Diggory Laycock
FYI HomeHighway (multi-line ISDN for the home) is discontinued: my parents have it at home (in Oxfordshire). It was useful before DSL was available here, and for the multiple lines. They recently got a letter stating that it was being discontinued.
I read they stopped the selling already in 2005 and will stop the service entirely in February 2007...
Strange.
Regards
PB.
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Originally Posted by Peter
go for BT and Nildram as your broadband ISP.
And then change to Zen the next month when you realise how bad Nildram have become since the Pipex takover.
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BT do a very cheap option where they give you an extra phone number that rings with a different tone on the same line, cheap way of having 2 different numbers on one line. I can't remember the name of the service though.
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Originally Posted by Doofy
Wow, that sucks. What the heck do they expect people who can't get ADSL to do?
Post letters?
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It's called BT Call Sign.
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Mac Elite
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Originally Posted by WOPR
BT do a very cheap option where they give you an extra phone number that rings with a different tone on the same line, cheap way of having 2 different numbers on one line. I can't remember the name of the service though.
Sounds like a cool idea. What about the outgoing calls though? She would have to submit a clearly separated line-up of business calls...
Regards
PB
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Originally Posted by Powerbook
Sounds like a cool idea. What about the outgoing calls though? She would have to submit a clearly separated line-up of business calls...
Regards
PB
Ah. Er. She'd need some spare time and a highlighter pen then!
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Originally Posted by Powerbook
To be fair, with the link of derbs I found out even this tiny village is connected to an ADSL backbone. What I still don't get is the (also price) structure of ISDN in the UK. It costs more than the double than here in Germany. And I do know we have some of the highest prices in Europe.
Regards
PB.
Well, here's the thing: you have some of the highest prices in Europe, whereas we have the highest prices in Europe.
The same can be said of cars, houses, beer, petrol, ...
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Originally Posted by Powerbook
To be fair, with the link of derbs I found out even this tiny village is connected to an ADSL backbone.
I get that. I'm not talking about those who live in the centre of the village - I'm talking about those who live a small way away from it. Seriously, I've been typing all sorts of postcodes into the ADSL checker in the last couple of weeks - barely any of them came back as ADSL capable. 
Originally Posted by Powerbook
What I still don't get is the (also price) structure of ISDN in the UK. It costs more than the double than here in Germany. And I do know we have some of the highest prices in Europe.
The UK is a rip-off in almost every respect. Plus, there's never been much demand for ISDN.
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Originally Posted by biscuit
Well, here's the thing: you have some of the highest prices in Europe, whereas we have the highest prices in Europe.
The same can be said of cars, houses, beer, petrol, ...
biscuit
You also get paid more, the GBP is so strong you get tons of cash when you exchange currency outside Europe.
Some benefits .
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