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cms · Jun 16, 2002, 04:08 AM

I paid my $8 (not a lot for such a great program), received my key and everything worked fine. Until I had to reboot. Then.......nothing. WeatherPop wouldn't even launch, much less tell me anything. So, I trashed every WeatherPop file I could find, downloaded the newest version and tried again. This time, I get rows and rows of question marks and not even an option to tap in my software key.

Anyone else have this problem? And what can I do to fix it?

starfleetX · Jun 16, 2002, 04:28 AM

Strange indeed... I've never seen anything like that before.

Have you asked Lisa (WeatherPop's creator) about it yet?
Her e-mail: <a href="mailto:[email protected]" target="_blank">[email protected]</a>

[ 06-16-2002, 04:29 AM: Message edited by: starfleetX ]

tinrib · Jun 16, 2002, 04:50 AM

I had this problem after installing perl 5.6.1 and a bunch of perl modules. I think weatherpop has some perl code that broke.

starfleetX · Jun 16, 2002, 06:19 AM

Ah, it's definitely something to do with perl.

Check your Console, cms, for something that may look like this:

<blockquote>quote:<hr />2002-06-16 06:13:34.769 WeatherPop[5304] Bad returned data from /Applications/WeatherPop.app/Contents/Resources/weather.pl<hr /></blockquote>Mine just failed to launch. Though, instead of closing, the process was still running but just didn't show in the menubar. I killed it manually, then re-launched it, and it opened and ran just fine. Strange. Very strange indeed.

[ 06-16-2002, 06:20 AM: Message edited by: starfleetX ]

cms · Jun 16, 2002, 06:52 AM

2002-06-16 06:13:34.769 WeatherPop[5304] Bad returned data from /Applications/WeatherPop.app/Contents/Resources/weather.pl
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Just checked my console and that's exactly what I found. I followed the same process as you and it's now running absolutely fine. Like you say: Strange. Very strange indeed.

Thanks, as ever, for your assistance.

tinrib · Jun 16, 2002, 07:08 AM

my console reads:

2002-06-16 21:03:44.521 WeatherPop[27872] Vended com.glu.WeatherPop

2002-06-16 21:03:46.396 WeatherPop[27872] Error refreshing data: perl: warning: Setting locale failed.

perl: warning: Please check that your locale settings:

LC_ALL = (unset),

LANG = "en_US"

are supported and installed on your system.

perl: warning: Falling back to the standard locale ("C").

I tried setenv LANG "en_US" and checked that LC_ALL was unset but it still gives the same message...

cms · Jun 16, 2002, 07:25 AM

One further (I hope not silly) question:

Is this likely to happen each time I reboot? And is there anything I can do to stop this groovy little app failing?

OS X takes long enough to start up as it is. Having to fiddle about with apps just to get them working at all is pretty annoying and time-wasting.

tinrib · Jun 16, 2002, 07:58 AM

I emailed Lisa and referred her to this thread. Hopefully we'll get an answer soon

cms · Jun 16, 2002, 08:11 AM

Thanks tinrib! I hope there's an easy fix to this.

BTW, I note that while you are now living in Melbourne, you originally hale from Bristol. I am from Bath originally and now live near London......by way of Hong Kong (13 years) and Singapore (5 years).

Small world, isn't it?!!! And really nice to "meet" someone from the West Country.

tinrib · Jun 16, 2002, 08:17 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by cms:
Thanks tinrib! I hope there's an easy fix to this.

BTW, I note that while you are now living in Melbourne, you originally hale from Bristol. I am from Bath originally and now live near London......by way of Hong Kong (13 years) and Singapore (5 years).

Small world, isn't it?!!! And really nice to "meet" someone from the West Country.

<hr /></blockquote>Cool. My Dad lives in Bath, originally in Camden Crescent but now he has switched to the other side of town and is living in Bear Flat. Lovely place but not enough life for me. I will be back in Bristol next year sometime - I love Bristol!

(much more than London)

King Bob On The Cob · Jun 16, 2002, 01:07 PM

I'm getting different errors...
Console:
2002-06-16 12:02:37.662 WeatherPop[665] Couldn't load image wind
2002-06-16 12:02:37.672 WeatherPop[665] Couldn't load image wind
2002-06-16 12:02:37.679 WeatherPop[665] Vended com.glu.WeatherPop
2002-06-16 12:02:38.282 WeatherPop[665] Bad returned data from /Users/nick/Applications/WeatherPop.app/Contents/Resources/weather.pl
2002-06-16 12:02:38.283 WeatherPop[665] making new timer to fire in 15 minutes

Adam Betts · Jun 16, 2002, 04:13 PM

I wish WeatherPop could be movable in the menubar. That's the only thing I need before using it full time.

CheesePuff · Jun 16, 2002, 04:22 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Adam Betts:
I wish WeatherPop could be movable in the menubar. That's the only thing I need before using it full time.<hr /></blockquote>It's not a true Menu Extra (.menu) so it never will until it becomes a .menu.

starfleetX · Jun 17, 2002, 02:58 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by King Bob On The Cob:
I'm getting different errors...
Console:
2002-06-16 12:02:37.662 WeatherPop[665] Couldn't load image wind
2002-06-16 12:02:37.672 WeatherPop[665] Couldn't load image wind
2002-06-16 12:02:37.679 WeatherPop[665] Vended com.glu.WeatherPop
2002-06-16 12:02:38.282 WeatherPop[665] Bad returned data from /Users/nick/Applications/WeatherPop.app/Contents/Resources/weather.pl
2002-06-16 12:02:38.283 WeatherPop[665] making new timer to fire in 15 minutes<hr /></blockquote>Actually, I got all of those errors too. I only posted the single *.pl line because I didn't think the others were as relevant.
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Adam Betts:
I wish WeatherPop could be movable in the menubar. That's the only thing I need before using it full time.<hr /></blockquote>Agreed. <img border="0" alt="[Hmmm]" title="" src="graemlins/hmmm.gif" />

I really do wish developers would use the proper APIs for things like this. WeatherPop and NetMonitor would be ten times better, IMO, if they were true menu extras. They both feel funky and out of place when you actually try to interact with them rather than just look at them.

iSilver · Jun 17, 2002, 03:08 AM

i tried this program and couldnt get any location to work at all ... i emailed the author and got the same response to the question submitted to her here on this thread - NONE.

iSilver · Jun 17, 2002, 03:14 AM

i tried this program and couldnt get any location to work at all ... i emailed the author and got the same response to the question submitted to her here on this thread - NONE.

Mactoid · Jun 17, 2002, 03:30 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by starfleetX:
I really do wish developers would use the proper APIs for things like this. WeatherPop and NetMonitor would be ten times better, IMO, if they were true menu extras. They both feel funky and out of place when you actually try to interact with them rather than just look at them.<hr /></blockquote>I emailed the developer about this. Here's her reply:
<blockquote>quote:<hr />Yes, I think we've gotten enough requests for this to warrant it. I think it won't make 1.1 though, so it'll be 1.2. I want to make sure the app is as stable as possible so it doesn't crash the SystemUIServer. (=
-lisa<hr /></blockquote>

tinrib · Jun 17, 2002, 03:32 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by iSilver:
i tried this program and couldnt get any location to work at all ... i emailed the author and got the same response to the question submitted to her here on this thread - NONE.<hr /></blockquote>patience - I only emailed her yesterday (a sunday)

whereabouts in Melbourne do you live? I never see melbourne people on the boards but just recently there has been a spate... (is spate a real word? I don't think I have ever written it before

)