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EdGein · 11:23 AM

Naw, I'll just make up account after account like Rob does.

If a certain admin wants to be a jerk, so can I.

Hell, I might even start posting in the PL again.

skelotar · Jul 21, 2005, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by budster101

The vernacular is niggah, not nigger...

(i.e., Yo, niggha wuzzup?)

Which reminds me of a funny to lighten the (load) in here a tad-teeney-wee-bit. < That's white devil speak >

http://www.pocketmovies.net/cat_5_0.html
Scroll down to wassabe commercial.

BTW: Rob, you do know that Budweiser made the wassup commercials right? ....

You and ke^in just couldn't avoid it ha? Saying "the n word" just wouldn't suffice? Well, seeing as this is a public forum, there is a possibility of someone african american reading this that might be offended. Its just as bad as you saying it to an african american in public.

Internet Freedom of speech / racism is the ultimate liberator. I'm sure you guys aren't racist, and that you also think that "Its ok because I was using it to illustrate a point." But I wish you had the same balls to say it in person.

Hope you didn't take offense to any of that.

budster101 · Jul 21, 2005, 10:57 AM

Wait just one cotton pick'n minute. Redneck and Whitedevil are ok with you? But when I mention a legitimate slang word used in ebonics, then you get all riled up right?

Would you say your post to me in person? After all, I'm a very large person who does like pickup trucks and calvin stickers who on occassion drinks budweiser beer...

EdGein · Jul 21, 2005, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by skelotar

You and ke^in just couldn't avoid it ha? Saying "the n word" just wouldn't suffice? Well, seeing as this is a public forum, there is a possibility of someone african american reading this that might be offended. Its just as bad as you saying it to an african american in public.

What? We were using it in comparison. Not in hateful way. I am sure if any African American read that, they would also see that.

Shaddim · Jul 21, 2005, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Larr

You non southerners realize the term redneck is offensive, right?

We've tried explaining that, but they insist that it isn't. *ahem*

They rely on their ethnic slurs, so we simply ignore it now.

BoomStick · Jul 21, 2005, 11:20 AM

I'm not really suprized at the double standard here.

budster101 · Jul 21, 2005, 11:21 AM

I'm still shocked and awed at the double-standard here.

Catholic Priests are open game, but whoa, don't even think of using the "ebonics" to be taught in schools...

EdGein · Jul 21, 2005, 11:21 AM

Originally Posted by BoomStick

I'm not really suprized at the double standard here.

MacNN is making it's own reputation on the web.

Doofy · Jul 21, 2005, 11:26 AM

Originally Posted by Mark Larr

You non southerners realize the term redneck is offensive, right?

Embrace it.

EdGein · Jul 21, 2005, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by Doofy

Embrace it.

skelotar · Jul 21, 2005, 11:36 AM

Wait just one cotton pick'n minute. Redneck and Whitedevil are ok with you? But when I mention a legitimate slang word used in ebonics, then you get all riled up right?

Would you say your post to me in person? After all, I'm a very large person who does like pickup trucks and calvin stickers who on occassion drinks budweiser beer...

I have no qualms with saying my post to you in person. You know good and well you wouldn't say that to a black person, not because you don't sincerely have ill-feelings toward them in the inside, but because its simply rude and insensitive. It would more than likely end in fighting. Same as if I called you a (insert racial explicitive).. Understand?

I can't vouch for Catholic Priests, because I'm not one and i'm sure none of you would either.

I don't use either term you've listed above, nor do I harbor any ill-will or malice towards white people.

Fight your own battles, and if you aren't willing to help or contribute to a solution, move on and don't try to excuse your behavior.

EdGein · Jul 21, 2005, 11:38 AM

skel trying to help or contribute to a solution gets you banned.

heck just asking certain people just to be a bit nicer gets you harassed.

And I am not talking about the posters.

xi_hyperon · Jul 21, 2005, 11:40 AM

I see something in this thread's future.

Hmm... it's metallic.

And it goes *click*

EdGein · Jul 21, 2005, 11:42 AM

Yeah not surprised it wasn't done by now...

Like in the first 5 posts of this thread.

budster101 · Jul 21, 2005, 11:44 AM

You would have a problem if you said that to me in person. I'm telling you so. You would have a heated debate on your hands.

I wouldn't have a problem discussing the "niggah" slang world with black people, not if they plan on having it taught in schools.

I have a family member who is a Catholic Priest, and I AM OFFENDED at the picture posted at the top of this thread.

I don't need an excuse for anything. I don't hold any malice against black people. There is an obvious double-standard in these forums.

I didn't call anyone "niggah". That's the point, and I never would call anyone this word. It was used entirely for educational purposes... and as far as some educational systems are concerned, it's going to be the norm, so get used to that.

EdGein · Jul 21, 2005, 11:46 AM

Not just a double standard, but a huge chip that someone needs to get off his shoulder.

dlefebvre · Jul 21, 2005, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by loki74

I thought duct tape was originally called duck tape, due to its waterproof properties--water slides off of it similar to that of the back of a duck... and then it because later known as duct tape when they found it was very useful in ducts? ...am I crazy?

And crazy enough, some contractors are saying that duct tape should be use everywhere but on ducts. For heating or cooling ducts, you should use metal tape.

skelotar · Jul 21, 2005, 11:52 AM

No double standard. White people refer to each other one way, black people refer to themselves another. But those lines aren't crossed.

Thats a simple, single standard.

And there's no chip here, I have no aspirations to be an internet race cop. I've had much worse happen, just hoping we can keep macnn a place where everyone can commune and enjoy.

EdGein · Jul 21, 2005, 11:53 AM

Originally Posted by skelotar

No double standard. White people refer to each other one way, black people refer to themselves another. But those lines aren't crossed.

Thats a simple, single standard.

How does one know what color who is on an internet forum?

Besides, I was told if it offended someone, NOT to do it. I was told by a certain admin in here.

And there's no chip here, I have no aspirations to be an internet race cop. I've had much worse happen, just hoping we can keep macnn a place where everyone can commune and enjoy.

I wasn't referring to you.

skelotar · Jul 21, 2005, 11:56 AM

EdGein: Understood..

No one knows what color anyone is until someone says something that offends someone else.

Like if I say "Honda Civics Suck" I'd find out who all the honda civic supporters are..

budster101 · Jul 21, 2005, 11:57 AM

I think he was referring to someone with uncanny encyclopedic knowledge, self professed of course...

wataru · Jul 21, 2005, 12:28 PM

I don't know about the rest of you guys, but I'd really like a "Zimphire is currently known as" indicator on the board somewhere so I can know who to add to my ignore list.

EdGein · Jul 21, 2005, 12:31 PM

Hey wataru, maybe you can get tooki to implement that.

Chicks would dig it.

finboy · 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by loki74

I thought duct tape was originally called duck tape, due to its waterproof properties--water slides off of it similar to that of the back of a duck... and then it because later known as duct tape when they found it was very useful in ducts? ...am I crazy?

There may be a snopes reference on it, but duct tape is just that -- tape used to tape HVAC ducts. I first remember using it about 1972 or so, and it was duct tape (or gaffer's tape) back then.

The reference to "metal tape" that someone made may be valid these days, with newer technology, but I've crawled around lots of ducts with good old duct tape on them.

As for git-r-done, I've heard that phrase all of my life. It has no sexual connotation AFAIK.

finboy · Jul 21, 2005, 01:19 PM

Originally Posted by ReggieX

Some retarded redneck catchphrase.

I stopped trying to get folks to recognize the double standard a long time ago.

I think the term "redneck" would apply as a "fighting word." But I'm not sure.

budster101 · Jul 21, 2005, 01:20 PM

Sexual connotation with the phrase "git-r-done" ?

I've heard that phrase for years, as it relates to getting a job done...

EdGein · 01:29 PM

Originally Posted by finboy

I stopped trying to get folks to recognize the double standard a long time ago.

I think the term "redneck" would apply as a "fighting word." But I'm not sure.

Yes, yes it would.

You wouldn't call someone a redneck to their face. That should tell you something right there.

(Well I guess you could, if you didn't have a any intentions on keeping your teeth)

But we have seen what certain admins think about using the that word in here. But you can't say anything to them about it or they will ban you.

As a matter of fact, I just got banned again for saying I think calling someone a redneck is a bad thing.

I guess he is still taking it personally.

wataru · Jul 21, 2005, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by budster101

Sexual connotation with the phrase "git-r-done" ?

I've heard that phrase for years, as it relates to getting a job done...

I assumed that "R" stood for "her," making it "get her done." It's not hard to get a sexual connotation from that.

wallinbl · Jul 21, 2005, 01:25 PM

Originally Posted by ghporter

"Larry the Cable Guy" needs to have a horrible, yet amusingly odd accident to end his career. It's revolting-the character, the patter, the "humor," ALL of it. I like the "No Fear" (and the rip off "Ain't Skeered") stuff a lot more than Larry's drivvel. <puke!> Make no mistake, I'm not ranting against "Southern humor" or even redneck stuff (I paid good money to go to a Bill Engvall show and loved it!). I just dispise the depths that "Larry" dives to.

I think Larry is funny. Crude, but funny. On the other hand, I can't take Dave Chappelle, and don't care for the content of some of his stuff.

budster101 · Jul 21, 2005, 01:28 PM

Originally Posted by wataru

I assumed that "R" stood for "her," making it "get her done." It's not hard to get a sexual connotation from that.

That't the problem. We often think of jobs as "Shes" not "HEs"...

Boats are labeled as women often, cars, etc. It's a label we apply and the slang phrase picks up on that inuendo, but it's not sexual.

I think it actually means, pull up your pants and get it done, as in the job.
Not, take down your pants and do her...

finboy · Jul 21, 2005, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by xi_hyperon

I'm in redneck country, and yes it is a prevalent phrase unfortunately. No one has said it to me directly, which is good, because I would consider them's to be fightin' words.

"White trash" is more of the fighting phrase, I guess.

EdGein · Jul 21, 2005, 01:38 PM

Originally Posted by finboy

"White trash" is more of the fighting phrase, I guess.

What makes them trash, and you not?

How are you better than they are? What have you done to make this a better/safer/more understanding place?

finboy · Jul 21, 2005, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by EdGein

What makes them trash, and you not?

How are you better than they are? What have you done to make this a better/safer/more understanding place?

Talk about a chip. I was merely mentioning that calling someone "white trash" was a great way to initiate an altercation.

I generally lump "redneck," "white trash," "honkey" and "cracker" together with those racial slurs that folks have already mentioned in this thread. They are all offensive, and indicate either the user's prejudice or ignorance, or both.

Was Ed Gein a redneck, or a cracker?

jasonsRX7 · Jul 21, 2005, 01:43 PM

Look, there's no friendly way to approach someone and call them a redneck, unless it's someone you're already friends with. You'd get your ass kicked for being a dick, not so much for using the word itself.

And that goes back to what I said about it being more about who says it, and the context it's being said in.

EdGein · Jul 21, 2005, 01:49 PM

Originally Posted by finboy

Talk about a chip. I was merely mentioning that calling someone "white trash" was a great way to initiate an altercation.

I mis-read what you said. I apologize.

EdGein · 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by jasonsRX7

Look, there's no friendly way to approach someone and call them a redneck, unless it's someone you're already friends with. You'd get your ass kicked for being a dick, not so much for using the word itself.

And that goes back to what I said about it being more about who says it, and the context it's being said in.

I agree. like two homosexuals can call each other "fags" and it not matter.

But if I came in here and said "So and so looked faggish" that would be offensive.

Makes perfect sense.

Tooki once jumped me for using "fag0rt" in an image. At the time I didn't agree I was doing anything wrong.

He told me if it offended anyone, it being a offensive word, not to do it.

Now I agree. I just wish there was consistency.

finboy · Jul 21, 2005, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by jasonsRX7

for being a dick,

I take offense at the use of that word to describe someone who is being a jerk.

wataru · Jul 21, 2005, 02:09 PM

Originally Posted by budster101

That't the problem. We often think of jobs as "Shes" not "HEs"...

Boats are labeled as women often, cars, etc. It's a label we apply and the slang phrase picks up on that inuendo, but it's not sexual.

I think it actually means, pull up your pants and get it done, as in the job.
Not, take down your pants and do her...

I've heard of vehicles and countries referred to with feminine pronouns, but never jobs.

EdGein · Jul 21, 2005, 02:12 PM

That goes a long with "get er up the hill" when telling someone to hurry up and get to the top of the hill.

One doesn't have to be talking to a female when saying such things.

Just how they pronounce said words.

They actually say the southern accent comes from the German and French accent turned into English.

That is where the draw comes from.

Esp in Louisiana, he Cajun dialect stems from French accents.

So your basic southerner probably had French or German ancestors.

Remember, America is just a reflection of the rest of the world.

budster101 · Jul 21, 2005, 02:13 PM

Let's fix'r up... (Fix the car, boat, etc...)

Get'r done... (same thing, but generic)

I hope this helps.

Doofy · Jul 21, 2005, 02:27 PM

Not nearly enough pics of good ol' gals in this thread.

wataru · Jul 21, 2005, 02:55 PM

Originally Posted by budster101

Let's fix'r up... (Fix the car, boat, etc...)

Get'r done... (same thing, but generic)

I hope this helps.

Like I said, I've heard "her" used to refer to vehicles plenty of times. But never for a generic task.

budster101 · Jul 21, 2005, 03:11 PM

Now your mind has been expanded... don'tcha feel lucky?

wataru · Jul 21, 2005, 03:21 PM

Actually I feel much stupider for having read this thread.

budster101 · Jul 21, 2005, 03:38 PM

Well then, at lease you got something out of it...

xi_hyperon · Jul 21, 2005, 03:43 PM

Originally Posted by wataru

Actually I feel much stupider for having read this thread.

I'm beginning to think that was Millennium's intention all along.

bradoesch · Jul 21, 2005, 04:35 PM

budster101 · Jul 21, 2005, 04:42 PM

I feel sleepy...zzzzzzzzzz

EdGein · Jul 21, 2005, 04:45 PM

waiting for that pic to get tookinated...

greenamp · Jul 21, 2005, 04:50 PM

Redneck is a derogatory term, and no one uses it more frequently than southerners. Anyone who would be offended by the word obviously doesn't visit a Mac forum, or even own a computer for that matter.

The "proud to be a redneck" stuff just boggles my mind though. It's like saying "yes, I'm illiterate, poor white trash but I'm damn proud of it!"