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MDD867 · Oct 6, 2003, 07:55 AM

Photoshop EPS files with a clipping path are broken in 7B85, has anyboy else noticed this?

I Installed 7B85 using erase and install, then Installed PS 7.0.1 and FH MX 11.0.1 and Indesign 2.0.2.

Neither of the above can import Photoshop EPS files with a clipping path created in 7B85. Result: Program crash or a "blank" placed image.

Don't know if this is Adobe's or Apple's problem, but it's serious anyway...

bracken · Oct 6, 2003, 08:16 AM

Anyone else notice this in 7B85?

If you engage Expose quickly after choosing a different pane in System Preferences (for example), then highlight the System Preferences window, the "highlight" is the size of the old pane.

gorickey · Oct 6, 2003, 08:27 AM

Originally posted by bracken:
Anyone else notice this in 7B85?

If you engage Expose quickly after choosing a different pane in System Preferences (for example), then highlight the System Preferences window, the "highlight" is the size of the old pane.

Too much time on your hands?

....by the way, this makes perfect sense if you ask me because the Expos� highlight is going to be derived from the last current window state before you engage Expos�...

piracy · Oct 6, 2003, 08:51 AM

Originally posted by Robo-X:
7B85 gives a garbled screen on a Lombard when using both RAM slots. It has exactly the same problem as the pulled 10.2.8 update had. IMO the 7B85 is not GM and there is still no word from Apple that 10.3 has gone gold.

//Rob

The initial release of Mac OS X 10.3 is complete, and golden master.

The build is 7B85, which is what will be in the retail boxes.

I'm sorry that Apple hasn't knocked on your door with a f*cking fruit basket to inform you of this.

piracy · Oct 6, 2003, 08:54 AM

Originally posted by Spliff:
why does my Firewire HD have an eject symbol next to it in the Sidebar?

All media that can be unmounted has an eject symbol next to it. This goes for network volumes as well.

Robo-X · Oct 6, 2003, 08:59 AM

Originally posted by piracy:
The initial release of Mac OS X 10.3 is complete, and golden master.

The build is 7B85, which is what will be in the retail boxes.

I'm sorry that Apple hasn't knocked on your door with a f*cking fruit basket to inform you of this.

Says who? When Jaguar went gold there was a notice on Apples site. If b85 is indeed GM then Apple better prepare for a rough ride.

//Rob

piracy · Oct 6, 2003, 09:03 AM

Originally posted by Robo-X:
Says who? When Jaguar went gold there was a notice on Apples site. If b85 is indeed GM then Apple better prepare for a rough ride.

//Rob

And there was no notice for Mac OS X 10.0 or 10.1.

Ahh, Deja vu: "If <4K78/5G64/6C115> is indeed GM then Apple better prepare for a rough ride..."

Gee4orce · Oct 6, 2003, 09:26 AM

Does anyone else have a problem with the Help Viewer application ? It refuses toload for me - at all.

gorickey · Oct 6, 2003, 09:27 AM

Originally posted by Gee4orce:
Does anyone else have a problem with the Help Viewer application ? It refuses toload for me - at all.

Sorry, works great here....

Agasthya · Oct 6, 2003, 09:52 AM

Originally posted by gorickey:
Sorry, works great here....

Help viewer is by far the most improved application in panther. It no longer takes 4 years to open.

ZildjianKX · Oct 6, 2003, 10:18 AM

Just to warn you guys, classic support seems to be somewhat messed up. Some of my classic games that worked in Jaguar no longer work in Panther, like Abuse.

besson3c · Oct 6, 2003, 10:22 AM

Originally posted by ZildjianKX:
Just to warn you guys, classic support seems to be somewhat messed up. Some of my classic games that worked in Jaguar no longer work in Panther, like Abuse.

Classic......Abuse...... hmmmm, this sounds like a joke in the making. Somebody have a punch line here?

+ spiral + · Oct 6, 2003, 10:30 AM

Originally posted by SMacTech:
I have a Geforce4 MX in my MDD 867 and have no problems at all. Looks great on my new 20" Cinema Display

As seen in this thread ... sawtooth motherboard.

gorickey · Oct 6, 2003, 11:14 AM

Originally posted by Agasthya:
Help viewer is by far the most improved application in panther. It no longer takes 4 years to open.

I don't know, ASP (Apple System Profiler) is a hell-u-va lot faster too...

Jim Paradise · Oct 6, 2003, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by besson3c:
Classic......Abuse...... hmmmm, this sounds like a joke in the making. Somebody have a punch line here?

A donkey punch perhaps?

*drum splash*

Zimphire · Oct 6, 2003, 12:07 PM

Originally posted by Vader�s Pinch of Death:
Perhaps you are being punished for stealing?

addiecool · Oct 6, 2003, 01:05 PM

Can anyone post screenshots for me on their web space. I have shots of new icons in Print Center and new behaviour.

Thanks

Busemann · Oct 6, 2003, 02:41 PM

It seems they have removed the Epson Stylus 2000P drivers that were included in Jaguar. Is it possible to just move the plugin from 10.2 to Panther, as its not on Epson's web-page either?

Agasthya · Oct 6, 2003, 03:06 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:
I don't know, ASP (Apple System Profiler) is a hell-u-va lot faster too...

Good point. You probably win because ASP is infinitely more useful than Help Viewer.

keston · Oct 6, 2003, 04:03 PM

I think Abuse is free or something now. There are also carbon/cocoa ports for the Abuse app now I think that uses your original data files. Don't ask me where, i just heard. Search google.

Originally posted by ZildjianKX:
Just to warn you guys, classic support seems to be somewhat messed up. Some of my classic games that worked in Jaguar no longer work in Panther, like Abuse.

Link · Oct 6, 2003, 04:19 PM

This just in!!

According to my junk mail folder OS 10.3 7B85 makes you shed pounds!

It also makes your sex life better and makes you look younger too!!!

Best of all, it's JUST 5 payments of $29.95 if you ORDER NOW!

Landos Mustache · Oct 6, 2003, 04:29 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:

What does a gay cruise have anything to do with you stealing OSX 10.3?

I wouuld like to go on a cruise though if you are inviting me.

tRr · Oct 6, 2003, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by Busemann:
It seems they have removed the Epson Stylus 2000P drivers that were included in Jaguar. Is it possible to just move the plugin from 10.2 to Panther, as its not on Epson's web-page either?

They have been moved to the 3rd disc under "EPSON Printer Drivers 2"

dreamBweaver · Oct 6, 2003, 05:25 PM

7b85 is the first Panther build I've tried. Does anyone know why there's no longer an option in the desktop's "Show View Options" (Command + J) that lets your hide icons for mounted drives, etc.

lookmark · Oct 6, 2003, 05:26 PM

Originally posted by dreamBweaver:
7b85 is the first Panther build I've tried. Does anyone know why there's no longer an option in the desktop's "Show View Options" (Command + J) that lets your hide icons for mounted drives, etc.

Those options have always been in Finder Preferences.

ZildjianKX · Oct 6, 2003, 05:34 PM

Originally posted by keston:
I think Abuse is free or something now. There are also carbon/cocoa ports for the Abuse app now I think that uses your original data files. Don't ask me where, i just heard. Search google.

Wow, there is a carbon version, thanks!

Some classic stuff is still messed up though, just so you guys know.

Zimphire · Oct 6, 2003, 06:01 PM

Originally posted by Landos Mustache:
What does a gay cruise have anything to do with you stealing OSX 10.3?

What does me stealing 10.3 dev builds have anything to do with this thread?

bracken · Oct 6, 2003, 06:55 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:
Too much time on your hands?

Still pissed from that Lounge argument 6 months ago? Good grief, what do you do, keep an enemies list under your box of tissues.

....by the way, this makes perfect sense if you ask me because the Expos� highlight is going to be derived from the last current window state before you engage Expos�...

Maybe you don't understand.

The mini window in Expose is a different size than the mouse-over highlight box. That's a bug.

dreamBweaver · Oct 6, 2003, 07:25 PM

Originally posted by lookmark:
Those options have always been in Finder Preferences.

That's how I originally set it up...oops! Thanks!

pvb · Oct 6, 2003, 07:38 PM

Just where do you download the beta copy of Panther (7B85) anyway?

BurpetheadX · Oct 6, 2003, 07:44 PM

Originally posted by pvb:
Just where do you download the beta copy of Panther (7B85) anyway?

Can't Tell

Person Man · Oct 6, 2003, 07:58 PM

Originally posted by pvb:
Just where do you download the beta copy of Panther (7B85) anyway?

MacNN Terms of Service prohibits you from giving out information that blatantly promotes piracy.

besson3c · Oct 6, 2003, 08:08 PM

Originally posted by pvb:
Just where do you download the beta copy of Panther (7B85) anyway?

here

gorickey · Oct 6, 2003, 08:17 PM

Originally posted by bracken:
Still pissed from that Lounge argument 6 months ago? Good grief, what do you do, keep an enemies list under your box of tissues.

Maybe you don't understand.

The mini window in Expose is a different size than the mouse-over highlight box. That's a bug.

bracken:

Whoa man, sorry if I insulted you...didn't mean anything by it. I not only do NOT remember anything from the Lounge 6 months ago; however, I do know I didn't understand the bug you mentioned is all....simmer....

Spheric Harlot · Oct 6, 2003, 08:21 PM

Originally posted by Link:
It also makes your sex life better and makes you look younger too!!!

You selling yours, since neither of those applies to you?

-s*

Groovy · Oct 7, 2003, 02:28 AM

Originally posted by Hash:

I wanna hear ANY proof that 85 is GM, plain and simple.

Think of the children

Groovy · Oct 7, 2003, 02:30 AM

Originally posted by noxon:
Solution to eject key problem? Easy; get rid of USB Overdrive.

I have USB overdrive and the eject key works fine.

Groovy · Oct 7, 2003, 02:32 AM

Originally posted by piracy:
7B85 is GM because work is complete on the intial release of Mac OS X 10.3. Build 7B85 has been declared golden master. That is a fact. (Not being able to prove something does not change the fact, e.g., the earth being round.)

The Earth is NOT round. Actually it is shaped like an Apple.

alphasubzero949 · Oct 7, 2003, 04:46 AM

Originally posted by besson3c:
here

Old, but still teh funney�

diamondsw · Oct 7, 2003, 10:24 AM

Originally posted by pvb:
Just where do you download the beta copy of Panther (7B85) anyway?

*smack*

Diggory Laycock · Oct 7, 2003, 05:14 PM

Has anyone else been seeing this bug?

Anand · Oct 7, 2003, 05:17 PM

Originally posted by Diggory Laycock:
Has anyone else been seeing this bug?

Yes. Bad install. Re-install or create another user. Both work.

Disgruntled Head of C-3PO · Oct 7, 2003, 05:23 PM

Originally posted by Zimphire:
What does me stealing 10.3 dev builds have anything to do with this thread?

Much more to do with anything gay wouldn't you say?

Diggory Laycock · Oct 7, 2003, 06:35 PM

Another thing I noticed is that the Finder doesn't seem to handle transparency in GIFs when they are used as background images for directories:

<the black should be white (as it was under Jaguar)>

- - e r i k - - · Oct 8, 2003, 05:08 AM

Originally posted by Diggory Laycock:
Another thing I noticed is that the Finder doesn't seem to handle transparency in GIFs when they are used as background images for directories:

<the black should be white (as it was under Jaguar)>

Why didn't you just use a PNG?

shortcipher · Oct 8, 2003, 05:11 AM

Originally posted by Spliff:

Finally, why does my Firewire HD have an eject symbol next to it in the Sidebar? [/B]

Because you can disconnect a Firewire hard drive from your computer without switching the computer off, but first you have to "eject" it to prevent the finder from freaking out when you pull the cable out, just like an iPod.

dillerX · Oct 8, 2003, 05:11 AM

Originally posted by - - e r i k - -:
Why didn't you just use a PNG?

That would be too easy.

DUH!

Diggory Laycock · Oct 8, 2003, 05:23 AM

Originally posted by - - e r i k - -:
Why didn't you just use a PNG?

I probably will now - transparent GIFs were accepted in 10.2 - and that's what I used to use (old Web habits.)

Just noting an inconsistent behaviour.

Eug · Oct 8, 2003, 10:05 AM

Is there an auto-pseudo-logout feature a la XP? ie. Is there a feature in Panther than automatically takes you to the login screen after a period of inactivity (leaving every program still running)?

This is one part of fast user switching in XP which I find very useful.

(Sorry if it's already mentioned in this thread, but I didn't want to sift through hundreds of messages.)

diamondsw · Oct 8, 2003, 10:35 AM

Originally posted by Eug:
Is there an auto-pseudo-logout feature a la XP? ie. Is there a feature in Panther than automatically takes you to the login screen after a period of inactivity (leaving every program still running)?

This is one part of fast user switching in XP which I find very useful.

(Sorry if it's already mentioned in this thread, but I didn't want to sift through hundreds of messages.)

Yes.