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Richyfp · Sep 22, 2003, 05:09 PM

Just to let ya know! In Software update...

b3t4 · Sep 22, 2003, 05:11 PM

here are the improvements

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25524

beta

gorickey · Sep 22, 2003, 05:12 PM

Installing....

Eug · Sep 22, 2003, 05:14 PM

Originally posted by b3t4:
here are the improvements

http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=25524

beta

Linky no worky, but here is the info:

The 10.2.8 Update delivers enhanced functionality and improved reliability for the following applications, services and technologies: Audio, Bluetooth, Classic compatibility, Finder, Graphics, LDAP, Power Management, Safari, and FireWire and USB device compatibility.

The update also provides updated security services and includes the latest Security Updates.

I'll let you guys be the guinea pigs before I install it.

Cipher13 · Sep 22, 2003, 05:14 PM

Installing on the iBook now... anyone know if this fixes the recent SSH vulnerability?

poison · Sep 22, 2003, 05:17 PM

What about 10.2.7 ? I just did a software update and there wasnt anything but Java.

poison

gorickey · Sep 22, 2003, 05:19 PM

Glad to see they did NOT include Safari 1.1 in this update.....

Arrgghhhh....

kcmac · Sep 22, 2003, 05:24 PM

gorickey.

Done installing? I am getting ready to do it. All well?

Rumor Addict · Sep 22, 2003, 05:27 PM

I installed it and now my dog is missing.

kcmac · Sep 22, 2003, 05:29 PM

Dang dog....

CheesePuff · Sep 22, 2003, 05:30 PM

Says it has lots of Safari enhancements but its still version 1.0. Probably changes to WebKit.

Cipher13 · Sep 22, 2003, 05:31 PM

Originally posted by poison:
What about 10.2.7 ? I just did a software update and there wasnt anything but Java.

poison

On a G5? There isn't a G5 optimised version of 10.2.8, as far as I've heard.

Originally posted by kcmac:
gorickey.

Done installing? I am getting ready to do it. All well?

All good here. Running on the iBook and G4 fine.

Macfreak7 · Sep 22, 2003, 05:33 PM

what the crap, doesn't show up in my SU..
oh never mind, i'm .1 up already.

Silky Voice of The Gorn · Sep 22, 2003, 05:39 PM

so anticlimactic since I been running P on my Cube fulltime

kcmac · Sep 22, 2003, 05:55 PM

That was a long restart after install. Does the system run an fsck or repair permissions? I don't recall it usually taking so long.

Version 6R65. All seems well.

Terri · Sep 22, 2003, 06:06 PM

I run with two monitors and it reset it back to default with the menu bar back on my laptop and the screens back to default.

My hard drive icon seems a lighter shade of gray or something.

Footy · Sep 22, 2003, 06:09 PM

Noticed that too but the following restart seemed normal as always.

-Footy

Originally posted by kcmac:
That was a long restart after install. Does the system run an fsck or repair permissions? I don't recall it usually taking so long.

Version 6R65. All seems well.

gatorparrots · Sep 22, 2003, 06:11 PM

Sadly, it doesn't look like the newer SSH made it into the release:

Code:
ssh -V
OpenSSH_3.4p1+CAN-2003-0693, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090609f

delete · Sep 22, 2003, 06:11 PM

I repaired permissions after the update and was amazed at all the corrections ( I otherwise repaired 2 days ago).

kcmac · Sep 22, 2003, 06:14 PM

I always restart and repair permissions before and after an OS update. It is amazing sometimes how big that list is...

voodoo · Sep 22, 2003, 06:14 PM

installing..

the Bluetooth fixes and the iTunes USB fix are most welcome!

CheesePuff · Sep 22, 2003, 06:15 PM

Boo, it now reports my G4 upgrade as 1.467 GHz instead of 1.5 GHz in the About This Mac window.

gorickey · Sep 22, 2003, 06:19 PM

Originally posted by CheesePuff:
Says it has lots of Safari enhancements but its still version 1.0. Probably changes to WebKit.

Safari v85.5 is included....yeah, a measly .5 added on....

voodoo · Sep 22, 2003, 06:21 PM

Originally posted by delete:
I repaired permissions after the update and was amazed at all the corrections ( I otherwise repaired 2 days ago).

Still they mention "The update also provides updated security services and includes the latest Security Updates." in the SU panel.

geekwagon · Sep 22, 2003, 06:30 PM

Originally posted by gatorparrots:
Sadly, it doesn't look like the newer SSH made it into the release:

Code:
ssh -V OpenSSH_3.4p1+CAN-2003-0693, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090609f

The CAN-2003-0693 is referencing the bugfix for the buffer handling bug in SSH. So, they backported the fix to the old version. This is SOP for most Unix vendors. In other words, ssh is as safe as it ever was again.

Toyin · Sep 22, 2003, 06:30 PM

These are some of the enhancements that are a part of the Mac OS X 10.2.8 Update:

Windows on external displays connected to some PowerBook computers are drawn better.
The Bluetooth menu bar item works better when a Bluetooth USB adapter is disconnected and reconnected.
Addresses a situation in which an external FireWire storage device would not become available (mount) and this message would appear: "A disk attempting to mount as 'unknown' has failed. Please use Disk Utility to check the disk."
Addresses an issue in which some Bluetooth devices may not be available after the computer wakes from sleep.
Addresses an issue in which some Bluetooth keyboards may show a delayed response when you press a key after the computer wakes from sleep.
Addresses an issue in which some iBook computers could make a clicking sound when using Mac OS X 10.2.5 or 10.2.6.
Reduces a potential delay when removing some devices from the Bluetooth pairing list.
Addresses a potential issue in which an audio application can unexpectedly quit when a USB- or FireWire-based audio device is disconnected.
Bluetooth preferences correctly displays the Bluetooth menu bar item's status if the item was enabled elsewhere.
Includes several enhancements for Safari.
Includes support for USB 2.0 devices, including PCI and PC cards for computers that do not include USB 2.0 hardware.

The USB 2.0 support is nice. Too bad I don't have a USB 2.0 PCI card or any USB 2 peripherals.

Developer · Sep 22, 2003, 06:32 PM

They combined keyboard and mouse control panels.

gorickey · Sep 22, 2003, 06:32 PM

A few other short observations....

1.) The "Keyboard" and "Mouse" System Pref panes have merged into one single "Keyboard & Mouse" pane with Bluetooth information....

2.) This update kills any sort of TransparentDock people may have...note: Have NOT tried Clear Dock from Unsanity yet...

3.) The latest Lacie 52x32x52 CD/RW is fully supported now for burning...

Kenneth · Sep 22, 2003, 06:33 PM

Originally posted by gatorparrots:
Sadly, it doesn't look like the newer SSH made it into the release:

Code:
ssh -V OpenSSH_3.4p1+CAN-2003-0693, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090609f

The one on the 10.2.6

Code:
[Jaguar:~] % ssh -V
OpenSSH_3.4p1, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL 0x0090609f

Looks like it added "CAN-2003-0693" string after the update.

RooneyX · Sep 22, 2003, 06:36 PM

The only thing I noticed it fixed is this Safari text anti-aliasing bug. Now I don't have to increase the size of the font when I visit this forum and other sites.

fisherKing · Sep 22, 2003, 06:57 PM

yay! yet another update...
(which i have of course installed immediately...

)

transparent dock, btw, just has to be "re-applied".

and a sound fix? i dunno yet, but RIGHT AFTER the install, the slider was further to the right then ever!

guess we will all watch & see what we observe.

anyway
keeping my fingers crossed...

gorickey · Sep 22, 2003, 07:08 PM

Originally posted by fisherKing:
transparent dock, btw, just has to be "re-applied".

Cool, I didn't try because I read where somebody else did and it totally hosed the dock....had to re-install from the backup copy made...

On a sidenote, ClearDock 1.2.4 from Unsanity does work as well....

Kissargi · Sep 22, 2003, 07:10 PM

hmmm, you can only seem to get this update from the software update panel so far? I get cut off every 2 hours (still on dial up) so i cant download 40 megs in one go, i need a to be able to download it in speed download from a html addy. Hope they update the apple site soon....

swiz · Sep 22, 2003, 07:23 PM

Happy to see that Prefling still works

voodoo · Sep 22, 2003, 07:27 PM

Well now that I've installed 10.2.8 my first impression is: running smooth and looking good.

RooneyX · Sep 22, 2003, 07:27 PM

Does clicking on widgets feel a little bit stickier for anyone else but me? Maybe it was just the reboot. I've had OSX running for so long without a shut down.

ae77 · Sep 22, 2003, 07:28 PM

yay update.

pretty uneventful here though.

Earth Mk. II · Sep 22, 2003, 07:45 PM

From Apple's security-announce mailing list:

Mac OS X 10.2.8 is now available. It contains fixes for recent
vulnerabilities in:

OpenSSH: Mac OS X 10.2.8 contains the patches to address CVE
CAN-2003-0693, CAN-2003-0695, and CAN-2003-0682. On Mac OS X
versions prior to 10.2.8, the vulnerability is limited to a denial
of service from the possibility of causing sshd to crash. Each
login session has its own sshd, so established connections are
preserved up to the point where system resources are exhausted by
an attack.

To deliver the update in a rapid and reliable manner, only the
patches for CVE IDs listed above were applied, and not the entire
set of patches for OpenSSH 3.7.1. Thus, the OpenSSH version in
Mac OS X 10.2.8, as obtained via the "ssh -V" command, is:
OpenSSH_3.4p1+CAN-2003-0693, SSH protocols 1.5/2.0, OpenSSL
0x0090609f

Sendmail: Addresses CVE CAN-2003-0694 and CAN-2003-0681 to fix a
buffer overflow in address parsing, as well as a potential buffer
overflow in ruleset parsing.

fb_realpath(): Fixes CAN-2003-0466 which is an off-by-one error in
the fb_realpath() function that may allow attackers to execute
arbitrary code.

arplookup(): Fixes CAN-2003-0804. The arplookup() function caches
ARP requests for routes on a local link. On a local subnet only,
it is possible for an attacker to send a sufficient number of
spoofed ARP requests which will exhaust kernel memory, leading to
a denial of service.

Geobunny · Sep 22, 2003, 07:45 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:
Safari v85.5 is included....yeah, a measly .5 added on....

...and here we all are, talking about a "measly 0.0.2 added on..."!

Sorry, couldn't resist!

xi_hyperon · Sep 22, 2003, 07:53 PM

In the trackpad panel, there is an option, "Ignore accidental trackpad input". Is this new or did I just not notice it before?

Earth Mk. II · Sep 22, 2003, 07:57 PM

Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
In the trackpad panel, there is an option, "Ignore accidental trackpad input". Is this new or did I just not notice it before?

iirc, it used to say something to the effect of "ignore trackpad input while typing"

I think it's the same thing. donno why they changed it.

NYCFarmboy · Sep 22, 2003, 08:09 PM

ok..tell me this will allow me to use USB2 devices with my 1.42 dual?

I always understood the guts where in my 1.42 dual for USB2 and this update will allow me to use USB2 devices?

ratlater · Sep 22, 2003, 08:15 PM

Originally posted by Earth Mk. II:
iirc, it used to say something to the effect of "ignore trackpad input while typing"

I think it's the same thing. donno why they changed it.

No, that's new as of 10.2.7 I think. It's different than the while typing pref.

-matt

Earth Mk. II · Sep 22, 2003, 08:20 PM

Originally posted by ratlater:
No, that's new as of 10.2.7 I think. It's different than the while typing pref.

-matt

Was it? 10.2.7 was never released to the public, unless it came pre-installed on your machine. So I really don't know.

And, if it's different then the while typing pref, where'd that one go?

GeoMac · Sep 22, 2003, 08:25 PM

i may be imaging it, but safari seems a little slower now...and I do not like the new dock

Richyfp · Sep 22, 2003, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by gorickey:
A few other short observations....

1.) The "Keyboard" and "Mouse" System Pref panes have merged into one single "Keyboard & Mouse" pane with Bluetooth information....
<snip>

Is it just me who thinks that Bluetooth information should not be shown if Bluetooth hardware is not present?!! I'm gonna send some feedback on that...

Kestral · Sep 22, 2003, 08:29 PM

Anyone know where the link to the 10.2.x to 10.2.6 combo updater is? There's a tech document on Apple's site but no link to download.

King Bob On The Cob · Sep 22, 2003, 08:30 PM

THEY KILLED MINIMIZE IN PLACE! NO!!!!!

fisherKing · Sep 22, 2003, 08:36 PM

woah!
minimizing to the dock is A LOT faster on my powerbook pismo... (altho maximing is not as fast)

try it!

what other treats are in store??

gorickey · Sep 22, 2003, 08:54 PM

Originally posted by King Bob On The Cob:
THEY KILLED MINIMIZE IN PLACE! NO!!!!!

Not with WindowShade X 3.0.1 from Unsanity they didn't....it rocks!