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MacinTommy · Nov 8, 2012, 06:47 AM

Saw it last night. Loved it.

I keep playing parts over in my head... I'll probably go see it again. A lot nods to Bonds of the past. Felt nostalgic.

Craig was great per usual, but Javier Bardem was FANTASTIC as the villain!! I didn't read anything about the plot so there were some interesting surprises. As one review put it "perfect mixture of plot and action." If you are a Bond fan you will appreciate it and if you've never seen a Bond it will still be a great first one -albeit there are a few quips and lines about the past- but other than that the storyline is new.

osiris · Nov 8, 2012, 07:15 AM

I will see it this weekend. Can't wait!

mattyb · Nov 8, 2012, 11:54 PM

Yes, excellent film. Sam Mendes really is a master.

Doc HM · Nov 9, 2012, 05:20 AM

Loved it. Bardem was excellent. Brilliant scene between him and Bond on the island.

Great to see just how much of the internet is sticking to the first rule of skyfall

OAW · Nov 12, 2012, 08:24 AM

Saw it this weekend. Best word to describe it? EXCELLENT!

OAW

The Final Dakar · Nov 12, 2012, 08:25 AM

Oh boy. Didn't like it. Saw it with four other friends (not Bond fans). They didn't like it.

Ask follow-up questions at your own peril.

besson3c · Nov 12, 2012, 09:27 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Oh boy. Didn't like it. Saw it with four other friends (not Bond fans). They didn't like it.
Ask follow-up questions at your own peril.

Were you under the influence of any chemical substance(s) at the time, and are you right now? Was any sex attempted? Do you like Fruit Loops?

mattyb · Nov 12, 2012, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Oh boy. Didn't like it. Saw it with four other friends (not Bond fans). They didn't like it.
Ask follow-up questions at your own peril.

Not enough gadgets? Car chases? Bond girls?

SSharon · Nov 12, 2012, 06:38 PM

Dakar, I didn't think it was that amazing either.

Don't get me wrong, it was a good movie, but definitely not a 5/5. The computer jargon was stupid and the explosions just a little too over the top.

Also, the constant Sony Viao product placement got on my nerves.

MacinTommy · Nov 13, 2012, 04:25 AM

Originally Posted by SSharon

Dakar, I didn't think it was that amazing either.
Don't get me wrong, it was a good movie, but definitely not a 5/5. The computer jargon was stupid and the explosions just a little too over the top.
Also, the constant Sony Viao product placement got on my nerves.

People keep talking about product placement but I really didn't notice it... It couldn't be any worse than Tomorrow Never Dies.

The Final Dakar · Nov 13, 2012, 05:08 AM

Originally Posted by mattyb

Not enough gadgets? Car chases? Bond girls?

I like gadgets but they weren't that necessary. So, no issues with those three items.

Originally Posted by MacinTommy

People keep talking about product placement but I really didn't notice it... It couldn't be any worse than Tomorrow Never Dies.

Ditto.

osiris · Nov 13, 2012, 05:09 AM

I didn't quite make it to the theater this weekend... maybe next weekend. All you haters will have to wait to suffer my wrath.

ort888 · Nov 13, 2012, 06:35 AM

I'm seeing a lot of people who don't seem to like it that much.

osiris · Nov 14, 2012, 05:15 AM

Saw it, liked it. This was a serious film about a serious issue for serious people to seriously take serious.

I can certainly see why certain demographics would hate this film, particularly if you like Bonds other than Connery, or if you are simply bored with the localized subject matter.

This film felt like a reboot of sorts, which I hope follows through with darker, more serious future 007 stories.

The Final Dakar · Nov 14, 2012, 06:05 AM

Originally Posted by osiris

This film felt like a reboot of sorts, which I hope follows through with darker, more serious future 007 stories.

Wasn't Casino Royale a reboot of sorts that went darker? So you expect the next movie to be darkerer?

(The last 5 minutes was painfully predictable)

osiris · Nov 14, 2012, 06:15 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Wasn't Casino Royale a reboot of sorts that went darker? So you expect the next movie to be darkerer?
(The last 5 minutes was painfully predictable)

Good point on Casino Royale - but I think that film was a mini-reboot and perhaps the beginning of the darker Bond, not quite a reboot I believe.

Skyfall, I feel, puts it down clearly and says we're bringing this thing full circle and it's going to be dark from here on out.

design219 · Nov 15, 2012, 06:50 AM

I enjoyed it, but not as much as I thought I would. I made the mistake of listening to too many reviews that were glowing, so my expectations were a bit high. But, I'll watch it again. Craig is, to me, the best Bond.

olePigeon · Nov 15, 2012, 08:54 AM

Apparently cyanide causes horrible computer graphics.

osiris · Nov 15, 2012, 09:25 AM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

Apparently cyanide causes horrible computer graphics.

I did notice an issue when a big something did something which would normally cause something inside that something to not work, but for some reason (an error) it continued to work.

When the underground/subway crashes through the gaping hole, obviously off its tracks, it miraculously maintains full power inside the cars during the entire crash sequence. Where is the power coming from? Emergency battery backup would only support a fraction of the interior lighting, at best.

The Final Dakar · Nov 15, 2012, 09:34 AM

wat

osiris · Nov 15, 2012, 09:56 AM

I had to figure out the spoiler alert function... does it make sense now?

Doc HM · Nov 15, 2012, 12:12 PM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Wasn't Casino Royale a reboot of sorts that went darker? So you expect the next movie to be darkerer?
(The last 5 minutes was painfully predictable)

Casino Royale was indeed a reboot. They even showed Bond getting his 00 license with his first two kills. QoS followed directly on from Casino, and yet by Skyfall we have both M and Bond claiming that they've been in the business too long. How did that timeline make sense?

The Final Dakar · Nov 15, 2012, 12:22 PM

Originally Posted by Doc HM

Casino Royale was indeed a reboot. They even showed Bond getting his 00 license with his first two kills. QoS followed directly on from Casino, and yet by Skyfall we have both M and Bond claiming that they've been in the business too long. How did that timeline make sense?

I don't worry too much about continuity in the universe. Bond is timeless yet a cold war relic at the same time. They acknowledge the Ms have changed but not Moneypenny.

mattyb · Nov 15, 2012, 01:27 PM

You people analyze things too much, can't you just let yourselves be entertained?

sek929 · Nov 15, 2012, 01:43 PM

Originally Posted by mattyb

You people analyze things too much, can't you just let yourselves be entertained?

You must be new here...

The Final Dakar · Nov 15, 2012, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by mattyb

You people analyze things too much, can't you just let yourselves be entertained?

Suspension of disbelief works in different ways for everyone. Particularly when a movie takes itself so seriously.

mattyb · Nov 15, 2012, 01:52 PM

Only Al Gore, Michael Moore or Yann Arthus Bertrand films take themselves that seriously.

The Final Dakar · Nov 15, 2012, 01:57 PM

Originally Posted by mattyb

Only Al Gore, Michael Moore or Yann Arthus Bertrand films take themselves that seriously.

How seriously?

mattyb · Nov 15, 2012, 02:02 PM

You're picking on me. Seriously enough to suspend disbelief.

sek929 · Nov 15, 2012, 02:03 PM

Going by MacNN there hasn't been a single good movie made, ever.

mattyb · Nov 15, 2012, 02:10 PM

True. So true.

The Final Dakar · Nov 16, 2012, 06:27 AM

Originally Posted by sek929

Going by MacNN there hasn't been a single good movie made, ever.

If you cherry pick who to listen to in each thread, yeah. You're telling me that there aren't movies where the general consensus is positive on here?

Also, there's a difference between posting your opinion, and thinking it's a fact. It's the latter reviews that are obnoxious.

The Final Dakar · Nov 16, 2012, 06:30 AM

Originally Posted by mattyb

You people analyze things too much, can't you just let yourselves be entertained?

For the record, since I'm now being excoriated for being negative or something, I've seen four movies in theaters in the past month or two and this was the only one I didn't enjoy. I suppose my crime here isn't not liking it though, it's not conforming to popular opinion.

MacinTommy · Nov 16, 2012, 06:36 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

For the record, since I'm now being excoriated for being negative or something, I've seen four movies in theaters in the past month or two and this was the only one I didn't enjoy. I suppose my crime here isn't not liking it though, it's not conforming to popular opinion.

But if you are from/live in the south then it really doesn't matter because you are an ignorant retard. If not, you must own an Audi, Porsche and a sweet boat for your ~~opinion~~ facts to matter.

ShortcutToMoncton · Nov 16, 2012, 07:55 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

I suppose my crime here isn't not liking it though, it's not conforming to popular opinion.

The Emo Dakar

The Final Dakar · Nov 16, 2012, 08:01 AM

Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton

The Emo Dakar

As a lawyer you consider going against popular opinion an unnecessary risk.

(Let's tie all the threads together!)

ShortcutToMoncton · Nov 16, 2012, 08:28 AM

Me? The guy who vehemently argues that Peter Jackson and James Cameron are absolutely terrible, terrible directors?

The Final Dakar · Nov 16, 2012, 08:40 AM

Jesus, I thought it was a transparent joke.

olePigeon · Nov 16, 2012, 08:46 AM

I must've cut myself years ago, because I'm one of the few people that didn't like the Lord of the Rings movies.

ShortcutToMoncton · Nov 16, 2012, 08:47 AM

14 thousand posts will tend to throw off your perception, I suppose....

boom...out of nowhere

ShortcutToMoncton · Nov 16, 2012, 08:48 AM

I see your 14k and raise you an additional 5k...ho ho ho

The Final Dakar · Nov 16, 2012, 08:49 AM

Originally Posted by olePigeon

didn't like

Master of understatement.

osiris · Nov 16, 2012, 09:02 AM

Originally Posted by ShortcutToMoncton

14 thousand posts will tend to throw off your perception, I suppose....
boom...out of nowhere

Been posting for 12 years, yet The Final Dakar pulls 14k in 3? Maybe he's a robot or some kind of alien life form.

ShortcutToMoncton · Nov 16, 2012, 09:44 AM

I'd also like to point out that he didn't like Skyfall.

osiris · Nov 16, 2012, 09:55 AM

Yes, this is all starting to add up...

MacinTommy · Nov 16, 2012, 10:20 AM

And how many Dakars have there been before the "Final"? And what was there post counts?

The Final Dakar · Nov 16, 2012, 10:26 AM

Originally Posted by MacinTommy

And how many Dakars have there been before the "Final"? And what was there post counts?

Four, 5,000 each.

osiris · Nov 17, 2012, 02:27 AM

Roger Moore had some nice things to say about Daniel Craig:

To paraphrase: "To me, he looks like a killer. He looks as though he knows what he’s doing. I look as though I might cheat at backgammon"

It would be funny if Sean Connery came out with a scathing counter-commentary... anyhoo, the link to NY Daily news article:

http://www.nydailynews.com/entertain...icle-1.1202922

mattyb · Nov 17, 2012, 03:02 AM

Originally Posted by The Final Dakar

Four, 5,000 each.

So, this was all planned? Very devious.

ShortcutToMoncton · Nov 18, 2012, 10:23 AM

Well, saw it last night. Good, but not great. And I'm not sure why, but there just weren't really any "oh, this feels cool" moments, like there were with Casino Royale. Despite the cheesiness of the bleeding-eye villain, that movie remains the best Bond movie IMO.

[SPOILER=Warning: Spoiler!]I wish I could describe a little better why I didn't consider it to be great....but I've been struggling on this one. Obviously, the villain...I don't know...simply didn't draw me in. Yes, Bardem played him gleefully over-the-top, but then for most of the movie he was just an angry guy with a gun who apparently was smart with computerz....nothing special there. And let's take the sets for example - lots of exotic locations, but I didn't feel any of them were even used in a way that would make me want to go to those places. Stuff like the deserted island...lots of potential, but it wasn't part of the story at all - simply "this is where the bad guy lives and what he did".[/SPOILER]

I dunno. Perhaps I'm over-rating Casino Royale - so I'm going to watch it again tonight, just to see if it actually has what I remember it having.