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stupendousman
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Oct 25, 2008, 11:30 PM
 
BAM STAFFERS PULL THEIR BOGUS OHIO BALLOTS - New York Post

These are people who knew better, but thought they'd get away with it.

Of course, THEY WERE RIGHT, mostly. Their votes didn't count, but they didn't receive any punishment for trying to cast illegal votes:

Thirteen campaign workers for Barack Obama yesterday yanked their voter registrations and ballots in Ohio after being warned by a prosecutor that temporary residents can't vote in the battleground state.

A dozen staffers - including Obama Ohio spokeswoman Olivia Alair and James Cadogan, who recently joined Team Obama - signed a form letter asking the Franklin County elections board to pull their names from the rolls.
So, instead of charging them with vote fraud, they just let them essentially retract their votes after they were caught with no punishment.

THAT is why there is rampant vote fraud. No real ramifications when campaign workers get caught with their hands in the cookie jar by officials who are part of their same party. How many non-campaign officials did they help do the same thing?
     
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Oct 26, 2008, 01:42 AM
 
Come on Stupendousman taking a quote from the New York Post, who then quotes Fox News in their story is like getting talking points directly from the McCain campaign.

Wait both the New York Post and Fox news are pushing talking points from the McCain campaign; what am I saying.

Next thing you know they will be saying that the Obama supporters carved B's into their faces as they pulled their voter registrations.

Come on your better than to quote from these Right Wing Talking Points factories.

What's next? That you'll say that Fox News, Hannity, Drudge, Beck, O'Rilley and the New York Post are serious un-biased reporters/journalists.
The Religious Right is neither.
     
stupendousman  (op)
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Oct 26, 2008, 08:30 AM
 
Originally Posted by kobi View Post
Come on Stupendousman taking a quote from the New York Post, who then quotes Fox News in their story is like getting talking points directly from the McCain campaign.
Attacking the messenger logical fallacy: CHECK.

Good thing to hear that due to similar circumstances, you won't be using the New York Times, Washington Post or most of the other network news sources as citations.
     
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Oct 26, 2008, 10:22 AM
 
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Oct 26, 2008, 10:43 AM
 
Originally Posted by stupendousman View Post
Attacking the messenger logical fallacy: CHECK.
ummm ... isn't the whole "liberal media" argument just "attacking the messenger"?
     
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Oct 26, 2008, 04:35 PM
 
Originally Posted by Wiskedjak View Post
ummm ... isn't the whole "liberal media" argument just "attacking the messenger"?
It depends on what the argument is.

If a member of the liberal media shows facts to support a claim, and you don't dispute the facts but just attack the source because they are biased, then your answer is yes.

If you are pointing out that the media dishonestly reports things in a biased fashion and that helps out those that share their political views in order to show a reason why they generally can't be trusted to report the facts and are instead engaging in propaganda, then your answer is no.

One you are replacing refutation with attack. The other you are explaining bias by showing a lack of balance.
     
   
 
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