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Gonna put a floyd on the Lespaul?
     
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Aug 7, 2006, 10:07 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kevin
Gonna put a floyd on the Lespaul?
I believe his idea is to simply chop it in half with an angle grinder the moment the transaction is complete. He's not a big fan of Gibsons. The lore is strong with that one.

(He's been on about it for years but I don't think he's actually going to go through with it. It's probably just some shred-fu koan or something.)
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Aug 7, 2006, 10:59 PM
 
Meh. I've been playing for 23 some-odd years, and a guitar is a tool. It's an instrument. If you're a good layer, you can make music on any kind of guitar — and if you have the need for various tones. sounds, nuances, etc., the purist will choose multiple guitars in his toolbox over a processor.

Metal? Les Paul.
Rock? Strat.
Acoustic? K-14c.
Mellow? T5.
Folk/Country? Tele.
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Aug 7, 2006, 11:59 PM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead
a guitar is a tool
Heretic!

Originally Posted by RAILhead
If you're a good player, you can make music on any kind of guitar
If you're a really good player, you will prefer a particular feel to your instrument.

Like I said, he's the local shred-fu master, not the local twang banger.
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Aug 8, 2006, 06:36 AM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead
Metal? Les Paul.
Rock? Strat.
Acoustic? K-14c.
Mellow? T5.
Folk/Country? Tele.
I would put the LP for Rock as well. Metal and the like is being covered by the pointy guitar superstrats.
     
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Aug 8, 2006, 07:09 AM
 
That was a list of my guitars and what I use them for.
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Aug 8, 2006, 07:14 AM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy
Heretic!



If you're a really good player, you will prefer a particular feel to your instrument.
...which is pretty much what I said.
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Aug 8, 2006, 07:14 AM
 
Very confusing list, since definitions are not absolute.

Strat for rock? You got SSS in it or have you dropped a PAF in the bridge? Does your definition of "rock" include the likes of the Eagles or Hootie?
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Aug 8, 2006, 07:20 AM
 
Originally Posted by RAILhead
...which is pretty much what I said.
No. Although easy to see where the confusion lies.

You said "multiple guitars for multiple tones". I said "one guitar for one feel" - not meaning "one tele for a country feel and one LP for a rock feel".

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BTW, this is the last time I attempt late-night guitar humour. Obviously you tele-lovers are lost to the dark side and unable to appreciate the fine art of shred-fu.
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Aug 8, 2006, 07:43 AM
 
Eagles = Rock = Strat.

Norma Jean = Metal = Les Paul

Audioslave = Rock = LP or Strat

Rilo Kiley = Alt-Folk Rock = Tele
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Aug 8, 2006, 07:44 AM
 
As for feel, a good player also selects his/her guitar for that — that's a no brainer. It also why you modify your guitar if necessary (new neck, getting a neck reshaped, refretted, etc.).
"Everything's so clear to me now: I'm the keeper of the cheese and you're the lemon merchant. Get it? And he knows it.
That's why he's gonna kill us. So we got to beat it. Yeah. Before he let's loose the marmosets on us."
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Aug 8, 2006, 08:20 AM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy
Obviously you tele-lovers are lost to the dark side and unable to appreciate the fine art of shred-fu.
Hey I like the tele and you saw what guitar I just bought
     
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Aug 13, 2006, 05:49 PM
 
Ok after a week of playing, tuning, adjusting and cleaning this guitar I can finally say I am happy with it.

The ONLY thing I don't like are the pickups. The bridge I heard was basically a Dimarzio super distortion. Which I've never liked (They don't clean up with volume knob adjustments) and it's not that "sweet" sounding.

Probably gonna put a Tone Zone in the bridge and a Air Norton in the neck.
     
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Aug 13, 2006, 07:41 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kevin
The ONLY thing I don't like are the pickups. The bridge I heard was basically a Dimarzio super distortion. Which I've never liked (They don't clean up with volume knob adjustments) and it's not that "sweet" sounding.

Probably gonna put a Tone Zone in the bridge and a Air Norton in the neck.
You won't be able to clean up much with the TZ in the bridge. Go with something lower-powered. Like a Screamin' Demon (bridge) and PAF/'59 (neck) or something. Less power, more tone.
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Aug 13, 2006, 09:45 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy
Meh. You guys must have missed the memo about Telecasters. Only three males on the planet are legitimately allowed to play them: The Boss and Status Quo. That's it.

Because they're a girl's guitar. They're for girls, I tell ya. Can't perform shred-fu on a Tele. Girls can't perform shred-fu. Therefore, they're a girls' guitar.


(heh, just some World of Doof™ folk lore to brighten your evening. Anything other than a Strat or superStrat is open for abuse )

I should mention that Prince plays a Tele copy. As Kevin will attest, Prince shreds like no one else. Seriously.

As for me, I have a 1971 Les Paul Deluxe and a 68 LP Professional that is currently with Les' personal guitar tech.

The rest of the electrics are ones I've made myself. But that was ages ago, I've grown tried of making necks.
     
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Aug 13, 2006, 09:56 PM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy
You won't be able to clean up much with the TZ in the bridge. Go with something lower-powered. Like a Screamin' Demon (bridge) and PAF/'59 (neck) or something. Less power, more tone.
I don't want a pristine clean. Just something a bit more bluesy. The Super Distortion doesn't clean up at all.

The TZ really isn't THAT hot.

And yes, Prince can play.

His "tele" Is a Hohner with EMG pickups.
     
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Aug 13, 2006, 10:10 PM
 
Originally Posted by Kevin
I don't want a pristine clean. Just something a bit more bluesy. The Super Distortion doesn't clean up at all.
Arh. Fair enough.

Originally Posted by Kevin
The TZ really isn't THAT hot.
I dunno. It seems a bit fizzy for my tastes. I kind of prefer "only-just-above-vintage" outputs.

Originally Posted by Kevin
And yes, Prince can play.
Play, but not shred.

Originally Posted by Kevin
His "tele" Is a Hohner with EMG pickups.
Yeah, knew it was a Hohner. Didn't know about the EMGs.

And anyways. It's one of the best-kept secrets that Prince is actually a girl. I've seen "Under The Cherry Moon" so you can't convince me otherwise.
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Aug 14, 2006, 02:22 AM
 
Prince's guitar gently shreds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6a7eVJNNBs
     
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Aug 14, 2006, 07:20 AM
 
Originally Posted by Doofy
Play, but not shred.
No, he can do that too.
     
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Aug 14, 2006, 07:23 AM
 
Originally Posted by MOTHERWELL
Prince's guitar gently shreds:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O6a7eVJNNBs
That wont impress doofy. Bad example of Prince "shredding"
     
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Originally Posted by Kevin
That wont impress doofy.
Correct.

Originally Posted by Kevin
Meh. Satch. Thieving git.

(fact: A lick from a Doofy track sent out in a demo and played by Doof and Yngwie Van Vai, circa 1993, somehow found its way onto a Satch release, circa 2002. Identical notes, identical timing, identical feel, same underlying rhythm, similar track title. 2:07+ on "Mind Storm" off "Strange Beautiful Music" if you're interested. We *know* that the demo was given to a friend of Satch's. We figure the only reason he didn't rip off the rest of the track was 'coz he couldn't actually play it. ).

Anyways, back to shred-fu. The shred is strong with this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2ukQ...elated&search=
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Aug 14, 2006, 09:10 AM
 
Don't like shred, me.

     
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Originally Posted by Doofy

Meh. Satch. Thieving git.

(fact: A lick from a Doofy track sent out in a demo and played by Doof and Yngwie Van Vai, circa 1993, somehow found its way onto a Satch release, circa 2002. Identical notes, identical timing, identical feel, same underlying rhythm, similar track title. 2:07+ on "Mind Storm" off "Strange Beautiful Music" if you're interested. We *know* that the demo was given to a friend of Satch's. We figure the only reason he didn't rip off the rest of the track was 'coz he couldn't actually play it. ).
Sure sure.
Anyways, back to shred-fu. The shred is strong with this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2ukQ...elated&search=
That sounds more like scale excercises than anything. I never was into the whole tapping thing either.
     
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Sure sure.
Straight up.
And YVV has had 13 years of extra practice since then.

I'll see if I can't get some clips of his new work off him.
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Aug 14, 2006, 09:49 AM
 
That "shred" crap doesn't impress me. It sounds like the junk I was listening to back in the 80s. Playing notes fast doesn't give me a woody, sorry.
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I agree Rail. That is why I like Joe. He does more than just play fast.

I do think playing fast has it's place. But doing it CONSTANTLY is lame.
     
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There's a reason it's called "shred-fu".

Like "kung-fu", continued escalation into the upper realms of technical ability allows the regular techniques to be executed more easily - they become second nature, able to be performed without effort.
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Yes but there is a difference between being ABLE to, and over-doing it IMHO.
     
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Update:

I've changed it a bit, put in new pickups and shine it up.







I think it looks better with the Dimarzios, and cleaned up.
     
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after a six year layoff i finally got a guitar again earlier this year:


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teknopimp:
is that a batman guitar?
     
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Looks to be a Gibson SG. First came out in the early 60s.
     
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Originally Posted by DeathMan
Thats because Tele's rock! My next guitar will be a tele.

Railhead: Nice matching tele/strat/t5
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Originally Posted by Doofy
Meh. You guys must have missed the memo about Telecasters. Only three males on the planet are legitimately allowed to play them: The Boss and Status Quo. That's it.

Because they're a girl's guitar. They're for girls, I tell ya. Can't perform shred-fu on a Tele. Girls can't perform shred-fu. Therefore, they're a girls' guitar.


(heh, just some World of Doof™ folk lore to brighten your evening. Anything other than a Strat or superStrat is open for abuse )
tosser.. calling a tele a girls guitar? i spit upon the grave of your father's mother's uncle's pet hamster. you've clearly never heard jeff buckley play one?
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Update:

I've changed it a bit, put in new pickups and shine it up.







I think it looks better with the Dimarzios, and cleaned up.
fine piece 'o work kevin. great finish
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I've always liked "coffee table" guitars as they are called.

Wood grains look better to me than sparkle finishes.
     
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Originally Posted by Kevin
Looks to be a Gibson SG. First came out in the early 60s.
i was making a joke Kevin
but thanks for the info.
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Originally Posted by OwlBoy


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that looks like my axe.

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Originally Posted by pyrite
tosser.. calling a tele a girls guitar? i spit upon the grave of your father's mother's uncle's pet hamster. you've clearly never heard jeff buckley play one?
Thanks for bringing Jeff Buckley into this.
     
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Oct 9, 2006, 07:19 PM
 
Well a tele isn't really a "shred" guitar.

Country type music isn't really known as "shredding"

Even though they do play fast.

Though the first two Zepplin albums were mostly all Telecaster.

It wasn't till Zepp II did Page move to the LesPaul.
     
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I'm teaching myself right now. Once I've got my acoustic down pat, I'll be saving up for my first electric, which will beeeee...



Love the blues...
     
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You can play the blues on anything!

But strats are nice.

Just don't put HUGE strings on it, tune down and act like you've came up with a new sound.

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Originally Posted by Kevin
You can play the blues on anything!

But strats are nice.

Just don't put HUGE strings on it, tune down and act like you've came up with a new sound.

<kennywaynesheppard>
You can, of course...but for some reason the blues are synonymous with the Strat in my mind. Especially after seeing this so many times...



Plus, I love the feel of a Strat so much better than most electric guitars. It has a certain smooth "gliding" feel to it - at least it does to me.
     
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Originally Posted by Jawbone54
...I love the feel of a Strat so much better than most electric guitars.
i feel a Fender vs Gibson debate comin.

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Originally Posted by Jawbone54
You can, of course...but for some reason the blues are synonymous with the Strat in my mind. Especially after seeing this so many times...



Plus, I love the feel of a Strat so much better than most electric guitars. It has a certain smooth "gliding" feel to it - at least it does to me.

Heh that was the guy I was talking about people copying off of.

Of course he was just copying off of Hendrix while putting his own spin on it.
     
 
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