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Diggory Laycock
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May 7, 2004, 07:51 AM
 
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/05...s_price_rises/

Repeat after me:

Raising prices will NOT reduce piracy.

You give them a good system, and they're determined to f it up for themselves.
     
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May 7, 2004, 08:01 AM
 
i used to buy a lot of songs from itms. but i'll guess i will start going back to acquisition more after this. You are right, they are so f**king greedy.

I always wonder why artists don't work with digital music service directly and stop going through the record companies. I remember Don Henley's article saying that record companies have killed many non-teenage pop artists these days.
     
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May 7, 2004, 08:49 AM
 
That is all I need to say. They want to stop piracy!? this WON'T stop it one bit only increase it. I wonder if someone can sue the record labels. I mean These old farts who run these labels need to get with the program or need to be ousted. Nice way to stifle success and competition.

I've been good since iTMS came out. it's going to be a lot tougher for me to be this good if they raise prices.


DAMN RECORD LABELS!!!!!!! Like somone said the Artists should just deal directly with the content providers like iTMS or the other ones to get there songs out.
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May 7, 2004, 08:49 AM
 
Didn't read the article. But I'll say this: Record companies, due to your greed and unwillingness to listen to the consumer, I will not purchase any music cds. Ever. Again. And I haven't for years now.
     
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May 7, 2004, 08:53 AM
 
We as consumers should start a grassroots level action to do something about this. Call for a boycott of all music CD purchases. unfortunately that would also impact the artists as well. there has to be someway to work something out with artists to give them the money directly and circumvent the record labels.
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May 7, 2004, 08:54 AM
 
Great. Sure its only $.26 more but dammit none of that is going to the artist.
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May 7, 2004, 08:56 AM
 
They are destroying themselves.

You would think that they would be all over download music.

- The quality is lower then a CD
- You can change restrictions over time (as Apple did with their DRM)
- 10X the impulse buys
- People who PAY for music are much less likely to give it away

The music industry needs to take a software approach to their product.
     
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May 7, 2004, 09:01 AM
 
Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
They are destroying themselves.

You would think that they would be all over download music.

- The quality is lower then a CD
- You can change restrictions over time (as Apple did with their DRM)
- 10X the impulse buys
- People who PAY for music are much less likely to give it away

The music industry needs to take a software approach to their product.
That'll never happen because the industry is run by people NOT as visionary as Jobs. I mean hell if they started something like iTMS back when napster started I think there might have been a lot less stealing of music. Most people are honest but things like these will end up making crooks of even the honest people.
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May 7, 2004, 09:04 AM
 
I can't say that I'll stop buying CD's, especially because a lot of what I buy is NOT from the major labels. Especially a band like the Gathering who created their own label and bought their music back from the other label. I support them 100%. But I'll definitely reconsider any purchase that would be from a major label.
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May 7, 2004, 09:11 AM
 
Just wait until they want $2 per song! I hope this doesn't hurt Apple though...
     
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May 7, 2004, 09:12 AM
 
Originally posted by typoon:
That'll never happen because the industry is run by people NOT as visionary as Jobs. I mean hell if they started something like iTMS back when napster started I think there might have been a lot less stealing of music. Most people are honest but things like these will end up making crooks of even the honest people.
I think the music industry thought that music piracy would simply go away.
     
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May 7, 2004, 09:14 AM
 
Originally posted by djohnson:
Just wait until they want $2 per song! I hope this doesn't hurt Apple though...
I think they are trying to force users to buy the whole album.

Again, the Music Industry is trying to perpetuate the "One Hit Wonders"

They feed on bands that have been around for 4/5 years, have a collection of 30-40 songs... they pick the best 12, make a CD... pump them and dump them...
     
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May 7, 2004, 09:18 AM
 
Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
I think the music industry thought that music piracy would simply go away.
Unfortunately it will never go away. There will always be people who steal music because they feel it is there right or something. I think Piracy largely would have gone away if they had done something like iTMS during Napster times. If they made it compelling for people to BUY music instead of stealing it then it might have helped. Like i said before, these strong arm tactics will only make honest people into crooks too.
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May 7, 2004, 09:26 AM
 
Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
I think they are trying to force users to buy the whole album.

Again, the Music Industry is trying to perpetuate the "One Hit Wonders"

They feed on bands that have been around for 4/5 years, have a collection of 30-40 songs... they pick the best 12, make a CD... pump them and dump them...
Yeah, the whole buy our entire album thing...

Oh and most artists make their money doing tours.
     
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May 7, 2004, 11:08 AM
 
I wonder exactly how many some song is. If it's something like new releases, then the price point backs down to $0.99, I'm fine with that.
     
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May 7, 2004, 11:57 AM
 
That is truly sad... greed is such an ugly thing.
     
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May 7, 2004, 12:27 PM
 
Originally posted by xi_hyperon:
That is truly sad... greed is such an ugly thing.
I think it goes beyond Greed. These people who run these labels obviously are not visionaries. They also don't seem too smart, maybe the money's gotten to their heads. I would think they would be happy to embrace online music stores like iTMS because it is helping them in the fight against Music piracy. If they make it compelling and easy like Apple has, then people might be more inclined NOT to steal the music. It's like this whole issue in Europe, they are giving Apple a hard time with liscensing. If they didn't make it so difficult the consumer wouldn't be the ones stepped on again as well as not having honest people stealing music.
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May 7, 2004, 01:33 PM
 
Seems to me that they are going to keep raising prices till people stop buying. Then drop it down a few cents and say, "look it's on sale." The RIAA just wants to know how much money they can milk out of consumers.

"Ok, they bought for 99 cents, lets see if they will buy for $2.50"

It's not the 26 cents that is going to stop people from buying music, it's the fear of the price getting jacked up whenever some greedy bastard feels like it.
     
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May 7, 2004, 02:28 PM
 
If this happens, **** the music industry. If they've proven they do not wish to be honest why should we?
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May 7, 2004, 02:40 PM
 
Originally posted by Link:
If this happens, **** the music industry. If they've proven they do not wish to be honest why should we?
Agreed. Though I would hope that someone or a group will start a grassroots effort against these labels.
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May 7, 2004, 02:47 PM
 
I would also like to say...

Pirating music didn't start with Napster.

It started with cassette tapes... What else were those 20 cassette tape bundles for?
     
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May 7, 2004, 03:17 PM
 
Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:

It started with cassette tapes... What else were those 20 cassette tape bundles for?
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May 7, 2004, 03:20 PM
 
Originally posted by mitchell_pgh:
I would also like to say...

Pirating music didn't start with Napster.

It started with cassette tapes... What else were those 20 cassette tape bundles for?
But it did start on a larger scale with Napster.
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May 7, 2004, 03:52 PM
 
Did it really? I doubt it.

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May 7, 2004, 04:14 PM
 
Everyone needs to calm down and take a deep breath. That article from the Register is 100% BS. Apple today flat out denied the rumors of a price increase and said that songs will remain at 99 cents.:
"These rumors aren't true," said Apple spokeswoman Natalie Sequeira. "We have multiyear agreements with the labels and our prices remain 99 cents a track."
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