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He said he'd leave after his interim posting expired, which is the least believable part of the story.
     
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Pruitt's successor at the EPA? Oscar The Grouch.
I have plenty of more important things to do, if only I could bring myself to do them....
     
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Seems more like a job for Mr. Snuffleupagus.

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Jul 4, 2018, 11:01 AM
 
The most-investigated Cabinet member has the most to gain. By being placed in charge of most of his own investigations.

How do you escape Justice? There's a few ways, but this method is more comfortable than fleeing the country. Plus a pay raise I think.
     
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****ing finally
     
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Down. Goe...

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Jul 5, 2018, 03:57 PM
 
Wonder what did it.

No seriously, there were so many reasons to choose from.
     
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Jul 5, 2018, 04:14 PM
 
vaguebookers, the lot of you. <checks news>

ah, excellent.

What do we think of Wheeler? Will he continue the "bright" agenda that Pruitt was following? He's a coal guy, apparently.
     
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I don’t like foisting my biased, crap news outlets on people who have their own biased, crap news outlets.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
Wonder what did it.
No more cash left in the budget to spend on mattresses and pants?
     
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What do we think of Wheeler? Will he continue the "bright" agenda that Pruitt was following? He's a coal guy, apparently.
I mean, he's going to be about as bad (and seeing his work history worse than I'd have hoped) but at least he'll be only ****ing over via one avenue.
     
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Looks like Bill Shines wife is a huuuuge racist. Quell surprise. Guess they'll fit right in.
     
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It's like a hydra. You chop off a head and two more sprout up.
     
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https://www.mediaite.com/tv/dana-bas...friend-or-foe/
Vice President Mike Pence gave two interviews tonight in which he was confronted on why President Trump could not give a straight answer to the question of whether Vladimir Putin is a friend or foe.

Trump instead sidestepped this morning and called Putin a “competitor” instead.

CNN’s Dana Bash pressed Pence on the topic, and the veep hedged a bit, talking about how the upcoming Trump-Putin summit will be an “opportunity” for the United States.

“How is somebody,” she asked, “who your own intelligence community says was involved in meddling in American elections not a foe of America?”

Pence went back to the word “competitor” that Trump used, adding, “I don’t think we have any illusions.”
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~Trump instead sidestepped this morning and called Putin a “competitor” instead.
~...the veep hedged a bit, talking about how the upcoming Trump-Putin summit will be an “opportunity” for the United States.
~Pence went back to the word “competitor” that Trump used, adding, “I don’t think we have any illusions.”
Meeting with a "competitor" is seen as an "opportunity"?
Sounds like a merger is in the offing.
     
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I could be completely wrong here. I'm not trying to convince anyone I'm correct. I was asked to explain why I feel sorry for Spicer, and I'm trying to explain it.

If I am correct, and what Priebus and Spicer want to do is keep Trump on a leash, they're kinda forced to be scummy. If they draw a line in the sand, they get fired.
Sean Spicer has written a book detailing his time working for President Donald Trump, and described the president as "a unicorn, riding a unicorn over a rainbow."
Now that he's gone Spicer has... zero backbone, zero remorse of what he's enabled. That change your opinion of him at all?
     
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Jul 28, 2018, 08:09 PM
 
If he stays consistent with it, yes.

Right now is way too soon for him to break bad. He breaks bad now then he permanently goes down as a rat.

I’ve been working under the assumption his book is a cash grab.
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
If he stays consistent with it, yes.

Right now is way too soon for him to break bad. He breaks bad now then he permanently goes down as a rat.

I’ve been working under the assumption his book is a cash grab.
That's a given. But he's also shown no criticism of Trump up to now and has gone as far as to defend him in the book interviews so far.
     
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Because I don't know how Commerce is ****ing up the world, I'm not as outraged by this open-mouth breather as I should be.

It is interesting that he was under suit before the nom, if I read correctly.
     
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I tried closed-mouth breathing, but had to stop when I turned purple.
     
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That's a given. But he's also shown no criticism of Trump up to now and has gone as far as to defend him in the book interviews so far.
It seems to me like he’s trying to walk a line.

Like, say, the unicorn comment. Spicer says what makes him a unicorn is he can repeatedly do things which would end any other politician’s career.

There’s a little bit of backspin on that lob, no?
     
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Originally Posted by subego View Post
It seems to me like he’s trying to walk a line.

Like, say, the unicorn comment. Spicer says what makes him a unicorn is he can repeatedly do things which would end any other politician’s career.

There’s a little bit of backspin on that lob, no?
'Little bit'? I can agree to that description.
     
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Originally Posted by The Final Dakar View Post
he's also shown no criticism of Trump up to now
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'Little bit'? I can agree to that description.
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That's not a criticism. That's a possible back-handed compliment.
     
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At first glance you wonder how they can live together until you realize neither of them has any convictions one way or another. It's all just a game. Similar to James Carville and Mary Matalin.
     
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Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke this time. He's found a way to save money. By zeroing out climate research, etc. By giving a high-paid job to his high school football buddy.
At the beginning of 2018, interior secretary Ryan Zinke instated a new requirement that scientific funding above $50,000 must undergo an additional review to ensure expenditures “better align with the administration’s priorities”.
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Steve Howke, one of Zinke’s high-school football teammates, oversees this review. Howke’s highest degree is a bachelor’s in business administration. Until Zinke appointed him {...} Howke had spent his entire career working in credit unions.
     
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It really galls me how easy it is to hire people who have no related experience to oversee government.
     
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Someone should point out to Trump that Zinke is worth less than a million. As a poor person, he shouldn't be in charge of anything.
     
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https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/fede...ry?id=57998606
A federal judge has ordered U.S. Secretary of Commerce Wilbur Ross be deposed over a decision to reinstate a question regarding citizenship status to the upcoming 2020 census, court documents show.
Ross began considering whether to reinstate the question shortly after he was appointment in February 2017, "well before" the Department of Justice made a formal request to do so on Dec. 12, according to the order, which cited earlier submissions made by Ross.

Ross manifested an "unusually strong personal interest in the matter," Furman wrote, adding that the secretary demanded to know as early as May 2017 why no action had been taken on his months-old request — seven months before the formal DOJ request was made.
He lied to congress about this.
     
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Betsy DeVos is racking-up quite the security bill. An even higher security price tag than Pruitt’s.
     
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Two years in, and I'm finally wondering. Why does Trump hire so many corrupt people for high-level positions?

It's a steady embarrassment, and often results in Trump firing them. Surely he can find flunkies who will do the hatchet jobs he wants. Without stuffing their pockets, taking expensive vacation flights on the taxpayer, etc. Just do the dirty work quietly, without being obviously crooked.

If you wanted to hire a hitman on someone, you don't hire the part-time rock star. Who gives press conferences before and after the hit, does some handy pickpockets along the way, and acquires a parking ticket during the hit.

Instead, you hire the no-drama hitman. Victim dies, er, because he fell down the steps. And relatives find a suicide note on his computer after, just in case there are any tells at the scene. No one is seen fleeing the scene, and your man has an alibi in another town.
     
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The good hitmen are the ones who whispered in his ear: You should run.
     
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Originally Posted by reader50 View Post
Two years in, and I'm finally wondering. Why does Trump hire so many corrupt people for high-level positions?

It's a steady embarrassment, and often results in Trump firing them. Surely he can find flunkies who will do the hatchet jobs he wants.
My guess is he likes them because they’re grifters just like him. They all speak the same language. Birds of a feather, y’know.
     
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Two years in, and I'm finally wondering. Why does Trump hire so many corrupt people for high-level positions?
Trump hires people he is most comfortable having around himself. He has a history of unsavory business associates, including members and associates of the mob. There is literally a book on that from the early 1990s. We should all believe Trump that he is showing who he is, and not overcomplicate things.
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It's a steady embarrassment, and often results in Trump firing them. Surely he can find flunkies who will do the hatchet jobs he wants. Without stuffing their pockets, taking expensive vacation flights on the taxpayer, etc. Just do the dirty work quietly, without being obviously crooked.
That's something I find it hard to understand. Take Scott Pruitt, who has already resigned a while ago. Was he the only Republican who wanted to cut regulations or could the Trump administration have found someone without all these extraordinary and extracurricular spending habits?
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No one had the resume of disdain for the EPA that Pruitt did.
     
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No one else paid more.
     
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What do you yell when you fill all the spots on the BINGO card? I think we're close.

https://www.principallyuncertain.com...cabinet-bingo/
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John Kelly OUT. Who will be America’s Next Top Adult In The Room? Who’s gonna keep the White House running so smoothly? Who will be the next to go?!
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what do you yell when you fill all the spots on the bingo card? I think we're close.
It’s great again!
     
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Most Americans have less than $1000 saved. As monthly spending is usually above that, they live paycheck-to-paycheck. Wages have not kept up with inflation. Mr Ross (net worth $700M) could miss paychecks all his life and not suffer.

I'd go to a foodbank rather than go into debt. Even if backpay is guaranteed (and loan interest rate is zero), you still put your assets on the line. Dependent on Trump keeping his word on the backpay. If he later denies saying that, your home or car could vanish.

According to fact checkers, Trump averages about 10 false or misleading statements per day since taking office. And has occasionally gone above 100 in a day. If I were a laid-off federal worker with a family, how could I go into debt, dependent on Trump keeping his word? He's publicly talked about a shutdown lasting years. Even without interest, that loan could pass $30K. Enough to take the car, and endanger the house. And what if we rent?
     
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Down goes Nielsen.
Secret Service director Randolph Alles has been told to hit the highway, as well.
     
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Down goes Acosta.
     
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Down goes Bolton.
Or, maybe Bolton took himself out? The twitter war hasn’t resolved itself as yet.
     
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Wilbur Ross (Secretary of Commerce) may be in trouble too.
The US secretary of commerce, Wilbur Ross, is facing calls for his resignation after it was reported that he had threatened to fire senior staff at a federal agency unless they sided publicly with Donald Trump in the rumbling dispute dubbed “Sharpiegate”.

The New York Times, citing three anonymous officials, reported that Ross had called Neil Jacobs, the acting administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (Noaa), last Friday and warned that heads would roll unless the agency’s disagreement with the US president over the path of Hurricane Dorian was smoothed over.
This is about "sharpiegate", where someone (suspected to be Trump) altered a weather forecast map to show Alabama was threatened by Dorian. To avoid potential panic during an emergency, the Birmingham (Alabama) office of NOAA clarified that Alabama was not in danger.

It seems that to avoid embarrassing Trump, even during emergencies, weather scientists are supposed to support false statements about who's in danger.
     
 
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