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OS X Leopard-Unable to Archive & Install-Hard Drive Error
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Nov 28, 2009, 06:10 AM
 
I am trying to do an archive and Install of OS X Leopard on a MBP but the installer won't allow me to do this.
I have tried the install by holding down the Option Key at bootup with the Leopard DVD in the drive. I follow all the options and then try to do an Archive and Install but when it gets to the screen with the Hard Drive icon it shows the Hard Drive icon with the Exclamation point in the yellow color. If I select options it tells me I have to erase the hard drive and do a fresh install of OS X.
I have also tried the install by booting into OS X and then selecting the OS X DVD icon and going through the same steps.
I have used Disk Utility and done both a verify and verify permissions but no errors at all are found. One odd issue is when I hold down the Option key at bootup it actually lists my internal hard drive twice. It appears everything is fine. Disk Utility finds now errors, shows it has the GUID partition table, and is formatted with OS X Journaled.

What started all of this is a couple weeks ago I started having Wi-Fi issues. Anywhere I connect to Wi-Fi it connects with the signal but I don't have internet. I'm not able to use Firefox, Safari, or Apple Mail. I posted earlier about this but was unable to fix this problem so eventually went to the Apple Genius Bar. They thought it was a simple issue and tried a couple procedures to renew IP or something like that and restoring some files. After none of that worked the guy then said it's something deeper in the OS and a Archive & Install is the best way to solve it.
When he tried this though it didn't work. He did a Verify in Disk Utility and found some hard drive errors so corrected them. Once this was done he did another Archive & Install and ran into the same problems I encountered.

Of course I'm still having this issue. His suggestion was to do the erase and said to first plug in my Time Machine Hard Drive, Do a Backup now, do the erase on the Hard Drive and reinstall Leopard, then he said Time Machine should prompt me to restore or something like that and will copy over all my stuff, documents, itunes music, dock settings, desktop, etc. Basically everything to put my computer back to where it was before. Now I do have a SuperDuper backup but since this is a mirror of the internal hard drive he said it would likely copy the problem back to my internal hard drive.

Is there a way to possibly do an archive & install? I prefer to go this route but don't know why it won't let me do it. If not, would the above suggested option with Time Machine solve this problem and would I lose any settings or data?

Another option I may try is I have Leopard on the Machine but have bought Snow Leopard. I haven't done the upgrade because one program I have, PGP, is not Snow Loepard compatible until the next version comes out. Since I haven't used PGP yet if necessary I am willing to uninstall it and install Snow Leopard but i'm not sure if the Snow Leopard upgrade will work and solve the Wi-Fi issue.

Thank you for your help.
     
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Nov 28, 2009, 06:59 AM
 
If you have another HDD you can use Disk Utility > Restore to clone your drive to the other drive. Then do a fresh install and once the installer asks if you want to migrate form another Mac, say yes, attach the other drive, and select it. That should allow you to get back all your apps, media, documents, and settings.
     
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Nov 30, 2009, 04:48 AM
 
Thanks for the advice. If there is an issue with my OS though would that copy that back to my computer? if I read correctly from what you say it only copies the settings, data, etc, correct? I want to make sure I'm not going to lose anything but also that it won't do a complete mirror and copy the problem back to my computer.
     
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Nov 30, 2009, 04:52 AM
 
Migration Assistant doesn't copy over system stuff. So if part of your system was busted, and you install a fresh OS X and use MA you don't run the risk of copying back the broken parts.

Also, MA allows you to chose what exactly gets copied back. You can chose between network settings, apps, user accounts, settings, etc.
     
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Nov 30, 2009, 11:13 PM
 
It sounds like MA would be a great option. I use many programs such as the iLife suite, iWork suite, office, soho notes, omnifocus, and many other mac programs.
I understand a program like MA would likely copy over my basic mac programs such as ilife, iwork, etc. and the documents folder, music, photos, etc. but does it work with 3rd party mac programs and their data?
Would a Time Machine backup be a better option in a case like this or would MA copy what I need? Would even Time Machine copy all these 3rd party programs, data, and settings?
     
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Dec 1, 2009, 05:03 AM
 
MA will also copy over third-party apps. If you tell it to copy apps it will copy everything in /Applications. The exception are Apple apps in newer versions on the Mac MA is migrating to.

MA actually also works with TM. You can have MA migrate from a specific TM backup version to a Mac, just attach the TM disk when you launch MA. When MA asks you what the souce is, you will be able to chose the TM backup version. In that sense MA and TM complement each other. Neither is a replacement for the other. In addition to TM backups, you can consider backing up with a tool like rsync or cloning to another parittion every once in a while with Disk Utility. Note that having more than one backup strategy is always a good thing.
     
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Dec 2, 2009, 04:57 AM
 
Thank you with the help. I have used SuperDuper to clone my hard drive to a external hard drive. I also have a TM backup. it seems my TM backup will be the best option in this case. Once again thank you for the help.
     
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Dec 2, 2009, 05:23 AM
 
One word of caution. You shouldn't rely on SD or CCC. Both have caused a lot of problem for many people in the past. Including several on this board. Apple has built cloning right into OS X. You don't need a third-party tool. Especially not if it's buggy.

Instead, I suggest you use Disk Utility > Restore (select 'erase destination'). You'll find it in your Utilities folder or in the Utilities menu when you boot from the install DVD.
     
   
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